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Posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 16:43:12
Had the pharmacist call round today to replace all my Neurontin...even my xtra supply.
I asked why..they seemed vague-said something in it.
What ?
Is it just precaution..what have I been taking.
I also have no xtra supply now:(
?
Posted by Dinah on February 3, 2003, at 17:47:44
In reply to My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 16:43:12
Goodness, how unsettling. Who makes Neurontin, can you check their website?
Posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 18:35:03
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » dreamerz, posted by Dinah on February 3, 2003, at 17:47:44
> Goodness, how unsettling. Who makes Neurontin, can you check their website?
Can't find any info..just curious how common this is.
Maybe I got a placebo batch : )
Strange to get a visit though...
Posted by Jacob on February 3, 2003, at 18:56:17
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » Dinah, posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 18:35:03
> > Goodness, how unsettling. Who makes Neurontin, can you check their website?
>
> Can't find any info..just curious how common this is.
> Maybe I got a placebo batch : )
> Strange to get a visit though...
>EXTREMELY STRANGE. Where are you? Never heard of druggest's making house calls.
Posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 18:58:44
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by Jacob on February 3, 2003, at 18:56:17
> EXTREMELY STRANGE. Where are you? Never heard of druggest's making house calls.I'm in the UK.
Posted by djmmm on February 3, 2003, at 21:37:48
In reply to My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 16:43:12
HMMMMMM...Pfizer makes Neurontin...Im not surprised...Warner Lambert is the parent company of Pfizer and Parke-Davis, they recalled Nardil a few months back...now Neurontin...I dont know what their problem is, but I do know they have an EXTENSIVE history of recalling meds and non-compliance to manufacturing standards.
Posted by Ritch on February 3, 2003, at 23:55:31
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by djmmm on February 3, 2003, at 21:37:48
> HMMMMMM...Pfizer makes Neurontin...Im not surprised...Warner Lambert is the parent company of Pfizer and Parke-Davis, they recalled Nardil a few months back...now Neurontin...I dont know what their problem is, but I do know they have an EXTENSIVE history of recalling meds and non-compliance to manufacturing standards.
>
This sounds rather like a clever way to draw attention to the medication for marketing purposes, instead of a clear-cut problem with the med itself. That just happened to be what I thought about the "lack of Nardil" situation I read about here previously. If there was nothing *really* wrong with the medication, but if there was a "pseudo-issue" that might crop up that generates a lot of "chatter" about it, then it could serve to help market the drug because it would "reintroduce" to anyone who is searching about it (on the net), all of the possible uses of it, and it would make the manufacturer seem more credible and interested in public safety (another selling item).
Posted by Tabitha on February 4, 2003, at 1:27:33
In reply to My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by dreamerz on February 3, 2003, at 16:43:12
I hear the Neurontin Elves have been disguising themselves as pharmacists and going door to door, swapping out unsuspecting folks' meds for pixie dust. Just open up those capsules and look for sparkles.
I'm so helpful.
Posted by dreamerz on February 4, 2003, at 5:39:29
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » dreamerz, posted by Tabitha on February 4, 2003, at 1:27:33
'You make me feel so young ...you make me feel like spring has s~p~r~u~n~g' BOING.
Wow..had a dream I was in a hot desert but it was snowing~I flew through the cooling flakes..
What have I been prescribed--
Wonder though if it was a dosage problem.
Posted by djmmm on February 4, 2003, at 7:38:59
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » djmmm, posted by Ritch on February 3, 2003, at 23:55:31
> > HMMMMMM...Pfizer makes Neurontin...Im not surprised...Warner Lambert is the parent company of Pfizer and Parke-Davis, they recalled Nardil a few months back...now Neurontin...I dont know what their problem is, but I do know they have an EXTENSIVE history of recalling meds and non-compliance to manufacturing standards.
> >
>
>
> This sounds rather like a clever way to draw attention to the medication for marketing purposes, instead of a clear-cut problem with the med itself. That just happened to be what I thought about the "lack of Nardil" situation I read about here previously. If there was nothing *really* wrong with the medication, but if there was a "pseudo-issue" that might crop up that generates a lot of "chatter" about it, then it could serve to help market the drug because it would "reintroduce" to anyone who is searching about it (on the net), all of the possible uses of it, and it would make the manufacturer seem more credible and interested in public safety (another selling item).
>http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/NEW00430.html
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ENFORCE/ENF00458.html
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ENFORCE/2001/ENF00721.html
Posted by Ritch on February 4, 2003, at 9:27:57
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by djmmm on February 4, 2003, at 7:38:59
> > > HMMMMMM...Pfizer makes Neurontin...Im not surprised...Warner Lambert is the parent company of Pfizer and Parke-Davis, they recalled Nardil a few months back...now Neurontin...I dont know what their problem is, but I do know they have an EXTENSIVE history of recalling meds and non-compliance to manufacturing standards.
> > >
> >
> >
> > This sounds rather like a clever way to draw attention to the medication for marketing purposes, instead of a clear-cut problem with the med itself. That just happened to be what I thought about the "lack of Nardil" situation I read about here previously. If there was nothing *really* wrong with the medication, but if there was a "pseudo-issue" that might crop up that generates a lot of "chatter" about it, then it could serve to help market the drug because it would "reintroduce" to anyone who is searching about it (on the net), all of the possible uses of it, and it would make the manufacturer seem more credible and interested in public safety (another selling item).
> >
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> http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/NEW00430.html
> http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ENFORCE/ENF00458.html
> http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ENFORCE/2001/ENF00721.html
Thanks, that was certainly an eye-opener. Imagine what you might be getting if there wasn't any kind of enforcement at all. It sounds like the quality issues are being skimped (or failing to be solved) to shore up the bottom line. It would be kind of interesting to know about the pharm. companies that have the *least* amount of quality problems and the least writeups for marketing no-no's.
Posted by Alan on February 4, 2003, at 11:34:37
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by djmmm on February 3, 2003, at 21:37:48
> HMMMMMM...Pfizer makes Neurontin...Im not surprised...Warner Lambert is the parent company of Pfizer and Parke-Davis, they recalled Nardil a few months back...now Neurontin...I dont know what their problem is, but I do know they have an EXTENSIVE history of recalling meds and non-compliance to manufacturing standards.
>
=============================================Systematic enforcement is practically nil. Quality control in pharmaceutical manufacturing takes place almost entirely on the honor system, with on-site FDA inspections and checks taking place once every few years unless a problem is reported. (Your local gas pump undergoes government inspection more frequently than pharmaceutical manufacturing lines.)
No doubt most companies and facilities try to act in good faith, but there's a lot of mediocrity in the world, not to mention incompetence, and companies aren't going to be quick to report their own failures if they think the effects can go unnoticed.By the way, even when there are plant inspections, there is an allowable 20 - 25% varience *either way* in potency (you guess which way the potency would probably lean). That, it seems, would be critical when regulating and titrating doses of the medication I take, bzds.
Alan
Posted by utopizen on February 4, 2003, at 13:19:23
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » dreamerz, posted by Tabitha on February 4, 2003, at 1:27:33
> I hear the Neurontin Elves have been disguising themselves as pharmacists and going door to door, swapping out unsuspecting folks' meds for pixie dust. Just open up those capsules and look for sparkles.
>
> I'm so helpful.Heh. I thought I was the only one who hacked open capsules and looked at sparkles.
Posted by Tabitha on February 5, 2003, at 3:23:42
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » Tabitha, posted by dreamerz on February 4, 2003, at 5:39:29
clearly the elves got you... their concoctions always cause dreams of snow. 'Tis a documented side effect. http://www.elfmeds.org/pixie-dust-neurontin.html
Posted by dreamerz on February 5, 2003, at 15:14:51
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch » dreamerz, posted by Tabitha on February 5, 2003, at 3:23:42
Posted by dreamerz on February 5, 2003, at 19:12:42
In reply to Re: My Neurontin has been recalled-bad batch, posted by Alan on February 4, 2003, at 11:34:37
I think the bad batch was the real thing , potent Gabapentin...
grrrrrr
Posted by dreamerz on February 6, 2003, at 0:58:08
In reply to Re: Link Doesn't work Tabykittypips : ( (nm) » Tabitha, posted by dreamerz on February 5, 2003, at 15:14:51
Posted by dreamerz on February 6, 2003, at 0:59:40
In reply to Re: Now I feel foolish___(';') (nm) » dreamerz, posted by dreamerz on February 6, 2003, at 0:58:08
Posted by Tabitha on February 7, 2003, at 3:21:17
In reply to Re: Even more so now as I've posted to myself (nm), posted by dreamerz on February 6, 2003, at 0:59:40
Posted by dreamerz on February 7, 2003, at 8:02:53
In reply to Re: my fault. evil me. never again I promise (nm) » dreamerz, posted by Tabitha on February 7, 2003, at 3:21:17
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