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Posted by Tracee on January 15, 2004, at 23:53:35
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Kelly on April 28, 1999, at 20:57:12
Hi, I've just finished reading through all of the posts. I was wondering if anyone was still following this thread.
I've been on Zyprexa and Zoloft for about two months now. I've been told I have agitation depression and Borderline personality disorder, as well as social phobia.Any info on side effects of zyprexa(I've already had the weight gain),would be appreciated.
Posted by Sebastian on January 16, 2004, at 11:47:23
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 15, 2004, at 23:53:35
Tired, dull personality. Good things: no anxiety.
Posted by girl1969 on January 16, 2004, at 22:42:42
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 15, 2004, at 23:53:35
I was on a fairly high dose of Zyprexa (20 mg) for approximately 2 years. Other than the weight gain, it was a great drug for me. It mellowed me out a lot, but I tend to get manic a lot so that was what I needed.
After using it for about 3 months, I began to feel some antidepressant effects as well. My doctor said that's not unusal.
If it weren't for the weight gain, I'd still take it.
Best of luck to you!
Girl
Posted by Tracee on January 17, 2004, at 4:27:02
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by girl1969 on January 16, 2004, at 22:42:42
Thanks for the info. Well I guess I know why my hubby calls me quiet now. I haven't had a panic attack since I started or had any hyperactivity (or mania) times. I'm on 15mgs per day plus 200mgs Zoloft for depression.
I can still get agitated, but not as bad or as often.Just taking it one day at a time.Otherwise I worry too much...lol
Posted by Camille Dumont on January 17, 2004, at 17:50:09
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 15, 2004, at 23:53:35
Took 5mg of it + 300mg Effexor for depression with psychotic features.
- Sleepy
- Increased appetite
- Petit-mal-like episodes
- Twitches and less coordination
- Slurred speach
- Dulled personality
- Suicidal ideation increaseIt definately wasn't for me but it might be of some help for others
Posted by Tracee on January 17, 2004, at 19:15:41
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Camille Dumont on January 17, 2004, at 17:50:09
> Took 5mg of it + 300mg Effexor for depression with psychotic features.
>
> - Sleepy
> - Increased appetite
> - Petit-mal-like episodes
> - Twitches and less coordination
> - Slurred speach
> - Dulled personality
> - Suicidal ideation increase
>
> It definately wasn't for me but it might be of some help for othersI was originally on effexor and experienced the twitching, suicidal ideation and slurred speech while on that medication. It helped with my depression for a couple of months and I had no panic attacks. However, it wasn't for me.
So far, I'm doing okay on the Zoloft and Zyprexa, but only time will tell.
Posted by AreMedsGood on January 18, 2004, at 10:17:23
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 17, 2004, at 4:27:02
My doctor prescribed my Zyprexa about two years ago when I started Effexor 150mg. All I did was say when we met that sometimes I get stressed out or feel uptight and he automatically said I should take Zyrpexak, but then I found out that Zyprexa is mainly for people who have a serious mental condition. Whenever I take Zyrexa, which was only about 3 times, I took it at bed and it knocked me out like a cold piece of meat. When I woke up I felt really tired and sluggish.
Posted by Camille Dumont on January 18, 2004, at 10:38:22
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by AreMedsGood on January 18, 2004, at 10:17:23
I can relate ... when I was having the seizure-like episodes I freaked. I couldn't see my regular GP so I phone a GP friend and she totally freaked when she learned that he had given me 5mg to start with. She says she only uses it for either people with schizophrenia or old people who are highly delirious ... and then, she only starts at 1.25mg.
So I put some pressure at the medical clinic and I finally got a copy of my psychiatric evaluation and found out the Pdoc did suggest an antipsychotic. However, she mentions Seroquel ... NOT Zyprexa. From what I understand Seroquel is one of the least potent one whereas Zyprexa is a super potent one.
When I was trying Zyprexa, it felt as if I had a giant vice constricting my head ... I could definately see how it would keep you from having psychotic episodes ... however, when you're not, it also seems to really slow down your mind altogether. I felt as though I had lost about half of my IQ. Even typing on a computer was nearly impossible. I usually type at like 50 words per minute and then it was impossible ... it was as if my thoughts were ok but my body would not obey me anymore. My fingers would type the wrong letters and would forget many of them ....
Posted by micro on January 18, 2004, at 22:56:39
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 17, 2004, at 4:27:02
> Thanks for the info. Well I guess I know why my hubby calls me quiet now. I haven't had a panic attack since I started or had any hyperactivity (or mania) times. I'm on 15mgs per day plus 200mgs Zoloft for depression.
> I can still get agitated, but not as bad or as often.Just taking it one day at a time.Otherwise I worry too much...lolTracy, Do you have a confirmed case of panic disorder, depresson,or bipolar disorder and is this combo better than your previous therapy. Thanks Micro.
Posted by micro on January 18, 2004, at 23:14:59
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Camille Dumont on January 17, 2004, at 17:50:09
> Took 5mg of it + 300mg Effexor for depression with psychotic features.
>
> - Sleepy
> - Increased appetite
> - Petit-mal-like episodes
> - Twitches and less coordination
> - Slurred speach
> - Dulled personality
> - Suicidal ideation increase
>
> It definately wasn't for me but it might be of some help for othersCamille, sometimes medicines do not work properly if the diagnosis is not correct. If you are quite confident in your diagnosis, something will help you! Keep trying and try different doses. Also, if you are not in any urgency start out slow and titrate up very gradually. This helps to allow a slower rise in your blood levels [of a med] which seems to lesson the blow of the side effects or at least make them much more tolerable. Some people are required to use a pill cutter and actually do fine on doses lower than manufacturer rcommended, but then again, everyone's metabolism is different or one drug and one dose would work for eveyone. sincerly Micro.
Posted by micro on January 18, 2004, at 23:43:15
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by AreMedsGood on January 18, 2004, at 10:17:23
> My doctor prescribed my Zyprexa about two years ago when I started Effexor 150mg. All I did was say when we met that sometimes I get stressed out or feel uptight and he automatically said I should take Zyrpexak, but then I found out that Zyprexa is mainly for people who have a serious mental condition. Whenever I take Zyrexa, which was only about 3 times, I took it at bed and it knocked me out like a cold piece of meat. When I woke up I felt really tired and sluggish.
Dear Tracee, Their is only one thing to say about your situation that was an interestingly quick decision. However, I cannot prejudge your therapist as he knows you and I do not. Also, Many medications are used for off label purposes meaning the FDA has approved them for a specific condition, however that does not mean alternative uses don't exist and do indeed work. Bottom line, make sure that you trust your doctor and secondly, alternative uses for medications are commonly reported in medical journals. Ask your therapist to provide you with this info. Example-klonopin is FDA approved and indicated for use as an anticonvulsant, however it has been found to be helpful in bipolar disease and advocated as an alternative to maoi's for social phobia or anxiety which appears to be much more common and debilitating than was once thought. Scholarly pdocs or those with advanced skills, training or degrees will or should be able to handle more difficult cases as well as have a very good understanding of the medications actions positive and negative ,expected vs. unexpected, and deal with them appropriately. Hope this helps! Have great day! Micro
Posted by Tracee on January 19, 2004, at 5:35:29
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 18, 2004, at 22:56:39
Micro, I have confirmed social phobia, borderline personality disorder and agitated depression.So the psych. team tell me, anyway.
Posted by micro on January 19, 2004, at 8:32:10
In reply to Re: zyprexa » micro, posted by Tracee on January 19, 2004, at 5:35:29
> Micro, I have confirmed social phobia, borderline personality disorder and agitated depression.So the psych. team tell me, anyway.
Tracee, How are you feeling? Agitation is quite common with ssri's of course many people experience other side effects. Was your agitation present before the ssri, worse or better after initiating the ssri? Some docs have a very difficult time seperating the actual dx symtoms from the side effects. Treating side effects is common [particularly in the elderly]. Have a good day! Micro
Posted by Tracee on January 20, 2004, at 3:48:56
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 19, 2004, at 8:32:10
I used to be on effexor xr.The agitation appeared after I started that,I noticed. It also interacted badly with tramal, a pain medication I was on.It wasn't until my doc changed my antidepressant to avanza and I went into seretonin crisis that they found out that tramal would interact badly with all antidepressants.
I'm now using oxycontin for a chronic back problem.
As for how I'm feeling?...
Flat as a tack.
Posted by micro on January 20, 2004, at 8:01:46
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 20, 2004, at 3:48:56
> I used to be on effexor xr.The agitation appeared after I started that,I noticed. It also interacted badly with tramal, a pain medication I was on.It wasn't until my doc changed my antidepressant to avanza and I went into seretonin crisis that they found out that tramal would interact badly with all antidepressants.
> I'm now using oxycontin for a chronic back problem.
> As for how I'm feeling?...
> Flat as a tack.
>
Tracee do you mean Tramadal [ultram]? Are you taking the analgesic and the anti depressant only? Micro
Posted by Tracee on January 20, 2004, at 19:05:38
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 20, 2004, at 8:01:46
> Tracee do you mean Tramadal [ultram]? Are you taking the analgesic and the anti depressant only? Micro
>Yes, that's the one.Tramadol.
I'm on several medications at the moment.200mg of Zoloft for depression.15mg of Zyprexa is supposed to stop me from cutting myself.40mg of Oxycontin for pain management.Valium for back spasms and then there's my asthma medications.I also take an anti-inflammatory and an anti-ulcer drug.
Posted by micro on January 22, 2004, at 0:16:19
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 20, 2004, at 19:05:38
Tracee. Have you looked into the drug interactions between your anti depressant meds and your asthma meds? If you are taking any steroids or steroid inhalers and /or inhalers such as albuteral,this may also be a source of increased anxiety, depression, agitation or feeling keyed up or irritable.Inhalers can cause stimulant like side effcets while steroids may worsen depression and increase aggression. Please make sure that your meds are not contraindicated. Sincerly hoping you are getting better. Micro
Posted by Tracee on January 22, 2004, at 2:39:43
In reply to Re: zyprexa » Tracee, posted by micro on January 22, 2004, at 0:16:19
Micro, I am currently on the steroid prednisolone.I'm into my third week on it.I see my doctor in a couple of days.I'll discuss these things with her.Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. :)
Posted by micro on January 22, 2004, at 8:11:15
In reply to Re: zyprexa » micro, posted by Tracee on January 22, 2004, at 2:39:43
> Micro, I am currently on the steroid prednisolone.I'm into my third week on it.I see my doctor in a couple of days.I'll discuss these things with her.Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. :)
You are certainly welcome! Do you have Psyhcotropic med Text? Have a great Day. micro
Posted by Tracee on January 23, 2004, at 17:35:38
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 22, 2004, at 8:11:15
> You are certainly welcome! Do you have Psyhcotropic med Text? Have a great Day. micro
No, what is it?
Posted by micro on January 23, 2004, at 23:53:27
In reply to Re: zyprexa » micro, posted by Tracee on January 23, 2004, at 17:35:38
>
> > You are certainly welcome! Do you have Psyhcotropic med Text? Have a great Day. micro
>
>
> No, what is it?
>
> Tracee, Sorry about the spelling error -Psychotropic medicines.
Any of your book stores can get you texts which will help you make more informed choices as to the pros and cons of your pharmacological treatment.You may also go to any online book store and do a search using Psychopharmacology/ Psychotropics/or pubmed to read recently published info.regarding your meds and treatment plan. Again, Gorman, J -via Columbia University is a very widely respected name.Micro
Posted by Tracee on January 24, 2004, at 20:47:04
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 23, 2004, at 23:53:27
Thanks,Micro.I'll check it out.
Posted by micro on January 25, 2004, at 13:00:04
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Tracee on January 24, 2004, at 20:47:04
> Thanks,Micro.I'll check it out.
Tracee,
Glad to be of any help, although it is not 1st hand regarding your meds or therapy.
peace micro.
Posted by debbieg on February 16, 2004, at 1:15:23
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by micro on January 18, 2004, at 23:14:59
can anyone tell me how long it is before the effects -wt gain ,letargy , lack of personaility- wear off after you quit taking zyprexa. i will lose this wt won't i ?
Posted by kellyr on February 16, 2004, at 15:31:24
In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by debbieg on February 16, 2004, at 1:15:23
> can anyone tell me how long it is before the effects -wt gain ,letargy , lack of personaility- wear off after you quit taking zyprexa. i will lose this wt won't i ?
when i was on zyprexa i gain wt i was so out of it that i can't remember 2 yrs of my life and when my insurence ran out i couldn't get it anymore or my other meds. so when i went off it all together it was very painful for about 1 mos. i did lose so wt 10lbs since july. if i got of my butt i probly lose more.
now i'm on ABILIFY 15mg for about 1mos. now and it ok might have to be raised.good luck.
kellyr.
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