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Posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
I've tried so many meds for sleep...most make me feel sick, especially the anti-depressants. Clonazepam worked for a time then pooped out. I sleep well with Zyprexa but the bloating and constipation is incredible. Can anyone suggest another anti-psychotic that is good for sleep. I don't care if it is an old one as I plan to be on a very small dose, and I think the risk of a movement disorder is pretty low when used like that.
Posted by jay on September 13, 2003, at 11:22:23
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
> I've tried so many meds for sleep...most make me feel sick, especially the anti-depressants. Clonazepam worked for a time then pooped out. I sleep well with Zyprexa but the bloating and constipation is incredible. Can anyone suggest another anti-psychotic that is good for sleep. I don't care if it is an old one as I plan to be on a very small dose, and I think the risk of a movement disorder is pretty low when used like that.
>Seroquel is excellent for sleeping, and I think it is a bit cheaper than Zyprexa. That's all of the experience I have...sorry..but you shouldn't have to hard a time in choices.
Best,
Jay
Posted by jlo820 on September 13, 2003, at 11:41:32
In reply to Re: Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill » Guy, posted by jay on September 13, 2003, at 11:22:23
Yes, Seroquel is probably your best bet. Many people find benefit with a little as 25 mg.
Benzodiazepines like diazepam (Valium) and clonazepam (Klonpin) are only used for sleep for short-term problems. Their sedating effects will wear off after a few weeks of use.
Posted by Lisa P on September 13, 2003, at 16:08:26
In reply to Re: Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by jlo820 on September 13, 2003, at 11:41:32
Serequel is good. Don't feel groggy in the morning.
Lisa
Posted by Sabina on September 13, 2003, at 16:09:09
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
I've been on seroquel for Bipolar II for about 3 months now, and 50mg still makes me pretty sleepy. 50mg is my nighttime dose, along with 25mg doses in the morning and afternoon, so that I am still able to function.
I would say that sedation is the only side effect I've had so far. There's been some weight gain, but I think that was due as much to sedentary lifestyle as anything else.
I've felt *so* much better because of the drug that I've taken up going to the gym again; so hopefully, that will address the weight issue.
I hope it works for you.
Posted by Lisa P on September 13, 2003, at 16:11:43
In reply to Re: Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Lisa P on September 13, 2003, at 16:08:26
Have not had weight gain side effects on Serequel as I did on Risperdal/Zyprexa. Weight gain is also dose dependent with Serequel, so if you are on a low dose it shouldn't be as much of an issue.
Lisa
Posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 21:52:48
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
Thanks for your ideas, but unfortunately Seroquel, even at small doses, made me deathly ill (headache, nausea, malaise, etc.). My shrink would not believe me, but I know that drug was like poison to my system. Just goes to show how different we all are.
Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:35:20
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
Take Wellbutrin with the zyprexa?
Posted by galkeepinon on September 14, 2003, at 18:46:53
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
Hey Guy~just a thought.....I took SEROQUEL for sleep, and it worked GREAT!. I started at 75mg and went up to 200mg. It worked really well for me.
Good luck!:-)> I've tried so many meds for sleep...most make me feel sick, especially the anti-depressants. Clonazepam worked for a time then pooped out. I sleep well with Zyprexa but the bloating and constipation is incredible. Can anyone suggest another anti-psychotic that is good for sleep. I don't care if it is an old one as I plan to be on a very small dose, and I think the risk of a movement disorder is pretty low when used like that.
Posted by galkeepinon on September 14, 2003, at 18:49:32
In reply to Thanks, but..., posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 21:52:48
Well, there goes the Seroquel idea.
How about RESPIRDAL?
I took that for a while and it made me sleepy.
We are all different, you're right, I hope you can find something that works for YOU:-)
Good luck.
> Thanks for your ideas, but unfortunately Seroquel, even at small doses, made me deathly ill (headache, nausea, malaise, etc.). My shrink would not believe me, but I know that drug was like poison to my system. Just goes to show how different we all are.
Posted by David Smith on September 14, 2003, at 21:10:42
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
Hi Guy!
(I love saying that.)
I have been blessed with a great new pdoc.
He immediately took me off of Risperdal
due to possible TD. I was taking .25mg!!!Can you find another sleep agent besides an anti-p or do you really need it (like I still sometimes do)?
> I've tried so many meds for sleep...most make me feel sick, especially the anti-depressants. Clonazepam worked for a time then pooped out. I sleep well with Zyprexa but the bloating and constipation is incredible. Can anyone suggest another anti-psychotic that is good for sleep. I don't care if it is an old one as I plan to be on a very small dose, and I think the risk of a movement disorder is pretty low when used like that.
Posted by galkeepinon on September 14, 2003, at 23:19:38
In reply to Re: Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill » Guy, posted by David Smith on September 14, 2003, at 21:10:42
Hi, I got this suggestion from the board a while back. I take either Unisom sleeping gels to help me sleep, or I will take 2 Tylenol sinus/allergy caplets.
Both have 50mg of DIPHENHYDRAMINE HCI~an antihistamine that causes drowsiness in some (like me) and I don't wake up with a 'hangover' feeling groggy from it.
Just a thought...........
Hi Guy!
> (I love saying that.)
> I have been blessed with a great new pdoc.
> He immediately took me off of Risperdal
> due to possible TD. I was taking .25mg!!!
>
> Can you find another sleep agent besides an anti-p or do you really need it (like I still sometimes do)?
>
> > I've tried so many meds for sleep...most make me feel sick, especially the anti-depressants. Clonazepam worked for a time then pooped out. I sleep well with Zyprexa but the bloating and constipation is incredible. Can anyone suggest another anti-psychotic that is good for sleep. I don't care if it is an old one as I plan to be on a very small dose, and I think the risk of a movement disorder is pretty low when used like that.
>
>
Posted by Lazarus on September 16, 2003, at 19:34:09
In reply to Anti-psychotic as sleeping pill, posted by Guy on September 13, 2003, at 11:15:59
I have taken 25 mg Seroquel at bedtime for over two years without any problems. And believe me, I am a serious insomniac. 2.5 mg Zyprexa is also effective. It takes 2-3 hours to kick in, but it gives you a deeper, more restful sleep than Seroquel.
Lazarus
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