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Posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
I have been getting treatment for Panic Disorder for the past 7-8 years and my new psychiatrist is cool. I was telling her about some bad job experiences from the past and that I am currently unemployed. I have been on interviews etc.., but I am looking in another field.
She asked if I minded if she made some constructive and possibly offensive criticism. I said no problem, I like to grow.
She told me that there are alot of issues that she thinks I still have with my family? Whats new? I hope that this will be constructive and not some technique to get me in for weekly sessions?
Has any had any CBT for being neurotic? She told me that she is an oddball to and is going to try and help me with my career, but it was kind of scary when she told me I have some serious issues to work out?
I have a great immediate family, I am good to my wife and kids, but my upbringing sucked. I got through school and have had professional jobs but things are not working out lately. Any ideas about the "Neurotic" label. I am hoping that this will be constructive?
Thanks
jda
Posted by Alara on October 24, 2002, at 22:23:58
In reply to My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
jda, that label will be your worst enemy if you allow it to stick. An effective cognitive therapy will teach you to view yourself not as "neurotic", but as an intelligent husband/father with who is experiencing a few difficulties at the moment.
I recommend that you read a book called `Feeling Good' by David D. Burns. Every time I start to feel down on myself in the way that you describe, I open up that book and challenge my cognitive distortions. It's amazing how effective it can be!
Alara
Just Another Human Being
Posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 22:54:26
In reply to You're not a `Neurotic'; you're a `Human Being'., posted by Alara on October 24, 2002, at 22:23:58
Thanks for the positive message. I was really floored by the message from my doc. I am going to get that book and see her thurs. I hope that she is going to be positive when my defenses are down. I haven't had 'tough love' in years, I am not sure that I am up to it. I might blow her off if it gets offensive.
Maybe thinking like this is part of the problem? I am not sure when talking with pdocs?
Thanks,
jda
> jda, that label will be your worst enemy if you allow it to stick. An effective cognitive therapy will teach you to view yourself not as "neurotic", but as an intelligent husband/father with who is experiencing a few difficulties at the moment.
>
> I recommend that you read a book called `Feeling Good' by David D. Burns. Every time I start to feel down on myself in the way that you describe, I open up that book and challenge my cognitive distortions. It's amazing how effective it can be!
>
> Alara
> Just Another Human Being
Posted by KathyA on October 25, 2002, at 1:40:24
In reply to My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
> I have been getting treatment for Panic Disorder for the past 7-8 years and my new psychiatrist is cool. I was telling her about some bad job experiences from the past and that I am currently unemployed. I have been on interviews etc.., but I am looking in another field.
>
> She asked if I minded if she made some constructive and possibly offensive criticism. I said no problem, I like to grow.
>
> She told me that there are alot of issues that she thinks I still have with my family? Whats new? I hope that this will be constructive and not some technique to get me in for weekly sessions?
>
> Has any had any CBT for being neurotic? She told me that she is an oddball to and is going to try and help me with my career, but it was kind of scary when she told me I have some serious issues to work out?
>
> I have a great immediate family, I am good to my wife and kids, but my upbringing sucked. I got through school and have had professional jobs but things are not working out lately. Any ideas about the "Neurotic" label. I am hoping that this will be constructive?
>
> Thanks
>
> jdajda,
Your doctor may have been using the term to define where you are, i.e., versus "psychotic" or "disordered". The best thing to do is just to ask her.
Kathy
Posted by glenn on October 25, 2002, at 7:02:39
In reply to My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
Hi , dont worry you are not alone, I was called this by an endocrinologist. The idea of cbt is not a bad one, but bear in mind that a lot of docs and therapists can project their own feelings of frustration about not having helped you onto you.
Take it from a trained psychotherapist, it happens.Glenn
Posted by Roman on October 25, 2002, at 10:46:54
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by glenn on October 25, 2002, at 7:02:39
Posted by jda1292 on October 25, 2002, at 11:15:10
In reply to My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
Thanks Everybody!
This site is great and you guys are awesome!
Posted by Phil on October 25, 2002, at 18:56:12
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 25, 2002, at 11:15:10
In The Road Less Travelled, Scott Peck said there are basically 2 kinds of people.
Neurotics, when something goes wrong in their life, blame themselves.
Character disordered people under the same circumstances, always blame someone or something for their problem. I know lot's of these people.
Neurotics are better to work with because they recognize they may need change in areas.
Character disordered people, who rarely visit a mental health professional, are incredibly hard to work with because they don't take any responsibility.
I'm neurotic and always have been..no big deal.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 26, 2002, at 11:04:45
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic? » jda1292, posted by Phil on October 25, 2002, at 18:56:12
> I recommend that you read a book called `Feeling Good' by David D. Burns.
>
> Alara> In The Road Less Travelled, Scott Peck said there are basically 2 kinds of people...
>
> PhilI'd just like to plug the new double double quote feature. But I don't mean to be pushy. Did you deliberately not use it to link to Amazon? If so, I'd be interested in why, over at PBA:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Phil on October 26, 2002, at 19:07:02
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic? » jda1292, posted by Phil on October 25, 2002, at 18:56:12
In "The Road Less Travelled", Scott Peck said there are basically 2 kinds of people.
Posted by Alara on October 26, 2002, at 21:16:37
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by Phil on October 26, 2002, at 19:07:02
Oops, sorry! I forgot all about that. The name of the book by David Burns is ""Feeling Good"".
Posted by Alara on October 26, 2002, at 21:19:24
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by Alara on October 26, 2002, at 21:16:37
I'm not going to label myself as stupid. :-)
Posted by jda1292 on October 26, 2002, at 21:56:52
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by Alara on October 26, 2002, at 21:16:37
I read the Dr. Peck book awhile ago. I will have to find it and give it another read. I am going to focus on my life and getting things done. I do not have the time for getting freudian with this doc. She is well intentioned but not correct.
I need to stay on my meds, just went back to Paxil with kp .5 x 3 a day and start living and stop worrying.
Thanks all!
Posted by sleepy lizard on October 27, 2002, at 0:15:50
In reply to Re: My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by Alara on October 26, 2002, at 21:16:37
There is a Feeling Good Handbook by Dr. Burns that I think is better than the non-handbook version. It covers medications too. It is an excellent book.
Posted by bookgurl99 on October 27, 2002, at 20:28:35
In reply to My Psychiatrist told me I was neurotic?, posted by jda1292 on October 24, 2002, at 18:06:35
Sufferers of "neurasthenia" were thought to be unusually intelligent, though possessing highly sensitive, fragile, 'nerves.' The cure for them was to rest in bed and have all needs taken care of by others for 6 weeks. :D
LOL.
Posted by jda1292 on October 28, 2002, at 8:53:45
In reply to be neurasthenic instead » jda1292, posted by bookgurl99 on October 27, 2002, at 20:28:35
> Sufferers of "neurasthenia" were thought to be unusually intelligent, though possessing highly sensitive, fragile, 'nerves.' The cure for them was to rest in bed and have all needs taken care of by others for 6 weeks. :D
>
> LOL.I am going to try this! It may cause some marital strife, but I think this is more of what I was looking for.
LOL, jda
Posted by fachad on October 30, 2002, at 9:15:35
In reply to be neurasthenic instead » jda1292, posted by bookgurl99 on October 27, 2002, at 20:28:35
My Pdoc actually told me I was neurasthenic!
He said that the diagnosis was not used much any more, and that he could not code it into my records, because there was no check box for it on the insurance forms.
Nevertheless, he maintained that it was "really" my diagnosis, DSM and HMO's be dammed!
> Sufferers of "neurasthenia" were thought to be unusually intelligent, though possessing highly sensitive, fragile, 'nerves.' The cure for them was to rest in bed and have all needs taken care of by others for 6 weeks. :D
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> LOL.
>
>
Posted by Ç(r)ëëþý Tabitha on October 31, 2002, at 1:22:18
In reply to My Pdoc told me I was neurasthenic!, posted by fachad on October 30, 2002, at 9:15:35
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