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Posted by Rainbowlight on February 24, 2003, at 19:29:36
Your right, I am going to have to try the Elavil all by itself tonight, without the Ativan. Especially since I see the pdoc this Friday, I need to be able to tell her. I feel so awful, depressed, blah. The good days of energy and bubbly (Remeron and Zoloft) are gone. I don't know what to do. Maybe I SHOULD go back on the Remeron and live with being overweight. I hate the way I feel. DO you think a Zoloft increase would help? I am back to that merely existing feeling again. And the obsessing is back (the mental nonstop anxiety type obsessing). I had that beat too, now it's back. SO frustrating. I don't have a clue.
Posted by Ritch on February 24, 2003, at 22:41:24
In reply to Ritch, posted by Rainbowlight on February 24, 2003, at 19:29:36
> Your right, I am going to have to try the Elavil all by itself tonight, without the Ativan. Especially since I see the pdoc this Friday, I need to be able to tell her. I feel so awful, depressed, blah. The good days of energy and bubbly (Remeron and Zoloft) are gone. I don't know what to do. Maybe I SHOULD go back on the Remeron and live with being overweight. I hate the way I feel. DO you think a Zoloft increase would help? I am back to that merely existing feeling again. And the obsessing is back (the mental nonstop anxiety type obsessing). I had that beat too, now it's back. SO frustrating. I don't have a clue.
Well for starters, do you feel zoned out in the mornings when you get up after taking your Elavil? It is pretty sedative for most, but you seem to tolerate sedative meds very well. When I was prescribed Elavil (10mg bid) back in the early '80's, I slept great and had reduced anxiety, but I lacked any spontaneity. People I worked with complained to me that I didn't have much of anything to say and that I was becoming *boring*. That's weird because I remember my focus increasing on the stuff. That's the kind of complaints I have heard when I was taking Adderall! I still think that your current probs with rumination have most to do with benzo withdrawal. Serious. Perhaps it would be best to continue a benzo?? OH, something they make still or not I don't know but they used to make "Limbitrol" tablets which were chlordiazepoxide+amitriptyline (Librium+Elavil), and those worked great for insomnia and anxiety. Librium has a long half-life. Maybe you could try one of those at bedtime? From what I remember they had several combos of AMI and LIB dosages.
Posted by Rainbowlight on February 25, 2003, at 0:17:02
In reply to Re: Ritch » Rainbowlight, posted by Ritch on February 24, 2003, at 22:41:24
Well tonight is my first trial run without Ativan at bedtime. Will take the Elavil only and see what happens. I am just blah, no interest in anything, none of the usual things I get excited about. Don't really feel like talking (like you mentioned). Just yuck! Not bad depression, but I definately think low level depression. Basically I feel the way I normally do unmedicated. If I am gonna feel this crappy what's the use in the meds, lol! Seriously though? I sure hope she has some great idea on Friday.
Posted by Ritch on February 25, 2003, at 9:57:11
In reply to Re: Ritch, posted by Rainbowlight on February 25, 2003, at 0:17:02
> Well tonight is my first trial run without Ativan at bedtime. Will take the Elavil only and see what happens. I am just blah, no interest in anything, none of the usual things I get excited about. Don't really feel like talking (like you mentioned). Just yuck! Not bad depression, but I definately think low level depression. Basically I feel the way I normally do unmedicated. If I am gonna feel this crappy what's the use in the meds, lol! Seriously though? I sure hope she has some great idea on Friday.
Your pdoc may interpret this as improved mood stability! :) How's the ruminating, decreasing some? Could be you are starting to get over the benzo withdrawal. I've gotten ideas previously along the lines of what do I need this crap for? I would wonder about that until I accidentally skipped a dose or two of lithium or switched my Depakote and holy sh*t!
Posted by Rainbowlight on February 25, 2003, at 19:26:05
In reply to Re: Ritch » Rainbowlight, posted by Ritch on February 25, 2003, at 9:57:11
I won't quit my meds, just venting and frustrated. Sleeping on Elavil alone did not work. Tried it for an hour. Finally got up and took 2 Benadryl, still took another couple hours to get to sleep. So the Elavil is not going to work. I still feel cruddy. Wook up so irritated this morning, angry. After I take the Ativan I calm down a bit, but still don't feel good (unhappy, down). But once the Ativan wears off I feel agitated again. Like a bad roller coaster. I am dreaming of my old combo now. Thinking being overweight might be worth the tradeoff. I am wondering if I only took maybe 5 mgs. of Remeron if I would still have the weight gain problem. I can't seem to find an answer to that one. Thank you so much for listening to me through all this. You are the only one who understands because you've gone through it.
Posted by Ritch on February 25, 2003, at 23:36:15
In reply to Re: Ritch, posted by Rainbowlight on February 25, 2003, at 19:26:05
> I won't quit my meds, just venting and frustrated. Sleeping on Elavil alone did not work. Tried it for an hour. Finally got up and took 2 Benadryl, still took another couple hours to get to sleep. So the Elavil is not going to work. I still feel cruddy. Wook up so irritated this morning, angry. After I take the Ativan I calm down a bit, but still don't feel good (unhappy, down). But once the Ativan wears off I feel agitated again. Like a bad roller coaster. I am dreaming of my old combo now. Thinking being overweight might be worth the tradeoff. I am wondering if I only took maybe 5 mgs. of Remeron if I would still have the weight gain problem. I can't seem to find an answer to that one. Thank you so much for listening to me through all this. You are the only one who understands because you've gone through it.
Hey, what about that Topamax add to your Lamictal and Zoloft without any benzos or Elavil? You could LOSE weight on that and maybe get some of the benefits of the Remeron and *maybe* sleep well. Lots of IFs there-maybe it is worth mentioning?
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