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Posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
k-don't know what the matter is with me tonight but am I talking about myself too much???
I chatted earlier with a few and felt like I was. Please honest answers PLEASE!!!I really don't want to be this way. A friend, who I met in a psych ward a while back made a comment to me, "you are the most self-centered person I ever met"-she later apologized and said ahe didn't mean it-but she did, and that's ok-I just have never been told that ever. And now I am very conscious of it. I don't ever want to chase anybody away from helping me or me helping them here.Also, I am still a little too manic, please someone tell me if this Lamictal has helped anyone with mania??? I know the Effexor makes me extremely manic and has a caution to docs that put their patients on it for this exact reaason, that's why I started on Lamictal thinking it would help this mania. But now I feel should I even be on Effexor???
Celexa didn't do this to me and it helped, I'm just sick, of switching back and forth.
I see my pdoc friday.
Please, please any help????
I guess I sound desperate and need some reassurance here. please? Anyone?
I'm frustrated.
kristen
Posted by tina on March 23, 2003, at 8:56:19
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
well Kristen, you do talk about yourself alot but isn't that what this support group is for? DOn't worry about it. It helps us get to know you. :)
Posted by daizy on March 23, 2003, at 9:17:28
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
> k-don't know what the matter is with me tonight but am I talking about myself too much???
> I chatted earlier with a few and felt like I was. Please honest answers PLEASE!!!I really don't want to be this way. A friend, who I met in a psych ward a while back made a comment to me, "you are the most self-centered person I ever met"-she later apologized and said ahe didn't mean it-but she did, and that's ok-I just have never been told that ever. And now I am very conscious of it. I don't ever want to chase anybody away from helping me or me helping them here.
>
> Also, I am still a little too manic, please someone tell me if this Lamictal has helped anyone with mania??? I know the Effexor makes me extremely manic and has a caution to docs that put their patients on it for this exact reaason, that's why I started on Lamictal thinking it would help this mania. But now I feel should I even be on Effexor???
> Celexa didn't do this to me and it helped, I'm just sick, of switching back and forth.
> I see my pdoc friday.
> Please, please any help????
> I guess I sound desperate and need some reassurance here. please? Anyone?
> I'm frustrated.
> kristenHey Krissy its easy to get caught up in yourself when you are depressed, I was, all you can think about is yourself and wanting to get better... its only natural! keep posting!
Posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 11:34:42
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by tina on March 23, 2003, at 8:56:19
Thank you tina for being honest!!
I appreciate it and I hear you. I guess my feelings about talking a lot should be dissed because yeah, that's what I'm here for, and we can all take it or leave it right? But maybe I disclose too much about myself.
No worries.
Thanks again:-)
Kristen
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------well Kristen, you do talk about yourself alot but isn't that what this support group is for? DOn't worry about it. It helps us get to know you. :)
Posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 11:42:53
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by daizy on March 23, 2003, at 9:17:28
thanks daizy-I appreciate your honest feedback. I will keep posting when I feel it is appropriate. I guess it is natural- I call it being responsibly selfish lol
Thanks again, and all the best to you:-)
Kristen
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> Hey Krissy its easy to get caught up in yourself when you are depressed, I was, all you can think about is yourself and wanting to get better... its only natural! keep posting!
Posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 11:47:09
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
I think I honestly feel I have to tell everything about myslef to everyone, when the fact of the matter is I don't. I just had this thought. Subconsciously, I feel like I'm trying to help others through my experiences but that's not what people want to hear sometimes, so I'll listen better:-)
Kristen
Posted by daizy on March 23, 2003, at 12:03:10
In reply to One more thing...., posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 11:47:09
> I think I honestly feel I have to tell everything about myslef to everyone, when the fact of the matter is I don't. I just had this thought. Subconsciously, I feel like I'm trying to help others through my experiences but that's not what people want to hear sometimes, so I'll listen better:-)
> KristenYou know Krissy Im really bad for telling people too much too (not talking about posts here) Just in general I think that I give too much away and would like to be more mysterious!!! Its probably that Paranoia thing about people reading my mind (PSB) again!!!
Posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 12:19:13
In reply to Re: One more thing.... » Krissy P, posted by daizy on March 23, 2003, at 12:03:10
exactly, the less you say about yourself sometimes the more people ask you about you.
I have this poem in my room to remind me get this:-)
A Wise Old Owl sat on an oak. The more he heard, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard.
Now wasn't he a wise old bird?Isn't that cool-I think it is:-)
and yep I get that paranoia sometimes about people reading my mind-for me just another issue :-( but lol--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I think I honestly feel I have to tell everything about myslef to everyone, when the fact of the matter is I don't. I just had this thought. Subconsciously, I feel like I'm trying to help others through my experiences but that's not what people want to hear sometimes, so I'll listen better:-)
> > Kristen
>
> You know Krissy Im really bad for telling people too much too (not talking about posts here) Just in general I think that I give too much away and would like to be more mysterious!!! Its probably that Paranoia thing about people reading my mind (PSB) again!!!
>
Posted by daizy on March 23, 2003, at 14:11:27
In reply to Re: One more thing.... » daizy, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 12:19:13
Posted by male34 on March 23, 2003, at 17:40:20
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
hang in there krissy hang in there
Posted by Viridis on March 23, 2003, at 22:37:19
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
Hi Krissy,
When I'm severely depressed, I become obsessive about problems that I could usually deal with quite easily. In these moods, my wife says that I'm totally self-focused (and it drives her crazy). It's an unfortunate part of the illness, but it does subside with the right meds. Agitated depression (= dysphoric hypomania?) is all about being self-centered, in a negative way. Again, it's not you, it's your illness flaring up.
When you're in that state of mind, therapy can also be a big help -- a chance to just talk about how you feel to people who are skilled in helping you through it. And for me, benzos really calm things down.
Believe me, it really does get better!
Posted by IsoM on March 24, 2003, at 0:05:15
In reply to PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by Krissy P on March 23, 2003, at 1:16:40
Kristen, I wonder if you may not have ADD. You want to know what's going on with you & your mind/brain & you can't rest until you find as much as possible. It's almost like an obsession that won't let stop until you're thoroughly sick of the whole thing or found the answers you want.
I don't think you're obsessed about 'yourself' - more so the reasons for why you act, think, or feel as you do that you're trying to figure out. If all the answers were given to you, it made sense to you, & you could take actions to change what you wish to change, you'd probably be satisfied & stop asking.
When I want to learn about something I don't understand enough of, I can't do it by half measures. I work it to death. I read & read, ask questions, observe, & even dream about it. When I'm satisfied, I move on. It's normal for someone with ADD to get too single-minded over a project. We over-focus on what interests us at that time, sometimes to the exclusion of other things that might need looking after.
So ask yourself if you've ever done that with anything else before. If yes, it may just be the ADD making you act like this.
Posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 0:32:10
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » Krissy P, posted by Viridis on March 23, 2003, at 22:37:19
Posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 0:41:35
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » Krissy P, posted by IsoM on March 24, 2003, at 0:05:15
Hi there, thank you for such a kind post. Ya know, I am beginning to wonder about ADD, I relate to what you say here 110% ADD has never come up concerning me though, do you think I should ask my doc?? I am concerned now, not from your post, but because I think there's something a little more going on here.
What do you think?
Thanks again
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Kristen, I wonder if you may not have ADD. You want to know what's going on with you & your mind/brain & you can't rest until you find as much as possible. It's almost like an obsession that won't let stop until you're thoroughly sick of the whole thing or found the answers you want.
>
> I don't think you're obsessed about 'yourself' - more so the reasons for why you act, think, or feel as you do that you're trying to figure out. If all the answers were given to you, it made sense to you, & you could take actions to change what you wish to change, you'd probably be satisfied & stop asking.
>
> When I want to learn about something I don't understand enough of, I can't do it by half measures. I work it to death. I read & read, ask questions, observe, & even dream about it. When I'm satisfied, I move on. It's normal for someone with ADD to get too single-minded over a project. We over-focus on what interests us at that time, sometimes to the exclusion of other things that might need looking after.
>
> So ask yourself if you've ever done that with anything else before. If yes, it may just be the ADD making you act like this.
Posted by Viridis on March 24, 2003, at 2:11:47
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » IsoM, posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 0:41:35
I think IsoM has a good point. My guess is that "ADD" encompasses a wide range of brain disorders -- or not even disorders, just different ways of dealing with the information overload that's relatively new (in evolutionary terms) for humans. In any case, you might ask your pdoc about this.
Stimulants can really help some people (like me) and aren't necessarily even "stimulating" if you do have some flavor of ADD. Just be careful at first, and start with very low doses if your doctor thinks ADD meds are appropriate. You're fragile right now, and have to proceed cautiously with any meds. It's a delicate balance, but if antidepressants are wrong for you (like they were for me) then another class of meds could be better.
Good luck -- you will feel better, it just takes a while to fnd the right mix.
Posted by IsoM on March 24, 2003, at 10:02:02
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » IsoM, posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 0:41:35
Kristen, I'm off to work & have some errands to look after when I'm off, but when I get a moment, either tonight or the next night, I'll post some more info for you that, hopefully, will get you on the right track in trying to figure this out better. It took me a while & lots of 'detective' work on my part to figure out why I think & act the way I do. Now that I know, I'm still trying to fine tune myself to get myself 'working' the way I'd like to be. It's a never-ending quest. ^_^
I'll see what I can do to help, but the job of figuring yourself through is going to have to rest with you.
Posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 17:40:55
In reply to ADD or what? diagnosis for you » Krissy P, posted by IsoM on March 24, 2003, at 10:02:02
Hi IsoM,
I appreciate your help so much-I might be on to something!!! Believe me, I know that the job of figuring myself through is going to have to rest with me, and I intend to follow through with my pdoc on Friday. I pray she listens to me. This appointment will actually be the first one I will feel like I can tell her exactly what's going on with my moods, my cycling, and possible ADD. Ususally my sessions include me saying everything's ok, when the fact of the matter is, it is not. Please wish me luck that she is responsive-this is extremely important to me to bring this, among the other issues up to her.
I am also going to do some searches myself on ADD and get some more info-I do not know much about ADD, and the chance I may have it never crossed my mind! The symptoms you described in your post were something I could definately relate to. I have always been ancy/hyper since I was a kid-maybe ADD has been my problem all along, it sure is a possibility.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Thanks again, Kristen
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Kristen, I'm off to work & have some errands to look after when I'm off, but when I get a moment, either tonight or the next night, I'll post some more info for you that, hopefully, will get you on the right track in trying to figure this out better. It took me a while & lots of 'detective' work on my part to figure out why I think & act the way I do. Now that I know, I'm still trying to fine tune myself to get myself 'working' the way I'd like to be. It's a never-ending quest. ^_^
I'll see what I can do to help, but the job of figuring yourself through is going to have to rest with you.
Posted by cybercafe on March 24, 2003, at 21:14:55
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » IsoM, posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 0:41:35
hmmm... well i saw different docs for 6 years before depression became bipolar became finally bipolar + ADD!
how about these for obvious symptoms:
1) really bothered by waiting in line or for bus or for red light but other people don't seem to mind
2) you know people who seem much more ill than yourself (continually hallucinating) and they have no problems with holding down a good job while you absolutely detest sitting still
(this kind of tipped it off for me)from what i understand it, you get rid of the depression, and if concentration problems still persist, it's ADD!
> Hi there, thank you for such a kind post. Ya know, I am beginning to wonder about ADD, I relate to what you say here 110% ADD has never come up concerning me though, do you think I should ask my doc?? I am concerned now, not from your post, but because I think there's something a little more going on here.
> What do you think?
> Thanks again
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Kristen, I wonder if you may not have ADD. You want to know what's going on with you & your mind/brain & you can't rest until you find as much as possible. It's almost like an obsession that won't let stop until you're thoroughly sick of the whole thing or found the answers you want.
> >
> > I don't think you're obsessed about 'yourself' - more so the reasons for why you act, think, or feel as you do that you're trying to figure out. If all the answers were given to you, it made sense to you, & you could take actions to change what you wish to change, you'd probably be satisfied & stop asking.
> >
> > When I want to learn about something I don't understand enough of, I can't do it by half measures. I work it to death. I read & read, ask questions, observe, & even dream about it. When I'm satisfied, I move on. It's normal for someone with ADD to get too single-minded over a project. We over-focus on what interests us at that time, sometimes to the exclusion of other things that might need looking after.
> >
> > So ask yourself if you've ever done that with anything else before. If yes, it may just be the ADD making you act like this.
>
>
Posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 22:43:59
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE, posted by cybercafe on March 24, 2003, at 21:14:55
Whooooaaaaaaa. I know that after my ECT treatments, my concentration became very difficult when I went back to college. I was thinking this tonight: 1st came depression, then I was diagnosed with BP II. To me, and I agree,(and was told by a pdoc at UCI, CA, in 1997) that I was a rapid cycler. And now, I am really wondering about ADD!
As far as the answers to the obvious symptoms:
Yes-knowing I am not being impatient at times, I do get really bothered by waiting in line or for a red light but other people don't seem to mind
#2 is a carbon copy of me. I detest sitting still, always have, and at 32, still do.
So does ADD have more to do with personality or a chemical imbalance?
I still will do a search, and thanks for your help,
Kristen
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> hmmm... well i saw different docs for 6 years before depression became bipolar became finally bipolar + ADD!
>
> how about these for obvious symptoms:
>
> 1) really bothered by waiting in line or for bus or for red light but other people don't seem to mind
>
> 2) you know people who seem much more ill than yourself (continually hallucinating) and they have no problems with holding down a good job while you absolutely detest sitting still
> (this kind of tipped it off for me)
>
> from what i understand it, you get rid of the depression, and if concentration problems still persist, it's ADD!
>
>
>
> > Hi there, thank you for such a kind post. Ya know, I am beginning to wonder about ADD, I relate to what you say here 110% ADD has never come up concerning me though, do you think I should ask my doc?? I am concerned now, not from your post, but because I think there's something a little more going on here.
> > What do you think?
> > Thanks again
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > Kristen, I wonder if you may not have ADD. You want to know what's going on with you & your mind/brain & you can't rest until you find as much as possible. It's almost like an obsession that won't let stop until you're thoroughly sick of the whole thing or found the answers you want.
> > >
> > > I don't think you're obsessed about 'yourself' - more so the reasons for why you act, think, or feel as you do that you're trying to figure out. If all the answers were given to you, it made sense to you, & you could take actions to change what you wish to change, you'd probably be satisfied & stop asking.
> > >
> > > When I want to learn about something I don't understand enough of, I can't do it by half measures. I work it to death. I read & read, ask questions, observe, & even dream about it. When I'm satisfied, I move on. It's normal for someone with ADD to get too single-minded over a project. We over-focus on what interests us at that time, sometimes to the exclusion of other things that might need looking after.
> > >
> > > So ask yourself if you've ever done that with anything else before. If yes, it may just be the ADD making you act like this.
> >
> >
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Posted by cybercafe on March 24, 2003, at 23:17:58
In reply to Re: PLEASE, PLEASE REPLY ANYONE » cybercafe, posted by Krissy P on March 24, 2003, at 22:43:59
> Whooooaaaaaaa. I know that after my ECT treatments, my concentration became very difficult when I went back to college. I was thinking this tonight: 1st came depression, then I was diagnosed with BP II. To me, and I agree,(and was told by a pdoc at UCI, CA, in 1997) that I was a rapid cycler. And now, I am really wondering about ADD!
funny you should mention that... and i'm sure your doc knows better than me.. but just to give you something to think about ... i was diagnosed with ultra rapid cycling when i showed up to a pdoc's office in london with $300 and said "hi, i think i'm an ultra rapid cycler" .. and that turns out to be totally wrong! ... the reason my moods went from depressed to interested/happy all within the period of a day was because of the ADD
... but then i think bipolar = atypical depression = mood reactivity = response to pleasurable situations = ADD
.... i guess the question again comes down to how your attention is when you are euthymic or manicwho knows ... as long as we have options.. different things to think about.. different things to try ... there is a good chance for a better life
> As far as the answers to the obvious symptoms:
> Yes-knowing I am not being impatient at times, I do get really bothered by waiting in line or for a red light but other people don't seem to mind
> #2 is a carbon copy of me. I detest sitting still, always have, and at 32, still do.
> So does ADD have more to do with personality or a chemical imbalance?
> I still will do a search, and thanks for your help,
> Kristen
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > hmmm... well i saw different docs for 6 years before depression became bipolar became finally bipolar + ADD!
> >
> > how about these for obvious symptoms:
> >
> > 1) really bothered by waiting in line or for bus or for red light but other people don't seem to mind
> >
> > 2) you know people who seem much more ill than yourself (continually hallucinating) and they have no problems with holding down a good job while you absolutely detest sitting still
> > (this kind of tipped it off for me)
> >
> > from what i understand it, you get rid of the depression, and if concentration problems still persist, it's ADD!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi there, thank you for such a kind post. Ya know, I am beginning to wonder about ADD, I relate to what you say here 110% ADD has never come up concerning me though, do you think I should ask my doc?? I am concerned now, not from your post, but because I think there's something a little more going on here.
> > > What do you think?
> > > Thanks again
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > > Kristen, I wonder if you may not have ADD. You want to know what's going on with you & your mind/brain & you can't rest until you find as much as possible. It's almost like an obsession that won't let stop until you're thoroughly sick of the whole thing or found the answers you want.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you're obsessed about 'yourself' - more so the reasons for why you act, think, or feel as you do that you're trying to figure out. If all the answers were given to you, it made sense to you, & you could take actions to change what you wish to change, you'd probably be satisfied & stop asking.
> > > >
> > > > When I want to learn about something I don't understand enough of, I can't do it by half measures. I work it to death. I read & read, ask questions, observe, & even dream about it. When I'm satisfied, I move on. It's normal for someone with ADD to get too single-minded over a project. We over-focus on what interests us at that time, sometimes to the exclusion of other things that might need looking after.
> > > >
> > > > So ask yourself if you've ever done that with anything else before. If yes, it may just be the ADD making you act like this.
> > >
> > >
> >
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