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Posted by linkadge on October 19, 2003, at 7:50:58
I took Parnate in the morning -
2 hours later my bp was fine.Within 10 minautes of eating breakfast
my BP shot up to 150 / 90
I had the followingToast - loaded with garlic (was this it)
Milk
1 orange
OatmealHelp me out here
Linkadge
Posted by cybercafe on October 19, 2003, at 13:24:45
In reply to hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by linkadge on October 19, 2003, at 7:50:58
> I took Parnate in the morning -
> 2 hours later my bp was fine.
>
> Within 10 minautes of eating breakfast
> my BP shot up to 150 / 90
>
>
> I had the following
>
> Toast - loaded with garlic (was this it)
> Milk
> 1 orange
> Oatmeal
>
>
>
> Help me out here
>
> Linkadge
>hmmm... maybe it was a spontaneous crisis?
i don't know if this is right, but a nurse told me that the lower number (diastolic?) is the most important, and as long as it's below 100 you shouldn't worry (but i could be completely wrong here)
good luck
cybercafe (2 days to parnate!)
Posted by MelD on October 19, 2003, at 16:43:23
In reply to hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by linkadge on October 19, 2003, at 7:50:58
Everything you ate is fine, unless it was starting to spoil? Was the milk fresh?
Posted by cubbybear on October 20, 2003, at 1:21:13
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by MelD on October 19, 2003, at 16:43:23
I wouldn't consider a blood pressure reading like that to be indicative of a hypertensive crisis. And besides, none of the foods you ate can be implicated in the spike. If I were you, I would have my blood pressure monitored regularly--perhaps you're just coincidentally experiencing hypertension as a consequence of age, family history, etc.
Posted by linkadge on October 20, 2003, at 8:53:23
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by cubbybear on October 20, 2003, at 1:21:13
I'm only 20 years old and my normal blood pressure is 120/70. I don't know if I can
condinue on parnate. Every time I take it
it's like my brain gets locked into a state
of fear, and my BP goes through the roof.It seems like God is continually condemnming
me, so the only way I can help it is to
go around confessing everything to everybody.I also can't stop crying.
A times I feel so suicidal.
Going to the psychiatrist this evening.Linkadge
Posted by cubbybear on October 20, 2003, at 12:15:17
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by linkadge on October 20, 2003, at 8:53:23
Your feelings of extreme guilt, as well as suicidal feelings, are common symptoms of depression.
But I guess I had you pegged wrong regarding the blood pressure.
By all means you should mention all of this to your doctor without delay.
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 20, 2003, at 13:00:24
In reply to hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by linkadge on October 19, 2003, at 7:50:58
> I took Parnate in the morning -
> 2 hours later my bp was fine.
>
> Within 10 minautes of eating breakfast
> my BP shot up to 150 / 90
>
>
> I had the following
>
> Toast - loaded with garlic (was this it)
> Milk
> 1 orange
> Oatmeal
>
>
>
> Help me out here
>
> LinkadgeWithout considering the merits (?) of combining garlic and orange juice at breakfast, I'd have to ask the provenance of the garlic. Was it prepared fresh, or from a bottle? If the latter, it may well have been the subject of substantial bacterial action, and thus could be a possible source of pressor amines, such as tyramine.
Lar
Posted by Seamus2 on October 20, 2003, at 21:56:35
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by linkadge on October 20, 2003, at 8:53:23
> I'm only 20 years old and my normal blood pressure is 120/70. I don't know if I can
> condinue on parnate. Every time I take it
> it's like my brain gets locked into a state
> of fear, and my BP goes through the roof.
>
> It seems like God is continually condemnming
> me, so the only way I can help it is to
> go around confessing everything to everybody.
>
> I also can't stop crying.
>
>
> A times I feel so suicidal.
>
>
> Going to the psychiatrist this evening.
>
>
>
> Linkadge
The crying thing is normal if you're just starting to come out of the depression, and so are all the other emotions. That's a *good* sign -- ask for some non-pharmacologic help integrating those emotions into your life.Try dividing the doses of Parnate equally around the clock, or even taking it all just before bed.
And quit measuring your BP after breakfast! Don't you have a job to go to or something? <g>
Posted by Questionmark on October 22, 2003, at 23:23:47
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis - which food ??, posted by Seamus2 on October 20, 2003, at 21:56:35
> > I'm only 20 years old and my normal blood pressure is 120/70. I don't know if I can
> > condinue on parnate. Every time I take it
> > it's like my brain gets locked into a state
> > of fear, and my BP goes through the roof.
> >
> > It seems like God is continually condemnming
> > me, so the only way I can help it is to
> > go around confessing everything to everybody.
> >
> > I also can't stop crying.
> >
> >
> > A times I feel so suicidal.i'm sorry to hear all this, man. i thought you were doing well before. But yeah, i cried alot while on Parnate, too. It was terrible. The psychological pain & depression were tremendous. And Parnate kept showing me all too clearly the reality of my life (not that this is the case with you; just saying). Almost unbearable (sp?). i admit i was only on it for a little over a month, so maybe that was it, i duno. But i do much better on more "numbing" drugs like SSRIs and, especially, Nardil.
> >
> > Going to the psychiatrist this evening.
> >
> >
> >
> > Linkadge
>
>
> The crying thing is normal if you're just starting to come out of the depression, and so are all the other emotions. That's a *good* sign -- ask for some non-pharmacologic help integrating those emotions into your life.Yes, but if he doesn't feel like he's coming out of the depression then i doubt it's good-- it's just painful. That's how it was for me anyway.
>
> Try dividing the doses of Parnate equally around the clock, or even taking it all just before bed.
>
> And quit measuring your BP after breakfast! Don't you have a job to go to or something? <g>PS: i have no idea what would have caused the hypertensive episode (if everything was fresh enough). Garlic should be fine. That's weird. That's another thing i hated about Parnate-- just a pinch of tyramine (or who knows what sometimes) and i'd get a hypertensive reaction. Freakin thing. Hopefully it gets better for you though.
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