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Posted by jparsell82 on September 19, 2003, at 22:33:08
Ok, I've read that when Serotonin is increased Dopamine is lowered and vice-versa. So, would that not mean if I took a Serotonin Reuptake Accelerator my Dopamine levels would increase??
Posted by zeugma on September 21, 2003, at 15:30:10
In reply to Serotonin-Dopamine relationship, posted by jparsell82 on September 19, 2003, at 22:33:08
Posted by Pfinstegg on September 21, 2003, at 21:28:53
In reply to Does tianeptine really work for depression? (nm), posted by zeugma on September 21, 2003, at 15:30:10
In my personal experience (taking 100 mg tid for 8 months, it is not a strong antidepressant. During times when I have the depression under pretty good control, I stop lexapro and take tianeptine because there are such good reported brain-protective effects (increased BNDF, protection of the hippocampus from shrinkage by cortisol, normalizing of neurotransmitter levels). It is considered a good AD in Europe, especially in France, but I have not found any strongly favorable reports here. Have you had any personal experience with it?
Pfinstegg
Posted by zeugma on September 21, 2003, at 22:11:22
In reply to Re: Does tianeptine really work for depression? » zeugma, posted by Pfinstegg on September 21, 2003, at 21:28:53
I have no personal experience with tianeptine. I am just curious because of its unusual mechanism of action.
Posted by jparsell82 on September 22, 2003, at 17:59:38
In reply to Re: Does tianeptine really work for depression? » Pfinstegg, posted by zeugma on September 21, 2003, at 22:11:22
You were on a 100mg?!? I'm taking 12.5 mg 3x daily. Anyways, I just got mine today. I'm really interested in it for many reasons. The biggest being that I'm tried Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil and they all made my problems worse. So taking Stablon could really help since it does the opposite of ssris. Plus it indirectly increases dopamine a little bit. And it reduces the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal response to stress. We'll see I guess... I'll post updates on how it's working for me.
Posted by stjames on September 22, 2003, at 19:40:24
In reply to Serotonin-Dopamine relationship, posted by jparsell82 on September 19, 2003, at 22:33:08
> Ok, I've read that when Serotonin is increased Dopamine is lowered and vice-versa.
Where dod you read this ? Deritonin and Dopamin are not increased by mds, that is not the method of action.
So, would that not mean if I took a Serotonin Reuptake Accelerator my Dopamine levels would increase??
It is a reuptake inhibator not accelerator. I don't really think there is such thing as an SSRA ! In any case it does not work this way.
What is effected it **regulation** & effecting the regulation of one does effect the other.
Posted by Ramon Paz on September 22, 2003, at 22:12:39
In reply to Does tianeptine really work for depression? (nm), posted by zeugma on September 21, 2003, at 15:30:10
only to mild depression and to old people due to low-risks side effects. But if you are too much depressive, forguet it.
Posted by Pfinstegg on September 23, 2003, at 0:13:41
In reply to Just got mine today!, posted by jparsell82 on September 22, 2003, at 17:59:38
Sorry! I've taken so many darn AD's that i got the dosages mixed up- it was 12.5 tid. I really do like the neuroprotective functions of Stablon- just wish it had had a stronger Ad effect for me. But good luck to you with it!
Pfinstegg
Posted by jparsell82 on September 23, 2003, at 17:14:49
In reply to Re: Serotonin-Dopamine relationship, posted by stjames on September 22, 2003, at 19:40:24
> > Ok, I've read that when Serotonin is increased Dopamine is lowered and vice-versa.
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> Where dod you read this ? Deritonin and Dopamin are not increased by mds, that is not the method of action.
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> So, would that not mean if I took a Serotonin Reuptake Accelerator my Dopamine levels would increase??
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> It is a reuptake inhibator not accelerator. I don't really think there is such thing as an SSRA ! In any case it does not work this way.
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> What is effected it **regulation** & effecting the regulation of one does effect the other.
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>I didn't say Serotonin & Dopamine were DIRECTLY increased by meds. Stablon IS a reuptake accelerator, it IS NOT an SSRI.
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