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Posted by RT on November 5, 2003, at 19:13:56
Anyone had orgasim problems with nardil and what can you do about it. Hopefully its something that will pass cause ive only been on it 4-5 weeks. wondering if it will get worse as the dosage is increased. I also went from insomnia to feeling very sedated in the afternoon , is this normal?
Thanks
Posted by ace on November 5, 2003, at 23:34:08
In reply to Nardil question, posted by RT on November 5, 2003, at 19:13:56
> Anyone had orgasim problems with nardil and what can you do about it.
Yes, i suffered these problems. They usually go after a few months. But you can try...
1. 15-20mg Bethenachol before activity
2. Cyproheptadine before activity (Careful as might precipitate panic in some)There is some more I forgot!
Hopefully its something that will pass cause ive only been on it 4-5 weeks. wondering if it will get worse as the dosage is increased.
Maybe.
I also went from insomnia to feeling very sedated in the afternoon , is this normal?Yeah...lots of people have different reactions to Nardil...usually all the s/effects pass but.
> Thanks
Youre not on the 'Gluten free' Nardil are you? If so, get the old formulation. The new formulation doesn't seem to work.
Ace.
Posted by RT on November 6, 2003, at 19:32:12
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by ace on November 5, 2003, at 23:34:08
How do you know you have the old formulation. The one I have now is a orange tablet with PD 270 on it
It doesnt have a shiny coating, looks like an aspirn. The pharmacy didnt even have any to start with , they had to order it.
Posted by ace on November 6, 2003, at 23:56:16
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 6, 2003, at 19:32:12
> How do you know you have the old formulation. The one I have now is a orange tablet with PD 270 on it
> It doesnt have a shiny coating, looks like an aspirn. The pharmacy didnt even have any to start with , they had to order it.But is it totally orange?
Has it got 'gluten free' written on it?
Also, who is the manafacturer on the box- Pfizer, Link Pharmaceuticals?
Ace.
Posted by ace on November 7, 2003, at 0:16:14
In reply to Re: Nardil question » RT, posted by ace on November 6, 2003, at 23:56:16
Dude, I think you have the new version- a guy below wrote about the new one having 'Pd 270' on it- where are you getting it from?
Can you import the old version?
Posted by RT on November 7, 2003, at 19:50:24
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by ace on November 7, 2003, at 0:16:14
> Dude, I think you have the new version- a guy below wrote about the new one having 'Pd 270' on it- where are you getting it from?
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> Can you import the old version?
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What does your nardil look like . I get mine from medicap pharmacy. Import the old version from where? Wont the old version run out sooner or later. Why do some places have the old and some have the new. where do you get your ?
Thanks for always responding to my posts !!!
Posted by RT on November 7, 2003, at 20:35:56
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 7, 2003, at 19:50:24
> > Dude, I think you have the new version- a guy below wrote about the new one having 'Pd 270' on it- where are you getting it from?
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> > Can you import the old version?
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> What does your nardil look like . I get mine from medicap pharmacy. Import the old version from where? Wont the old version run out sooner or later. Why do some places have the old and some have the new. where do you get your ?
> Thanks for always responding to my posts !!!
>I forgot to ask if there is anything that you can take to help with the day time sleepiness while taking nardil?
Posted by bobbiedobbs on November 9, 2003, at 11:16:46
In reply to Nardil question, posted by RT on November 5, 2003, at 19:13:56
I took nardil for about 15 yrs and can speak with some authority at least from my own experience. I had no orgazms above 45 mg. it did not get better. You might try switching to parnate if the problem persists - it is much more benign on side effects of all sorts.
Posted by RT on November 9, 2003, at 13:05:21
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by bobbiedobbs on November 9, 2003, at 11:16:46
> I took nardil for about 15 yrs and can speak with some authority at least from my own experience. I had no orgazms above 45 mg. it did not get better. You might try switching to parnate if the problem persists - it is much more benign on side effects of all sorts.
Will the parnate be as effective with social anxiety ?
Posted by ace on November 9, 2003, at 21:00:08
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 7, 2003, at 19:50:24
> > Dude, I think you have the new version- a guy below wrote about the new one having 'Pd 270' on it- where are you getting it from?
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> > Can you import the old version?
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> What does your nardil look like .Completely orange.
I get mine from medicap pharmacy. Import the old version from where?
From Link Pharmaceuticals Australia or UK.
Wont the old version run out sooner or later.
No. I actually think the new version is gonna die- 1 person I've heard is actually taking Pfizer to court. Link will always have the old version.
Why do some places have the old and some have the new.Because Pfizer stocks it someplaces and Link stock it to others...
where do you get your ?
From Link Pharmaceuticals of course!!!
> Thanks for always responding to my posts !!!
>No worries!, the pleasure is mine.
Ace.
Posted by ace on November 9, 2003, at 21:00:55
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 7, 2003, at 20:35:56
> I forgot to ask if there is anything that you can take to help with the day time sleepiness while taking nardil?
>Yeah, a small dose of a psychostimulant...how bad is the sedation?
Ace.
Posted by ace on November 9, 2003, at 21:02:35
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by bobbiedobbs on November 9, 2003, at 11:16:46
> I took nardil for about 15 yrs and can speak with some authority at least from my own experience. I had no orgazms above 45 mg. it did not get better.
That's not good. Thankfully for me, anorgasmia sets in at about 90mg then gets better after a few months. You can always use other meds to get the orgasma back...
You might try switching to parnate if the problem persists - it is much more benign on side effects of all sorts.
Posted by ace on November 9, 2003, at 21:03:33
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 9, 2003, at 13:05:21
> > I took nardil for about 15 yrs and can speak with some authority at least from my own experience. I had no orgazms above 45 mg. it did not get better. You might try switching to parnate if the problem persists - it is much more benign on side effects of all sorts.
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> Will the parnate be as effective with social anxiety ?
According to research...no. According to most, but not all, anecdotes I've seen (and I've seen a lot)...no.
Posted by RT on November 9, 2003, at 21:16:36
In reply to Re: Nardil question » RT, posted by ace on November 9, 2003, at 21:00:55
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> > I forgot to ask if there is anything that you can take to help with the day time sleepiness while taking nardil?
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> Yeah, a small dose of a psychostimulant...how bad is the sedation?
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> Ace.The sedation seems to hit in the mid afternoon and I kind of feel like a zombie. When I get in my car to drive home I have almost fallen asleep at the wheel before. The sedation does wear off after supper.(What kind of psychostimulant would you suggest) , You dont think it would have an effect on blood pressure ?
As always thank you for your wisdom !
Posted by bobbiedobbs on November 10, 2003, at 11:51:28
In reply to Re: Nardil question, posted by RT on November 9, 2003, at 21:16:36
RE your two concerns - parnate for social anxiety and daytime sleepiness:
parnate and nardil work differently - from each other, for different individuals - I found nardil activating and parnate a bit sedating but i've read lots of posts from others who found the opposite - that's one reason to try parnate. when i took nardil i just drank coffee when i got tired.
re social anxiety, yes, nardil was better but it got be way buzzed. there is a social anxiety assn that actually recommends parnate over nardil. again, i think results vary by individual so it is worth trying a different mao if side effects and anxiety levels dictate. i say this knowing is a major nardil player. nardil worked wonders for me for manyyears. best of luck. phil
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