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best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?

Posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 1:59:48

I use this site forum to depression, but I need some more specific people that has social phobia, with or without depression.
Please, just write good sites.
tanks! RVP

 

Here are a couple...

Posted by BackOfClass on October 27, 2003, at 8:05:04

In reply to best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?, posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 1:59:48

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com
http://www.socialfear.com
http://www.social-anxiety.org.uk
http://www.freedomfromfear.com

 

Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA? » Ramon Paz

Posted by JonW on October 27, 2003, at 17:27:53

In reply to best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?, posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 1:59:48

> I use this site forum to depression, but I need some more specific people that has social phobia, with or without depression.
> Please, just write good sites.
> tanks! RVP

Most forums on the net for social anxiety seem to be more geared toward CBT. Which, in my mind, is critical to overcoming social phobia. There are pleanty of people here with SAD, and some of the most knowledgeable posters you'll find. Basically, if you're looking for input on medications... this is the place to be. If you're looking for support and to share with others who have social phobia, or help with CBT, there are better places than here. The people here are, howevever, some of the friendliest and most supportive people around.

What is it you need help with? I've had severe social anxiety and depression my entire life... I've been on pretty much every med you could think to try for it.... I'm currently the best I've ever been, and have combined moclobemide with an intensive CBT program. This combination has been a godsend. Anyway, ask away if there's anything I can help you with.

Jon :)

 

Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?

Posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 23:53:24

In reply to Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA? » Ramon Paz, posted by JonW on October 27, 2003, at 17:27:53

> > I use this site forum to depression, but I need some more specific people that has social phobia, with or without depression.
> > Please, just write good sites.
> > tanks! RVP
>
> Most forums on the net for social anxiety seem to be more geared toward CBT. Which, in my mind, is critical to overcoming social phobia. There are pleanty of people here with SAD, and some of the most knowledgeable posters you'll find. Basically, if you're looking for input on medications... this is the place to be. If you're looking for support and to share with others who have social phobia, or help with CBT, there are better places than here. The people here are, howevever, some of the friendliest and most supportive people around.
>
> What is it you need help with? I've had severe social anxiety and depression my entire life... I've been on pretty much every med you could think to try for it.... I'm currently the best I've ever been, and have combined moclobemide with an intensive CBT program. This combination has been a godsend. Anyway, ask away if there's anything I can help you with.
>
> Jon :)

thanks for that sites BOC...

Jon, you said you already took everything. But how about the combinations? And NARDIL?
We have aurorix here in Brasil. I already used it to switch parnate to other meds, but it let me nervous, agitated, but motivated and better too. I found a way of buy Nardil bottles imported by wholesale price. 40USD each bottle(can talk about costs here? even brasilian costs?)Well so I (and my geminy brother, decided to go to Nardil, since the Parnate (5USD a box of 20 tabs here) havent worked to social phobia, and to depression only in 100+mgs/day, but I stopped due to the octopamine issue(I dont now if nardil do it too). Anyway I never got on Aurorix for longs periods.
So in your opininon Aurorix worked better than Nardil?let me know about that and from others users.
I'll be waiting a new post.

 

Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA? » Ramon Paz

Posted by btnd on October 28, 2003, at 4:22:07

In reply to Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?, posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 23:53:24

> Jon, you said you already took everything. But how about the combinations? And NARDIL?
> We have aurorix here in Brasil. I already used it to switch parnate to other meds, but it let me nervous, agitated, but motivated and better too. I found a way of buy Nardil bottles imported by wholesale price. 40USD each bottle(can talk about costs here? even brasilian costs?)Well so I (and my geminy brother, decided to go to Nardil, since the Parnate (5USD a box of 20 tabs here) havent worked to social phobia, and to depression only in 100+mgs/day, but I stopped due to the octopamine issue(I dont now if nardil do it too). Anyway I never got on Aurorix for longs periods.
> So in your opininon Aurorix worked better than Nardil?let me know about that and from others users.
> I'll be waiting a new post.

Ron if you know prices so well, could you tell me how much does Survector(amineptine) cost in Brazil?
And as far as my recommendation - for social phobia it would be definitely amisulpride (called in Europe: Solian). Clonazepam (Klonopin/Rivotril) also works pretty good.

 

Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA? » Ramon Paz

Posted by JonW on October 28, 2003, at 9:51:13

In reply to Re: best forum www about SOICIAL PHOBIA?, posted by Ramon Paz on October 27, 2003, at 23:53:24

> Jon, you said you already took everything. But how about the combinations? And NARDIL?

I've been on Nardil, but had to stop due to side-effects. I have been on numerous combinations of drugs... as many as six at once. I haven't tried everything, but I've tried a hell of a lot. For me, medication alone is not the answer. Without it, remission wouldn't be an option, but it alone is not the solution. Even Nardil, the best med I've been on for social anxiety, left me far from recovered. Moclobemide is comparable to Paxil for me, but without the side-effects. This combined with a very targeted CBT program, has been synergistic for me. I also take the dietary supplement acetyl-l-carnitine.

> We have aurorix here in Brasil. I already used it to switch parnate to other meds, but it let me nervous, agitated, but motivated and better too.

If you were switching meds at the time, it's hard to have a 100% accurate picture of what caused your mervousness and agitation. I mean, it could've been the moclobemide or it could've been the lack of Parnate, or the combination. I also experienced some agitation and irritability while starting moclobemide. It went away, though. I also discovered that taking several small doses throughout the day is far smoother and better, for me, than taking two larger doses. I am very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that is even mildly stimulating. The crash of a 300mg dose of moclobemide, which has no more than a two hour half-life (I think the MAO inhibition is something like 24 hours, though), is worse than a dose of 150mg. I take 150mg three times a day. You could even try 100mg or 75mg four times a day. For someone who requires 900mg or more of this stuff, which isn't uncommon, that might not be a very practical solution. Dividing it into smaller doses throughout the day, though, is what has allowed me to tolerate this drug.

>Anyway I never got on Aurorix for longs periods.

For me, it took a good eight weeks at the right dose to get a solid response. I also had an initial response the first week, but that faded somewhat. Then after eight weeks or so on 450mg (150mg 3x/day), the drug really started to kick in.

>So in your opininon Aurorix worked better than Nardil?let me know about that and from others users.

I try to be as unbiased as possible when posting. The truth is Nardil is probably the most potent when it comes to social anxiety disorder, but with a lot of side-effects. Many people swear by moclobemide, but it seems that fewer people respond to it than other drugs. In clinical trials and by reputation, it appears somewhat less potent than other drugs. It has been a miracle for me, though. Moclobemide doesn't rob me of me. It enables me to change myself for the better, and the combination of that opportunity with CBT has made all the difference in the world. In comparing Nardil to moclobemide, I would say that Nardil is a little more powerful, but for me, not enough more to justify the side-effects and dietary restrictions. If you're going for a medication only approach, Nardil is definitely the big gun. Adding CBT could broaden the medication options you have at your disposal, though. Don't underestimate the synergy of a somewhat helpful drug and CBT. This has allowed me to enjoy a road to recovery that is essentially free of side-effects, and in the long run, has proven to be more effective than even Nardil alone.

Jon :)


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