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Posted by ren on January 19, 2004, at 19:31:37
In reply to Just for weight loss, posted by Tierra on January 19, 2004, at 19:25:46
I would not touch this pill just for weight loss... the mood swings, metal taste in my mouth, fuzzy feeling, feet tingling, anxious energy, are just a few reasons not to take it unless you need it for a very serious reason. Oh I forgot to mention the slowing of your mental faculties.... good luck....
Posted by headachequeen on January 19, 2004, at 19:36:48
In reply to Started on Topamax last week, posted by whtdovepeace on January 16, 2004, at 16:30:51
> This is my first time here. I found this site today and read pages of posts from years ago that are so validating to how I'm feeling right now. I started talking Topamax last week. I began at 25mg and have increased by 25mg every 2 days. I'm on my way up to 200mg. I think I'm currently at 125mg. It's been a very fast titrate and I've been sick with symptoms as each day has passed. Some have gone away and others have come on......but it has been good to find you all (both past and present) and know that I am not as alone as I feel right now.
>
> I look forward to getting to know some of you, for now I think I'm going to go take a nap before my son gets home from school.
>
> blessings,
> whtdoveThis is an awfully fast increase schedule... a slower schedule usually ensures that the side effects are less drastically felt...
kat
Posted by headachequeen on January 19, 2004, at 19:40:15
In reply to Re: topomax...Hair loss!, posted by redscarlet on January 16, 2004, at 18:14:06
> The VERY BAD (lots of) hair loss did NOT stop in the 2+ years I was on it (and my hair is like straw too). The whole time I was on the Topamax I also took all the vitamins that were suppose to keep/stop the hair loss, but it didn't help at all.
I stopped taking the biotin because I ran out of it and kept forgetting to renew it... and me such a vain critter where me hair is concerned...
me hair began to return to the earlier straw-like consisitency of the tegretin attack ...
we are back on biotin with a vengeance and seeing an improvement...
it will take a while but there is an improvement...
kat
Posted by ren on January 19, 2004, at 20:09:41
In reply to Re: topomax » whtdovepeace, posted by headachequeen on January 19, 2004, at 19:36:48
I really think this is one medication that has to be started very slowly.... 25mg the first week was causing me trouble and even though the doctor wasn't convinced I was having so many side effects, she cut my dose back to every other day for now. The slower the better in my book. Everyone is different but you can't hurt anything by going slow.... good luck to all...Ren
Posted by redscarlet on January 19, 2004, at 23:25:54
In reply to Re: topomax » redscarlet, posted by headachequeen on January 19, 2004, at 19:40:15
I have decided to take more Botin. I read some place that some people need as much as 5000 mcg a day and I was only taking 2500 mcg a day. I'm hoping I will have some luck with this and hoping too that the Lonegran will not destroy the rest of what hair I have left!
Posted by sarita0001 on January 19, 2004, at 23:30:44
In reply to Just for weight loss, posted by Tierra on January 19, 2004, at 19:25:46
Hi,
I took Topamax and hated the side effects. When I started taking it, I was fed up with the weight gain from lithium. Try anything else first, diet, exercise, a different medication, lowering the dosage if possible. I would only recommend it if your weight is a risk to your health. I was 25 lbs overweight, which is a lot but at the time I was impatient and probably could have taken the weight off myself if I had just waited till I was less busy. Also, Topamax had been under clinical trials for weight loss and the trials usually didn't finish because people couldn't deal with the side effects. Some articles about it on www.qualitycounts.com.
Search under Topamax.Good luck
Sara
Posted by redscarlet on January 19, 2004, at 23:44:06
In reply to Just for weight loss, posted by Tierra on January 19, 2004, at 19:25:46
Not everyone losses weight on Topamax. So I don't think I would take it just for the possible chance I would loose weight, there are a LOT of side effects with this drug. I took it because I had to for Bipolar disorder. This is just my option, but you can decide if it's worth it or not.
Posted by micro on January 20, 2004, at 0:06:21
In reply to Re: weight loss, posted by kka on January 11, 2004, at 19:54:25
> > I started Topamax to counteract weight gain with Anti-D's and aslo help my Migrains. I have finally worked my way up to 125-150 mgs a day in three months. Although I have not had hardly and side effects since I have slowly increased the dose, I have not seen ANY weight loss. The urge to binge or over-eat has dimished, any I definitely eat less, but I am very fustrated with the lack of weight loss. What dosage has anyone begun to see real weight loss? Any input would be great! Thanks
> > increased by more than 100% (from 30mg to 75) if I'm going to naturally plateau or if (HA HA -- this is joke-able) I would hit a point where I'd actually lose too much or not be able to control the loss of weight.
> >
> >
> > I worried about that too but it seems that I have reached a point that some sort of control has come into effect and I am eating some sort of sensible amount of food on my own.. something that I have been unable to do for a long time...
> > first the anorexia routine then came the depression when food seemed to provide comfort...
> > but during December and into the first few days of January when I was battling depression I did not gain any weight...
> > so things seem to be controlling themselves I know it is not me...
> > I am not ready for a size eight jean or slacks but the waist of the ten is much too loose... not sure what to do there... and hate to look sloppy...
> > how things change in our outlook LOL
> > kat
>
> Hello, Try not to be so hard on yourself at this time. I know that it is difficult to do, but it will all balance out in time.Try to push fluids especially water and try some moderate exercise if you can. If you like veggies, you can eat lots of them with some carb free dressing or dips. Go to Walden Farms.com.These dips and dressings are actually quite good. These are empty calories with high fiber and healthy rewards especially your green leafy veggies. Also, There is a book called Eating for your Blood type which may be beneficial.Don't forget some light aerobics, go slow and build up. You will love the results. Good Luck! Micro
Posted by msmelissa on January 20, 2004, at 10:25:37
In reply to Topamax Experiences?, posted by Kingfish on January 4, 2001, at 7:29:48
Yes, my hair has been coming out at the roots but it is growing back in. I have colored it twice because of the grays and the same amount comes out. I have very straight hair and have been considering a perm for a long time and wonder what it might do. So, just curious if anyone else has gotten one since they have been on Topamax and if it was a good or bad experience.
msmelissa
Posted by headachequeen on January 20, 2004, at 10:26:41
In reply to Re: topomax headachequeen, posted by redscarlet on January 19, 2004, at 23:25:54
> I have decided to take more Botin. I read some place that some people need as much as 5000 mcg a day and I was only taking 2500 mcg a day. I'm hoping I will have some luck with this and hoping too that the Lonegran will not destroy the rest of what hair I have left!
>
Try taking Vitamin E and a small amount of zinc so your system can process the E along with fish oil capsule it really helps the hair too... I learned so much about skin and hair from conditioning the dogs,,, then learned to apply it to my own hair from the Tegretol once Murph jogged my memory; now I take the same regimen my dogs follow LOL and it works,
remember that Topomax depletes the vitamins we have in our systems so we have to replenish them...
and for those who want to lose weight there are rumours about specific foods helping... apples, celery, low fat milk, salmon (the Omega 3 oils in it), spinach, grapefruit, strawberries,oh man there are three others and I can't remember them but they will come to me later ...
they are not rumour or old wives' tales.. they do help...
as do the cashews and pecans and so on...
oh peanut butter is one of them...
had some time to kill in the clinic yesterday waiting for the eye surgeon and read this information in one of the brochures he had there.. he has this thing about fad diets so he keeps information there for his patients.. I wrote down the info but it is downstairs and I am here... shall find it and post it later...
kat
Posted by helenag on January 20, 2004, at 16:24:33
In reply to Just for weight loss, posted by Tierra on January 19, 2004, at 19:25:46
There is no way I would recommend this drug for use as a weight loss aid only. Loss of appetite is a side effect of the drug, among other things such as: numbness and tingling in fingers and toes, tiredness, cognitive slowness (forgetting the names of people, for one).
The weight loss associated with topamax is not a reason to be on the drug, in my opinion. It is an excellent mood stabilizer for those who need it and for whom it has helped.
It is certainly not harmless or akin to Slim Fast or some other over the counter pill (which have their own side effects, I would imagine.)
In any event, I hope you consult a physician with all your questions and pay attention to the folks on this board who have shared their experiences with topamax.
Peace,
Posted by sarita0001 on January 21, 2004, at 19:31:20
In reply to Ladies, have you had a perm after starting Topamax, posted by msmelissa on January 20, 2004, at 10:25:37
Hi,
Some anticonvulsants can change hair texture temporarily( eg, smooth to coarse, curly to less curly. My hair is straight and every now and then has the tendency to become frizzy on top, this happened more on Tmax.
Sara
Posted by headachequeen on January 21, 2004, at 20:06:35
In reply to Re: Just for weight loss » Tierra, posted by helenag on January 20, 2004, at 16:24:33
>
> It is certainly not harmless or akin to Slim Fast or some other over the counter pill (which have their own side effects, I would imagine.)
Many of the over the counter pills and potions have truly frightening side effects
when one considers that they are not monitored by physicians of any sort they are even more frightening.. there have been deaths attributed to some of them btwIt is important to remember that Topomax has a link to weight loss but as a SIDE EFFECT of its primary intent...
kat
Posted by Beck on January 21, 2004, at 20:35:07
In reply to Topamax Experiences?, posted by Kingfish on January 4, 2001, at 7:29:48
Yipee!!!! no more topamax! My neurologist said I could just stop taking it. I REALY disliked that med! I admit, yeah sure if I had Bipolar or seizures or somthing more serious than migrains onece or twice a week, then maybe, just maybe, I could put up with the horrendous side-effects, but nope, this med isn't for me. I think 23 is to young to loose your hair, maybe I'm just vain though. Due to other problems I oonly get 60oz of water a day, I worry this is not enough to prevent kidney stones. i lost weight, then gained it bck, so that did nothing. Forgetting everything just does not work with me(I'm proud of my memory), and my fiancee is trying to be patient but I repeat myself, stutter, and do just plain dumb stuff, and somtimes he gets a bit irritated. So Bye Bye to this medicine! My question is, should i listen to my neurologist and just quit cold turkey? I take one 25mg. in the am, 1/2 of a 25mg in the pm.
Any help would be appriciated!
Posted by ren on January 22, 2004, at 6:55:47
In reply to Re: Topamax Experiences?, posted by Beck on January 21, 2004, at 20:35:07
Hi Beck.... I'm with you... I was also taking this for migraines. I have vertigo as well, which the nuero thinks is coming from the headaches, however on the Topamax I felt foggier than ever! Along with the other side effects, I was beside myself!! And that was at only 25mg, which I was suppose to increase weekly until I reached 100! We decided to cut back to 25 every other day to get started more slowly, but I swear I feel better on the days I don't take it... I don't think its the right med for me either and am deciding to stop it all together... I hope you find something that works, medications are soooo fustrating....
good luck...
Ren
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 24, 2004, at 13:21:11
In reply to Re: Tomamax for weight loss, posted by Magazine Reporter on November 25, 2003, at 8:46:38
> I am a reporter for a national women's magazine writing an article on drugs that people use for weight loss, and on people's real experiences with those drugs...
For those who are interested, the article's out:
One Pill Makes You Smaller?
by Eliza McCarthy
http://www.elle.com/article.asp?article_id=3828Bob
Posted by blueeye on January 26, 2004, at 22:55:04
In reply to Re: Just for weight loss » Tierra, posted by helenag on January 20, 2004, at 16:24:33
I have to laugh about all the weight loss stuff and topomax. I took Depakote for ten years, and have taken Topomax for just over a month and dropped the 20 pounds Depakote packed on. The hair loss is nothing like the clumps that fell out with Depakote. One thing-my pdoc said people on Topomax were "collapsing;" three to five people in my rural area-anyone heard of that? I TAKE it for bi-polar and seizure disorder, so for God's sake...
She switched me to trileptil and is ever so slowly bringing me back up on the topomax (25mg per 2 weeks) for the bi-polar treatment. Yes, it makes you feel like a walking drunken idiot for awhile, but THAT PASSES. It seems many forget that the side effects do actually PASS.
God Bless.
Posted by headachequeen on January 27, 2004, at 16:54:23
In reply to Re: Just for weight loss, posted by blueeye on January 26, 2004, at 22:55:04
> I have to laugh about all the weight loss stuff and topomax. I took Depakote for ten years, and have taken Topomax for just over a month and dropped the 20 pounds Depakote packed on. The hair loss is nothing like the clumps that fell out with Depakote. One thing-my pdoc said people on Topomax were "collapsing;" three to five people in my rural area-anyone heard of that? I TAKE it for bi-polar and seizure disorder, so for God's sake...
> She switched me to trileptil and is ever so slowly bringing me back up on the topomax (25mg per 2 weeks) for the bi-polar treatment. Yes, it makes you feel like a walking drunken idiot for awhile, but THAT PASSES. It seems many forget that the side effects do actually PASS.
>
> God Bless.
I take it for epileptic seizures as a secondary med and it has never caused any sort of collapse or my neuro would never have prescribed it...
epilepsy is a big enough problem for heaven's sake without that...
anyone I know who is on Topomax is usually prescribed it on a slow schedule of increments... 25 mg for two weeks then a 25 mg increase for the next two weeks and so on...
at the moment I am taking 400 mg each evening and 400 mg each morning so as to be able to cut back on TEgretol to see if that makes any difference in the reactions to the tegretol...
the side effects to the topomax have reduced greatly over the months but the tegretol seems to keep on keeping on...
and it did not really take effect until the topomax was added...
so why is topomax secondary is what I want to know...
as for collapsing??? this is the first I have heard of it....
interesting indeed
kat
Posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:22:40
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax, posted by phillybob on January 9, 2001, at 12:46:41
Hi anyone, Are you using topamax for bipolar? Or if not what does it treat? Hope this is not a stupid question. theresaM
Posted by headachequeen on January 29, 2004, at 16:40:51
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax, posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:22:40
> Hi anyone, Are you using topamax for bipolar? Or if not what does it treat? Hope this is not a stupid question. theresaM
Hi
Topomax was originally developed to deal with seizures. As I am an epileptic I take it to help prevent further seizures (to back up the dread Tegretol)
apparently it has shown, as one of its side effects, some efficacy in dealing with migraines another of the problems I live with and wish I didn't.
The neuro prescribed it instead of increasing the tegretol...
he warned me though that topomax also had a side effect of causing weight loss which has happened too ...kat
Posted by PoohBear on January 29, 2004, at 17:26:56
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax, posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:22:40
> Hi anyone, Are you using topamax for bipolar? Or if not what does it treat? Hope this is not a stupid question. theresaM
There are no stupid questions...
I take Topamax for sleep and as a mood stabilizer. I have clinical depression/ADHD, and it looks like I may have bipolar 2 as well, so the Topamax will fit right in with the Effexor. It's worked quite well so far, sleep has been good, with no side effects. Haven't noticed any weight LOSS, but at least no weight GAIN, like on Remeron...
Tony
Posted by Karen_kay on January 29, 2004, at 20:06:52
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax, posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:22:40
I take topamax for Bipolar I disorder. I've been taking it for about 8 months now and have lost over 25 lbs. I'm taking 300 mgs per day. And it has helped me Tremendously!!! If you have any other questions, feel free to enquire! And there is no such thing as a stupid question, dear! Didn't you learn anything in school? :)
Posted by Sooshi on January 29, 2004, at 21:17:54
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax, posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:22:40
I take it for BPII and it has helped, along with Effexor. Lots of side effects at first, which have mostly gone away as I've adjusted to the med.
Posted by headachequeen on January 30, 2004, at 16:23:35
In reply to Re: The benefits of Topamax » terrics, posted by PoohBear on January 29, 2004, at 17:26:56
> > Hi anyone, Are you using topamax for bipolar? Or if not what does it treat? Hope this is not a stupid question. theresaM
okay folks, speaking of questions that may or may not be stupid and probably are and are probably repetitive in that I have probably asked before...
what is the difference between BipolarI and BipolarII ???
thanks
kat who is so easily confused
Posted by PoohBear on January 30, 2004, at 16:40:11
In reply to Re: topomax » PoohBear, posted by headachequeen on January 30, 2004, at 16:23:35
Headachequeen:
Again, not a stupid question...
Since I'm NOT currently taking Topamax for Bipolar but rather for sleep, perhaps someone else can answer this better than I, but I'll take a stab at it...
As I understand the difference is in the amplitude or severity of the difference between the high of the mania and the low of the depression parts of the disease. If you understand waveforms and amplitude (height) and frequency (distance between crests), then it will make understanding bipolar much, much easier, because that's really what it is:
a rhythmic cycling of emotional highs and lows.
The cycles (frequencies) can be very longgggggg or they can be very short or they can even be mixed.
Bipolar I is the more severe form while Bipolar II is the less severe. A good website is:
http://www.dbsalliance.org/info/bipolar.html
Cheers!
Tony
> > > Hi anyone, Are you using topamax for bipolar? Or if not what does it treat? Hope this is not a stupid question. theresaM
>
>
> okay folks, speaking of questions that may or may not be stupid and probably are and are probably repetitive in that I have probably asked before...
> what is the difference between BipolarI and BipolarII ???
> thanks
> kat who is so easily confused
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