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Posted by Bob Mathews on November 15, 2003, at 6:53:41
About 2 years ago I took an ecstasy tablet. The next day I felt really anxious. The anxious feeling never went away and eventually I was diagnosed with generalised anxiety disorder. Antidepressants (effexor, celexa, remeron, buspar) have helped a bit, but I can't get back to the kind of calm I felt before the tablet. Has anyone else had similar experiences with E?
Posted by panic_attack on November 15, 2003, at 10:09:50
In reply to Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by Bob Mathews on November 15, 2003, at 6:53:41
I have done Ecstasy 1 time... didnt like it. Made me so nervous... I had the same experience on cocaine. Never been the same since 1 night of hard core cocaine use :( I wish I never used!! You know what... I was told that the cocaine was cut with SPEED and thats probally what screwed me up. From what I beleive... Ecstacy is also cut with Speed and thats probally what messed you up! Unfortunately, it has been 3 years I have been dealing with this and things are a litttle better but not much :( Drugs suck.
Posted by NorthEven on November 15, 2003, at 16:44:46
In reply to Re: Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by panic_attack on November 15, 2003, at 10:09:50
Hi there,
Did an amphetamine (speed) 2 weeks ago, and got stuck with high anxiety for about 4 days...never going to do that again...
No good for anxious people like us...
Have a good day
Posted by tai daluna on November 16, 2003, at 7:15:25
In reply to Re: Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by NorthEven on November 15, 2003, at 16:44:46
hey... i found that MDMA and MDA (some of the versions of e: there are over a dozen different concoctions) helped my anxiety-- speed (meth amphetamine) did not; absolutely pushed me over the edge, actually. i'm guessing that your e was more speed than e. sucks when that happens. in the future, if there is a future-- don't take tabs, only caps; split caps open; if it smells like licorice and is soft, clumpy, sorta yellowy and DOESN'T burn your mouth, it's safe. btw, i hate drug dealers: liars and theives w/ no one to answer to.
but if you're on AD's you can't get high on e anyway, so why bother?
myself, i've not touched e in ages and ages...
e really helped me learn that there was a place in the world where i did not have to feel terrified and sad. i had never been so happy and relaxed as i was the first time i took e. the feeling has stayed w/ me always. it is often a comfort to me, to know i am capable of such joy. sometimes i can feel it bubble up for no reason. i didn't even know how to smile before i started raving, let alone feel comfortable enough to look someone in the eye.
that said, i suggest you be super careful messing around w/ your chemistry. later i got lost in a long speed addiction: the anxiety from that was terrible and insane and lasted a long, long time. my last meth binge was in october of 2002 and it took me 6 months to recover. i seriously thought my heart was broken and was going to give out on me at anytime. so, 6 visits to the clinic and a couple of crystal clear ECG's later, i finally admitted that maybe i was anxious!!!! effexor saved my butt, then drove me crazy, but that's N/A.peace.
tai
Posted by dms777smd on November 16, 2003, at 12:15:44
In reply to Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by Bob Mathews on November 15, 2003, at 6:53:41
I know what you're talking about.I took ecstacy maybe about 5 times and after the last time,I started having major panic attacks.I've had the social anxiety pretty much all my life,but this was bad.Now I'm on lexapro and it seems to be helping.Hope it stops for you.
Posted by Sebastian on November 17, 2003, at 12:19:06
In reply to Re: Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by dms777smd on November 16, 2003, at 12:15:44
I took e before ever being diagnosed with any disorders. The trip itself and for a while after were very anxious. For one I couldn't sleep, and two was not enjoying myself.
Posted by Robert Jose Smith on November 19, 2003, at 4:15:24
In reply to Re: Ecstasy and anxiety anyone?, posted by dms777smd on November 16, 2003, at 12:15:44
E is not what those other posters must have taken. I think your chance of having a bad time on E is maybe 1% but probably less. Anybody who doesn't have a good time--well they must have not gotten E, or their was a particular environment they couldn't change--ie no hotties/friends to party with. There are other drugs like MDMA, you can go to a website that tells you the purity and content of the drugs on the street. I forget what it's called but you'll find it. MDMA, when used properly, is what Tai said. He's right though Effexor is like E sometimes! It's a phenylalenine they say. Read a guy named Shulgin who wrote PIKAL to know more. In fact if it weren't for E I bet there would be no prozac today--but that's a guess I have no knowledge of that--I base that on intuition from field experience!!!
Their are other drugs which are like E but MDMA is supposed to be prefered for it's "emphatic" quality--no other drug has that. So if you weren't empathizing like a mofo--then you probably weren't on E. MDA is the love drug and maybe lasts longer and MDEA (EVE) doesn't last as long as either.
The people reporting negative symptoms, well I agree with anybody who said they got some straight up speed--probably crystal for the 4 day person. If fact how could they not know? Hey I just had chocolate and it rocked my world because I never eat it or drink caffeine--but I don't think it's going to ruin my life. Those anxieties will go away.
The only thing I wonder is that I never really fealt anxious on ritalin when I first got it, but then later after a year I just felt like shit when I took it. I wondered if it had anything to do with E--I don't know about that.
I'm sure as the ritalin dose went up the anxiety went up and after some denial my mind fully discerned the feeling of nervousness & anxiety. Though it was years until I would acknowledged it wasn't simply depression which was more socially acceptable at the time. So I'm really in a similar boat with Tai on this entire issue.
Regular speed will just wear off. Cocaine should wear of very fast--it's weak compared to ampetamines says my formerly addicted friend. Plus Coc will put you in an attitude problem for sure. I don't know how people like that stuff.
And Tai is really right about the purity issues there's no way to know what your getting so ask people what they are on if you're going to do it. Don't get it from some shady person if you do get it--they'll slip you some crap they made from the Tylenol collection and you'll be wondering what's wrong with you!
You'll know it's good E because you want to hurl after you take it--you'll sweat become hot--need to cool off--or you'll puke. When that horrible side effect goes away--your rockin' and you only take it once--no seconds--they won't work plus adding seconds only brings out the side effects--it's a one time deal--and when it's wearing off all you need to do is dance or relax to feel better. I never understand those people who don't understand when that feeling of stupidity has worn off--that it won't come back until the next time they dose. I actaully like that feeling the most as E doesn't really wear out for me--I feel like I'm rolling for a long time--just thinking about it makes me feel so good now--I know I'll not want to take it again because it really does make you realize that you can be happy and that's the frickin' bottom line. Stupid and happy. Just don't get caught up in the moments of your trip--you don't really love some random person you made out or hung out with--thought they may be totally cool and theirs nothing wrong with love--just don't get married right away. The thing to remember is the feeling.
Also don't listen to the govt. Propaganda--I doubt that any commercials on TV are legitimate cases--they won't tell you the kid died taking robitussin (eg. PHA?) sold as E. And I even saw a poser girl lying before the senate saying that her E addiction made her steal big time the same way Crack addicts and heroin junkies do. The child was just a ruffian doing what she could to stay out of trouble is my opinion. She probably would have done what she did for beannie babies--and she probably just thought it was a great excuse. Who can blame her? I really feel sickened by all those commercials. Where are the heroin commericals? Where are the crack commercials? Where are the Oxycontin commercials?
The main ways you can die from E is too much water or too little. Heat exhaustion. So don't get hot. And don't do drugs but if you do, please make sure they're real and don't goto excesses and be safe. Remember E isn't addicting--but that doesn't mean you should use it. On the other hand maybe some people would have been better off doing one E than a months/lifetimes worth of RX? Who knows.
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