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Posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:37:38
Br J Psychiatry. 1980 Apr;136:354-8.
A beta adrenergic stimulant (salbutamol) versus clomipramine in depression: a controlled study.
Lecrubier Y, Puech AJ, Jouvent R, Simon P, Widlocher D.
A controlled study comparing salbutamol (6 mg/day) to clomipramine (150 mg/day), both given by intravenous infusion, was performed on depressed inpatients (10 per group). The symptomatology was evaluated by two blind observers at days 0, 5, and 15 using the Hamilton Rating Scale. Both treatments were effective on the overall symptomatology but the onset of action of salbutamol was more rapid.
Has anyone on babble used salbutamol for depression?
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:40:54
In reply to Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression?, posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:37:38
Posted by linkadge on December 15, 2004, at 11:31:26
In reply to Salbutamol is called albuterol in some countries. (nm), posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:40:54
Its used for asthma is it not ???
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on December 15, 2004, at 11:39:14
In reply to Re: Salbutamol is called albuterol in some countries., posted by linkadge on December 15, 2004, at 11:31:26
Yes, it's a very popular bronchodilator.
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on December 15, 2004, at 11:40:36
In reply to Re: Salbutamol is called albuterol in some countries., posted by linkadge on December 15, 2004, at 11:31:26
... It's usually given by inhalation but can also be given orally. It's a beta-2 agonist.
Ed.
Posted by linkadge on December 15, 2004, at 14:24:28
In reply to Re: Salbutamol, posted by ed_uk on December 15, 2004, at 11:40:36
My brother used this for asthma. I don't know if it would've been a clinical dose or not. He wasn't depressed however.
Linkadge
Posted by jerrympls on December 15, 2004, at 22:26:17
In reply to Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression?, posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:37:38
> Br J Psychiatry. 1980 Apr;136:354-8.
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> A beta adrenergic stimulant (salbutamol) versus clomipramine in depression: a controlled study.
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> Lecrubier Y, Puech AJ, Jouvent R, Simon P, Widlocher D.
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> A controlled study comparing salbutamol (6 mg/day) to clomipramine (150 mg/day), both given by intravenous infusion, was performed on depressed inpatients (10 per group). The symptomatology was evaluated by two blind observers at days 0, 5, and 15 using the Hamilton Rating Scale. Both treatments were effective on the overall symptomatology but the onset of action of salbutamol was more rapid.
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> Has anyone on babble used salbutamol for depression?
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> Ed.
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>I've been on this med for more than 15 years for asthma. Never helped my depression.
Jerry
Posted by ed_uk on December 16, 2004, at 6:28:20
In reply to Re: Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression? » ed_uk, posted by jerrympls on December 15, 2004, at 22:26:17
Hi Jerry,
Do you take it by mouth?
Ed.
Posted by jerrympls on December 16, 2004, at 8:06:38
In reply to Re: Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression? » jerrympls, posted by ed_uk on December 16, 2004, at 6:28:20
> Hi Jerry,
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> Do you take it by mouth?
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> Ed.Yes - it's an inhaler.
Posted by ed_uk on December 16, 2004, at 15:18:30
In reply to Re: Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression? » ed_uk, posted by jerrympls on December 16, 2004, at 8:06:38
Hi Jerry,
'By mouth' means as tablets, capsules or syrup. The inhaler would not help depression.
Regards,
Ed.
Posted by jerrympls on December 16, 2004, at 18:37:11
In reply to Re: Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression? » jerrympls, posted by ed_uk on December 16, 2004, at 15:18:30
> Hi Jerry,
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> 'By mouth' means as tablets, capsules or syrup. The inhaler would not help depression.
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> Regards,
> Ed.Oh - my prescription says to inhale by mouth so I assumed....I guess wrong. Sorry.
Posted by djmmm on December 17, 2004, at 21:35:09
In reply to Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression?, posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:37:38
I used a Ventolin inhaler, along with Ventolin syrup for 10 years. I used the inhaler several times a day...until I tried Montelukast (cingulair), and I never needed the ventolin again... I never noticed any positive effects on my mood...however, my psychiatrist insists that Ventolin was a major contributer to my initial diagnosis of Panic disorder, then social anxiety...since beta-blockers give me significant relief of my anxiety problems
Posted by jerrympls on December 17, 2004, at 23:16:46
In reply to Re: Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression?, posted by djmmm on December 17, 2004, at 21:35:09
> I used a Ventolin inhaler, along with Ventolin syrup for 10 years. I used the inhaler several times a day...until I tried Montelukast (cingulair), and I never needed the ventolin again... I never noticed any positive effects on my mood...however, my psychiatrist insists that Ventolin was a major contributer to my initial diagnosis of Panic disorder, then social anxiety...since beta-blockers give me significant relief of my anxiety problems
Interesting. I've thought of asking my pdoc for a beta-blocker - but once I was on Inderal (propanderal?) and it serverly effected my asthma and my inhalers where rendered useless. Is there a beta-blocker that doesn't effect respiration so much?
Jerry
Posted by ghost on December 18, 2004, at 9:57:27
In reply to Salbutamol (Ventolin) for depression?, posted by ed_uk on December 14, 2004, at 11:37:38
how weird.
first, i wouldnt think the route should matter-- inhaled vs. ingested. in fact, i'd think inhaled would be better since it enters the blood stream faster.
anyhow. ive taken albuterol for about 24 years now, give or take), and many of those were by pill form. neither affected my depression. but i'm more bipolar, so maybe that has something to do with it.
i think someone else mentioned their depression not be affected by it.
it's an interesting study. i wonder why they'd think it would work like that.
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