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Posted by Jumpy on January 22, 2003, at 19:32:12
Hey Everyone,
I gain so much weight on nardil ... about 30 lbs. total ... I am worried I will end up with diabetes. Anyone out there take nardil for an extended period of time? Did you develope diabetes? thanks
Jumpy
Posted by cosis on January 22, 2003, at 21:21:06
In reply to Nardil and Diabetes, posted by Jumpy on January 22, 2003, at 19:32:12
Quick question - Do you eat a lot each day? If so what is a typical day's meals?
Posted by Jumpy on January 23, 2003, at 17:00:28
In reply to Re: Nardil and Diabetes, posted by cosis on January 22, 2003, at 21:21:06
> Quick question - Do you eat a lot each day? If so what is a typical day's meals?
I ate a real lot ... had severe carbohydrate cravings. This was a typical day:
Wake up at 4 AM with severe hunger pains. Toss and turn for 2 hours, unable to sleep, still very very hungry. Finally get up at 6 and have a bowl of cereal. Sleep to 7. Get up have a cup of coffee and bagel for breakfast. Severe hunger pains start about 10 AM. Get to lunch about 12 and have a "subway's" sandwich, chips and diet coke. Maybe to the coffee shop after that and have coffee and a brownie. After work, severe hunger pains, maybe buy a 50 cent little debbie brownie. For dinner, some spagetti with salad and diet soda.
I have wondered if some of this is due to the fact that nardil makes my blood sugar low. My finger stick blood glucose is routinely around 70. So maybe this is the body's physiologic way of fighting off hypoglycemia.
So, my portions are too big and too much carbs ... but I have to. I get physical pain without the food. Off the medication, all of that goes away and I lose most of the weight I had gained.
Jumpy
Posted by cosis on January 23, 2003, at 18:59:38
In reply to Re: Nardil and Diabetes » cosis, posted by Jumpy on January 23, 2003, at 17:00:28
Do you exercise at all? Lifting weights will help burn calories... This really doesn't sound like much food to me.. I had problems with binging on sweets like you wouldn't believe but I think my exercising 3x a week helps me stay at a certain weight
Posted by djmmm on January 23, 2003, at 19:02:54
In reply to Re: Nardil and Diabetes » cosis, posted by Jumpy on January 23, 2003, at 17:00:28
There have been numerous studies concerning the effect of MAO inhibition and the resulting effects on glucose and insulin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7713850&dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1090438&dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=411669&dopt=Abstract
Inhibition by hydrazine, phenelzine and pargyline of insulin release from rat pancreas.
Endocrinology. 1971 Jul;89(1):125-9.Possible role of hydrazine group in hypoglycemia associated with the use of certain monoamine-oxidase inhibitors (MAOI's).
Diabetes. 1969 Aug;18(8):538-41.Monoamineoxidase inhibition and insulin sensitivity.
J Endocrinol. 1968 Nov;42(3):417-23.Influence of IMAO on glycemic equilibrium: potentiation of insulinic hypoglycemia by beta-phenyl-ethyl-hydrazine (Nardil)]
G Psichiatr Neuropatol. 1968;96(1):29-43[On the antidiabetic effect of phenelzine]
Clin Ter. 1967 Sep 15;42(5):443-8.Potentiation of insulin hypoglycaemia by M.A.O.I. antidepressant drugs.
Lancet. 1966 Feb 19;1(7434):407-9
Posted by Jumpy on January 23, 2003, at 20:24:44
In reply to Re: Nardil and Diabetes, posted by cosis on January 23, 2003, at 18:59:38
When my schedule allowed, there were periods where I exercised for 6 to 8 weeks at a time. During those periods I did maintain my steady "overweight" frame. I couldn't budge lower 210 lbs. Also, I noticed during these period, my hunger increased tremendously .... making me eat more .... off setting the benefits of the exercise for weight loss. Once again, if I stopped the nardil or even decreased to 52.5 mg per day, I lose all the weight. So it was almost take the good with the bad .... in order to get a good mood, I had to have the weight gain.
Jumpy
Posted by ace on January 23, 2003, at 21:52:27
In reply to Nardil and Diabetes, posted by Jumpy on January 22, 2003, at 19:32:12
Just thought I'd let you guys know -- 2 months on Nardil & the food cravings are coming on. I'm eating a lot of chocolate sweets. Give me a day and I'm through a whole Snickers spread paste. Buying chocolate bars and choc chip muffins too. Looks like my slim body maybe will finally see some meat on it!
Posted by cosis on January 23, 2003, at 22:58:09
In reply to Re: Nardil and Diabetes, posted by ace on January 23, 2003, at 21:52:27
lol the best thing to do is not to buy them! you can't eat what you don't have!
:)
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