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Posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 12:30:53
Wondering what people think of Stablon. I'm continuing with Lexapro, but I see the same SEs that I've seen with so many other meds. I'm going to give it more time, but would like to be able to propose an alternative this time to my doc rather than just take whatever he hands me next.
SSRIs do not have very positive benefits for me, and the downside in terms of SEs is rather pronounced. I'm curious as to whether Stablon will have a different effect. I'd love to hear from folks who have suffered SEs on SSRIs, but not on Stablon (or maybe less on Stablon). Also, does Stablon have different SEs that I should be aware of?
Posted by snapper on March 23, 2004, at 18:45:58
In reply to Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 12:30:53
HI Greywolf, no I have never personally taken Stablon (tianeptine). However I have this understanding: It is a serotonin accelerator versus an uptake inhibitor. I do know that it is a French anti-depressant.It's action is the reverse of what an ssri might be. I would post a link to a website that tells you plenty about this drug but Because of Dr. Bob's Rules re: meds that are not approved here in the US I will not suggest the link. What I could recomend is that If you don't live in the US and are interested in this med and it's mode of anti-depressant properties, you can simply do a search for Stablon or (tianeptine) and you shouldget plenty of info on this drug!
Good Luck
Snapper
Posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 19:28:53
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by snapper on March 23, 2004, at 18:45:58
Snapper:
Thanks for responding. I've done a bit of research on Stablon, but haven't found any first hand accounts of how effective it is. I've seen a few posts here from people in the States taking it, but no real account of what it's like.
Posted by PsychoSage on March 23, 2004, at 21:06:21
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by snapper on March 23, 2004, at 18:45:58
> HI Greywolf, no I have never personally taken Stablon (tianeptine). However I have this understanding: It is a serotonin accelerator versus an uptake inhibitor. I do know that it is a French anti-depressant.It's action is the reverse of what an ssri might be. I would post a link to a website that tells you plenty about this drug but Because of Dr. Bob's Rules re: meds that are not approved here in the US I will not suggest the link. What I could recomend is that If you don't live in the US and are interested in this med and it's mode of anti-depressant properties, you can simply do a search for Stablon or (tianeptine) and you shouldget plenty of info on this drug!
> Good Luck
> SnapperI don't think Dr. Bob prohibits discussion of meds not available in the United States at all. He once moved my thread about another foreign med from a different part of the site to this part
with no warning to not make such a thread.He does not want this to be a drugbuyers club network for meds.
I think he is more against the dubious nature of procuring drugs from overseas and the lack of supervision many people would have while using them. Also, some psych meds are controlled substances that are not allowed to be shipped through the mail from other countries.
I think you can discuss meds and their effects but don't tell or ask someone where to buy something from an unregulated overseas pharmacy.
Posted by PsychoSage on March 23, 2004, at 21:08:22
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon? » snapper, posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 19:28:53
> Snapper:
>
> Thanks for responding. I've done a bit of research on Stablon, but haven't found any first hand accounts of how effective it is. I've seen a few posts here from people in the States taking it, but no real account of what it's like.Oh, sorry for not having any experience with the drug. I wanted to add to my post that I am not sure what Dr. Bob thinks, and I have not really scrutinized the board policy fully.
Posted by snapper on March 24, 2004, at 0:38:34
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by PsychoSage on March 23, 2004, at 21:08:22
hey psychosage, your point makes sense I am fairly new to posting on this board and just did'nt want to get 'repromanded' <(sp) for suggesting anything that might even have potential to being a link that is'nt allowed thanks for your clarification!!
Snapper
Posted by rod on March 24, 2004, at 5:00:49
In reply to Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 12:30:53
It had totally different side effects. But it wasnt very helpful for me. I had nearly lost my sense of taste etc. In my opinion, this drugs only work for people with too much serotonin and/or dopamine, like alcoholics have when they withdraw from alcohol. It can somehow counteract the rebound effexts seen while withdrawal. For endogenous depressed, its pretty useless in my, amd my doctors, opinion. Some studies say this drug has neuroleptic properties (but not via Dop. blockade), I think via reduced dopaminergic transmission. But no antipsychotic properties. I think if you suffer from panic attacs, it might work for you.
Roland
Posted by KXo on March 24, 2004, at 23:05:23
In reply to Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 12:30:53
I took Stablon for 1 month and 1 week. I didn't have any side effect at all! Unfortunatelly, I also didn't notice any positive effects. Maybe I had a very small decrease in my anxiety. So small that I am not sure it was the medication.
It was like if was not taking anything.
==KXo
Posted by Iansf on March 24, 2004, at 23:31:34
In reply to Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by greywolf on March 23, 2004, at 12:30:53
> Wondering what people think of Stablon. I'm continuing with Lexapro, but I see the same SEs that I've seen with so many other meds. I'm going to give it more time, but would like to be able to propose an alternative this time to my doc rather than just take whatever he hands me next.
>
I also found tianeptine to be of no benefit. I was quite disappointed.
Posted by greywolf on March 26, 2004, at 2:28:31
In reply to Is anyone taking Stablon? » greywolf, posted by Iansf on March 24, 2004, at 23:31:34
Thank you all for your responses and intelligent opinions. Unfortunately, I have given up on Lexapro. Now I'm on Wellbutrin and alcohol, so it should come as no surprise that it's 3:30 a.m. and I'm wide awake.
Take care. Stablon doesn't sound like it's for me.
Posted by Survector on March 28, 2004, at 15:12:28
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by greywolf on March 26, 2004, at 2:28:31
I have also been taking Stablon for approximately one month now, and it has only calmed me down slightly and increased total hours slept at night (and prevented hangovers the following morning if I've been drinking the night before). Aside from that, no significant antidepressant effects were notable (until I stopped taking it and then became a little aggitated). I'm quite disturbed by this because this means I'll have no choice but to not have a sex drive if I want to be happy again (I get rejected in bed when on standard antidepressants due to lack of an ability to 'get it up' adequately - and I'm only 23!!).
Posted by KXo on March 28, 2004, at 20:31:28
In reply to Re: Is anyone taking Stablon?, posted by Survector on March 28, 2004, at 15:12:28
> I have also been taking Stablon for approximately one month now, and it has only calmed me down slightly and increased total hours slept at night (and prevented hangovers the following morning if I've been drinking the night before). Aside from that, no significant antidepressant effects were notable (until I stopped taking it and then became a little aggitated). I'm quite disturbed by this because this means I'll have no choice but to not have a sex drive if I want to be happy again (I get rejected in bed when on standard antidepressants due to lack of an ability to 'get it up' adequately - and I'm only 23!!).
The same for me! I am only 25 and I think being younger make sexual dysfunction from much more hard to deal with. For example: I never had a sexual relation without these meds!!! I would like to! Besides the sexual thing, what medications make you happy?
==KXo
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