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Posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 13:18:42
Knowing what to expect helps greatly. One symptom of clonazepam withdrawal is out of body experience. I am in one now, but I do not panic. God is with me, and assures me that what I'm doing is the right thing. God does not wish us to take this man made prescription. The only reason to take it is to get off it, and listen to Him. Be not afraid. Go with His power. You will prevail. He has something to tell you. Stop taking it now, and listen.
Posted by ADJ on September 19, 2002, at 13:52:26
In reply to I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 13:18:42
Good for you, but just so you know, this does seem to be putting people down on medication. Please dont :(
> Knowing what to expect helps greatly. One symptom of clonazepam withdrawal is out of body experience. I am in one now, but I do not panic. God is with me, and assures me that what I'm doing is the right thing. God does not wish us to take this man made prescription. The only reason to take it is to get off it, and listen to Him. Be not afraid. Go with His power. You will prevail. He has something to tell you. Stop taking it now, and listen.
>
Posted by JaneB on September 19, 2002, at 14:20:19
In reply to I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 13:18:42
> Knowing what to expect helps greatly. One symptom of clonazepam withdrawal is out of body experience. I am in one now, but I do not panic. God is with me, and assures me that what I'm doing is the right thing. God does not wish us to take this man made prescription. The only reason to take it is to get off it, and listen to Him. Be not afraid. Go with His power. You will prevail. He has something to tell you. Stop taking it now, and listen.
How much were you taking? Why would my pdoc tell me that I could stop cold turkey after 2 years on .50mg without any problem? Has anyone else on this board heard of out of body experiences from discontinuation?
JaneB
Posted by crepuscular on September 19, 2002, at 15:19:12
In reply to I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 13:18:42
I am winning the fight *with* klon. My God has instructed me to use all available resources and technologies to have a stable productive life.
c.
Posted by Phil on September 19, 2002, at 17:37:42
In reply to Re: I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by crepuscular on September 19, 2002, at 15:19:12
God made doctors, patients, and pills. Unfortunately, he also made dentists. When I get my teefers worked on, I want lots of gas and as much painkiller as they can pump into me. I'm sure those drugs are much like Klonopin, but I like Klonopin after suffering most of my life w/ crippling anxiety that only a near overdose on beer could stop. And you better believe, next root canal, if I hear God tell me I don't need pain meds, we're going to have a nasty argument.
I'm happy you are getting off of it if that's what you feel is right. What you feel is what's important. But just in case you need another drug, it's not your fault, God wants joy and serenity and he knows what people have suffered through on this board and elsewhere.
What's the religion that let's their children die because it's against their beliefs to have operations or transfusions or such?
God is screaming from above to help that child live. I saw an interview with a couple like that years ago and if I could have jumped into my TV, they wouldn't have lived to make that decision.A very sleepy Phil
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 19, 2002, at 18:54:20
In reply to Re: I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Phil on September 19, 2002, at 17:37:42
> God is screaming from above to help that child live.
I'd like those who'd like to discuss God to do that at Psycho-Babble Faith -- and to take extra care there to respect the views of others, to be sensitive to the feelings of others, and not to post anything that could lead others to feel put down. Thanks,
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding posting policies, and complaints about posts, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 22:38:11
In reply to Is this true?, posted by JaneB on September 19, 2002, at 14:20:19
Yes it is true. This is an accurate description of what I experienced. I still am experiencing major problems with vision, motor coordination esp. walking, and difficulty breathing. I think the worst part is over.
I was taking 2 mg per day. I am already at 1 mg because i want to get this pain over with as quickly as possible.
Also, I might add, the last time I tried to discontinue this medication, I experienced the same out of body experience and I ended up in a hospital.
For information about clonapezam, see
http://www.psyweb.com/Drughtm/klonopin.html
For conflicting information, see
http://www.druginfonet.com/klonopin.htm
For alarming information, see
http://199.45.69.176/tony/Corner/M/959.htm
One page's dosage information has dosage info for children, even infants. Another has "for children under 18: <font color="#FF0000">DO NOT USE"</font>.
You figure it out. I can't. I hope this helps.
I don't mean to sound alarmning (and get ANOTHER of my posts redirected), but these are the facts as I understand them, AND, an out of body experience is an ACCURATE description of what I experienced this morning, and a year and a half ago.
WARNING: BOTH OF THE LABORATORY SITES' decriptions have a warning that clonapezam causes CNS depression (whatever that is).
Posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 22:54:51
In reply to Re: I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by ADJ on September 19, 2002, at 13:52:26
I am sorry that you took offense. I do not, and have not, and will not, put anyone taking medications down. If anything, I will advocate for people taking medications, because it 'seems' to me that the medical profession has us all bewildered, including themselves!
Posted by viridis on September 20, 2002, at 0:22:15
In reply to Re: I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 22:54:51
Clonazepam has been a "wonder-drug" for me,and I'll continue to take it for as long as necessary (maybe the rest of my life?). Given the improvement in quality of life, complete lack of side effects, and proven long-term safety of benzos, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Of course, that's just me.
Posted by Simcha on September 20, 2002, at 0:23:09
In reply to Re: Is this true?, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 22:38:11
<<One page's dosage information has dosage info for children, even infants. Another has "for children under 18: DO NOT USE".>>
Many common drugs are contraindicated for infants. Basically many over the counter drugs have this warning too.
<<WARNING: BOTH OF THE LABORATORY SITES' decriptions have a warning that clonapezam causes CNS depression (whatever that is).>>
CNS depression is one of Klonopin's therapeutic advantages. This means that the central nervous system slows down thus reducing anxiety. This is the point of taking Klonopin for many of us. This is what we need. Of course, too much of this is not good for you. Too much of most anything is not good for you.
I'm sorry that you are going through a rough time. It sounds like you are scared to me. It's OK, I've been there.
Take Care,
Simcha
Posted by Phil on September 20, 2002, at 6:37:10
In reply to Re: I am winning fight against Clonazepam, posted by Disillusioned on September 19, 2002, at 22:54:51
I hope you go real slow on tapering. Rushing getting off of this drug sounds fearful and anxious(I need this out of my system now).
I think, from what I've read here, it's best to taper so slow you hardly notice it.
Even if it took a year, at least you won't be in the hospital and you won't get whacked as hard with rebound anxiety.
If you give your body time to adjust very gradually to not using the drug, you could stop the anxiety to a large degree.
One person posted that they would shave off tiny portions of the pill using sandpaper. If I ever decide to get off of it, I'd count the grains under a microscope if it helped.
Just a suggestion. Good luck with it.
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