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Posted by woolav on August 22, 2004, at 7:56:22
Chemist, I cant find the post you replied to my earlier question from again..(see what I mean by memory loss) anyway, did you say you were taking dexerdrine with xanax? Because I read that it is very addictive and can abused. Also, you dont take any kind of SSRI's do you?
S
Posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 10:32:47
In reply to chemist--dexerdrine??, posted by woolav on August 22, 2004, at 7:56:22
> Chemist, I cant find the post you replied to my earlier question from again..(see what I mean by memory loss) anyway, did you say you were taking dexerdrine with xanax? Because I read that it is very addictive and can abused. Also, you dont take any kind of SSRI's do you?
> Shello there, chemist here....i take dexedrine, xanax, and yes, an SSRI - luvox. anything can be abused, be it an SSRI, table salt, or my recently-deceased cell phone. if one - in consult with their doctor, of course - is prudent in watching for signs of dose escalation/drug-seeking behaviour, then the unseemly events can be diminished and treatment can be successful. everyone has their own opinions/stories, of course, but keep in mind that many of us have continual - and will have, for life - treatment with these and other medications. more commonly-accepted and practiced options for coping with stress/depression/etc. - such as emotionally and/or physically abusing family members, excessive use of alcohol, and smoking cigarettes - are less attractive, in my opinion, than a good diet, some exercise, therapy, and even medication. all the best, chemist
Posted by alesta on August 22, 2004, at 12:49:09
In reply to Re: chemist--dexerdrine?? » woolav, posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 10:32:47
hi, chemist,:)
i really appreciate the response you gave sandy. it really was eye-opening for me (i don't derive major revelations from others very often, in fact *very* rarely). i know someone with an addiction that i have been trying fruitlessly to help, and although i had suggested that he see a psychiatrist and get meds a long while ago, i have since then forgotten the importance of this approach (medication and maybe counseling). i am going to bring this approach up to him again (he has truly hit rock bottom). i just wanted to let you know that and thank you for touching on this in your post. :)take care and god bless,
amy :)
Posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 12:53:32
In reply to Re: chemist--dexerdrine??, posted by alesta on August 22, 2004, at 12:49:09
hello amy......i do hope your friend comes out from under, as it were...therapy/meds are not the answer to all of life's problems, but if both are properly and professionally administered, certainly are better options than going it alone in many regards. i do hope the requisite care is found....all the best, chemist
> hi, chemist,:)
> i really appreciate the response you gave sandy. it really was eye-opening for me (i don't derive major revelations from others very often, in fact *very* rarely). i know someone with an addiction that i have been trying fruitlessly to help, and although i had suggested that he see a psychiatrist and get meds a long while ago, i have since then forgotten the importance of this approach (medication and maybe counseling). i am going to bring this approach up to him again (he has truly hit rock bottom). i just wanted to let you know that and thank you for touching on this in your post. :)
>
> take care and god bless,
> amy :)
Posted by woolav on August 22, 2004, at 18:04:44
In reply to Re: chemist--dexerdrine?? » alesta, posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 12:53:32
I did some research on luvox and it said it was mainly used for OCD, but some sites said for Panic Disorder too. (which is me) Did you ever take prozac? Also, I read that you shouldnt take luvox with lithium...would lamictal be bad with luvox then too?
Thanks
Sandy
Posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 19:04:02
In reply to Re: chemist--1 more thing..., posted by woolav on August 22, 2004, at 18:04:44
hello there, chemist here...luvox is approved by the F.D.A. for treatment of OCD and *not* depression. however, it is a true SSRI and is prescribed off-label as an AD, also for panic and anxiety, much like lamictal (until receiving approval as a mood stabilizer) is an anti-convulsant first, and a mood stabilizer second. drugs such as neurontin, gabitril, and topamax are *not* approved for use as mood stabilizers - nor are any of the antypical/typical anti-psychotics - yet plenty of people take them as monotherapy or adjunctive therapy for mood disorders. luvox is metabolised by a number of enzymes in your liver, and hence there are interactions with drugs that are metabolised by the same enzymes. in the case of lithium, which is eliminated renally, the danger lies in imbalance of sodium (hyponatremia) because luvox can lead to increased sodium clearence, and the hydrated lithium ions are similar in size and identical in charge (thus similar charge densities) to hydrated sodium ions, and a person could find themselves hypo- or hyperlithic, either way, out of the therapeutic window. additionally, kidney damage can result. lamictal is metabolized by your liver and kidneys, and inteacts unfavorably with drugs such as tegretol and depakote, and of course there is the risk of SJS. lamictal and fluvoxamine are not highlighted in terms of concommitant use being singled out - almost every other drug is, though - so you should certainly consult with your doctor before coupling luvox with either drug you mention. all that said, many people take luvox and drugs that are known to have levels increased/decreased and go on to lead happy, healthy lives, free of medical complications. an example is luvox + xanax + dexedrine (yours truly), and everything appears to be working as advertised. all the best, chemist
> I did some research on luvox and it said it was mainly used for OCD, but some sites said for Panic Disorder too. (which is me) Did you ever take prozac? Also, I read that you shouldnt take luvox with lithium...would lamictal be bad with luvox then too?
> Thanks
> Sandy
Posted by paulbwell on August 22, 2004, at 23:53:26
In reply to Re: chemist--1 more thing... » woolav, posted by chemist on August 22, 2004, at 19:04:02
Hi
I take Ritalin 20mgs 3x for ADD. this is working less well after 4 months. Would Dextroamphetamine be a better option for me? and what are the differences?Thanks
Posted by chemist on August 23, 2004, at 6:34:43
In reply to Re: CHEMIST-YOUR EXPERT ADVICE PLEASE, posted by paulbwell on August 22, 2004, at 23:53:26
> Hi
> I take Ritalin 20mgs 3x for ADD. this is working less well after 4 months. Would Dextroamphetamine be a better option for me? and what are the differences?
>
> Thankshello there, chemist here...i am far from an expert, and if methylphenidate is working for you, stick with it. however, 60 mg/day is pushing the upper limit, and you report that it is not working as well. my first suggestion for you would be to ask your doctor to switch you over to Focalin, the more active (and enantiomerically pure) dexmethylphenidate (ritalin is a racemate of methylphenidate stereomers). i mention this for ease of crossover, although switching to an amphetamine such as adderall or dexedrine would not be an uncomfortable alternative. i have been prescribed dexedrine - and perhaps for the wrong reason(s) yet it does add to quality of life, thus it will be on-board until further notice by me/my psychiatrist - at the 30 mg/day (divided doses) range for almost 2 years now. i almost invariably err on the 15 to 25 mg/day side, and have had little occasion to raise the dose, and more occasion to lower it. i am able to use the crude method of adding some caffeine to my diet via a couple of cups of coffee or tea in times where i feel that extra stimulation is warranted. this is not in keeping with the back-and-forth about stimulant tolerence/DXM/etc. on other threads on this board, just my personal experience. i did have a short run with ritalin years ago, and it was in the low-dose regime, and not for long, as for whatever reason it was of little utility for me. the dexedrine has been quite a helpful addition, and i have managed to keep it under control along with monitoring from my psychiatrist and therapist (which has been little, in that i invariably have leftovers at the end of each month) and a good splash of coffee/tea when needed. do keep us apprised, and do mention Focalin as a first-line option....all the best, chemist
Posted by TheOutsider on August 24, 2004, at 14:14:19
In reply to Re: CHEMIST-YOUR EXPERT ADVICE PLEASE, posted by paulbwell on August 22, 2004, at 23:53:26
Just my experience.
Every doctor I spoke to (apart from the nice doctor who prescribed it) said "dexedrines adictive, dexedrines addictive!".
I went from 30mg to nothing without tapering and was fine, thats how addictive it was for me.
Y.M.M.V
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