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Posted by Arthur Gibson on September 14, 2002, at 4:13:00
I would like to ask the panel two questions, both of which have already been answered on this board and I have forgotten both answers because it was not affecting me at the time. Now it is.
1. What causes night time sweating on an SSRI?
2. What can you take to stop it?
After recovering from severe, suicidal depression I suppose I should not complain about a trivial thing like sweating, but as you only live once I may as well try to solve this little problem as well.
Great reading on this board everyone. My thanks to all who contribute, I never miss a day reading it. Its the best source of knowledge about our troubles on the web. Is there nothing that you people cannot solve or fix? Can we nominate Dr. Bob for a Nobel prize for starting this board?
Posted by oracle on September 14, 2002, at 13:14:49
In reply to How do you stop SSRI sweating?, posted by Arthur Gibson on September 14, 2002, at 4:13:00
If you have just started on an AD, this should get
less over time (8 weeks or so).If you have been on this AD for over 2 months I would not expect it to change much. Trying another SSRI would then be the option.
Posted by Phil on September 14, 2002, at 13:46:27
In reply to Re: How do you stop SSRI sweating?, posted by oracle on September 14, 2002, at 13:14:49
I sweat a lot on just about any AD. It doesn't seem to decrease over time. Remember to drink water.
At the bottom of the main page, click on tips. When you get to that page, scroll down the right side of the page and enter sweating in the search box. You'll find several ideas. If what you're on works, don't switch because of sweating unless it's totally ridiculous.
One pdoc I had said night sweats were caused by too much serotonin. You might do a search on that in the tips section also.
Posted by Phil on September 14, 2002, at 13:58:54
In reply to How do you stop SSRI sweating?, posted by Arthur Gibson on September 14, 2002, at 4:13:00
If you are not familiar w/ some of the drugs listed, go to http://www.rxlist.com
Posted by turalizz on September 14, 2002, at 14:24:32
In reply to How do you stop SSRI sweating?, posted by Arthur Gibson on September 14, 2002, at 4:13:00
Posted by rod on September 19, 2002, at 7:30:11
In reply to How do you stop SSRI sweating?, posted by Arthur Gibson on September 14, 2002, at 4:13:00
> I would like to ask the panel two questions, both of which have already been answered on this board and I have forgotten both answers because it was not affecting me at the time. Now it is.
>
> 1. What causes night time sweating on an SSRI?
>
> 2. What can you take to stop it?
>
> After recovering from severe, suicidal depression I suppose I should not complain about a trivial thing like sweating, but as you only live once I may as well try to solve this little problem as well.
>
> Great reading on this board everyone. My thanks to all who contribute, I never miss a day reading it. Its the best source of knowledge about our troubles on the web. Is there nothing that you people cannot solve or fix? Can we nominate Dr. Bob for a Nobel prize for starting this board?
>Hi!
I know a person who takes (prescibed by doc) an extrakt from the Herb "Datura stramonium" for Prozac induced sweating. (that is the latin name of the plant. I only know the german word for it: "Stechapfel").
Maybe you can use this information
bye
rod
Posted by Seamus2 on September 19, 2002, at 9:32:21
In reply to Re: stop SSRI sweating? - (Datura stramonium) » Arthur Gibson, posted by rod on September 19, 2002, at 7:30:11
Out of curiosity, what's the literal translation of "Stechapfel"? (or is there one?)
Posted by rod on September 19, 2002, at 9:39:34
In reply to Re: stop SSRI sweating? - (Datura stramonium), posted by Seamus2 on September 19, 2002, at 9:32:21
> Out of curiosity, what's the literal translation of "Stechapfel"? (or is there one?)
>
>
prick-apple
or stab-apple
Posted by IsoM on September 19, 2002, at 13:16:28
In reply to Re: stop SSRI sweating? - (Datura stramonium) » Seamus2, posted by rod on September 19, 2002, at 9:39:34
Wow, when I saw that Latin name, alarm bells went off in my head. Before anyone decides that this is the herb for their night sweats, I'd like people to be aware what Datura stramonium is.
I know my botany & Latin plant names well - this is jimson weed, or thorn apple. All Daturas (& Brugmansias) are **VERY POISONOUS**. They contain high amounts of alkaloids & lectins. Lectins can cause red blood cells to clump together (agglutinate) & can stimulate abnormal cell division in certain lymphocytes. Alkaloids are still used in medicine today & some of them are atropine, scopolamine, & hyoscyamine. But they can have powerful effects on the central & autonomic nervous system affecting regulation of internal organs, heartbeat, circulation & breathing. This probably accounts for its control of heavy sweating.
But I'd like people to be aware that it not only affects sweating but a myriad of other systems too. It affects various neurotransmitters, so if you're taking other meds, your doctor needs to be aware if you add Datura stramonium extracts for any possible cross reactions.
Before you decide to rush out & buy some from a herbalist, check about. It can cause hallucinations, convulsions, & has caused a number of deaths. Of course, any credible herbalist is going to be using it in very small amounts & in a responsible manner, but please be cautious & use common sense.
Posted by Seamus2 on September 19, 2002, at 22:32:50
In reply to Re: stop SSRI sweating? - (Datura stramonium) » Seamus2, posted by rod on September 19, 2002, at 9:39:34
> prick-apple
> or stab-appleDoh! I should have remembered _Young Frankenstein_ and his schwanzstecher! (sp?)
Thanks.
And IsoM is right -- Datura is nothing to casually fool around with. I once knew a guy who was in hospital for three days because he thought eating a few seeds would get him high.
Seamus
Posted by rod on September 20, 2002, at 5:01:48
In reply to Re: stop SSRI sweating? - (Datura stramonium), posted by Seamus2 on September 19, 2002, at 22:32:50
I didnt intend to tell people to _eat_ it out of the forest.
But getting a controlled extract of it from the pharmacy under supervision of a doctor, wont be fatal.
As you know, most natural poisons, when administered in low doses are used for medical purpose.
but, yes, be carefull, as with any medicine.
Posted by IsoM on September 20, 2002, at 5:43:46
In reply to Re: I didnt intend to tell people to _eat_ it, posted by rod on September 20, 2002, at 5:01:48
Rod, I know you didn't mean for anyone to eat it. After all, you said you were prescribed it by a doctor. The warning wasn't from anything you said, but from the *possibility* of some people, in their enthusiasm for anything & all that's 'natural', to decide that they might be able to self-medicate.
I wanted people to be aware of how dangerous it could be, potentially. It's also sad that there are "herbalists" who'll hang out a sign stating such, but without having real certification. A few will "prescribe" dangerous drugs from plants without being properly aware of how they should be used.
This is why I mentioned that some meds are still used from such plants (but actually now synthesized in labs for purity).
Posted by Kath on September 20, 2002, at 13:15:32
In reply to Re: I didnt intend to tell people to _eat_ it » rod, posted by IsoM on September 20, 2002, at 5:43:46
Hi IsoM - Thanks for pointing out the dangers. I think it's important, especially when someone could potentially obtain the herb without the "be carefuls".
:-) K
> Rod, I know you didn't mean for anyone to eat it. After all, you said you were prescribed it by a doctor. The warning wasn't from anything you said, but from the *possibility* of some people, in their enthusiasm for anything & all that's 'natural', to decide that they might be able to self-medicate.
>
> I wanted people to be aware of how dangerous it could be, potentially. It's also sad that there are "herbalists" who'll hang out a sign stating such, but without having real certification. A few will "prescribe" dangerous drugs from plants without being properly aware of how they should be used.
>
> This is why I mentioned that some meds are still used from such plants (but actually now synthesized in labs for purity).
Posted by rod on September 21, 2002, at 4:42:21
In reply to Re: I didnt intend to tell people to _eat_ it » rod, posted by IsoM on September 20, 2002, at 5:43:46
> Rod, I know you didn't mean for anyone to eat it. After all, you said you were prescribed it by a doctor. The warning wasn't from anything you said, but from the *possibility* of some people, in their enthusiasm for anything & all that's 'natural', to decide that they might be able to self-medicate.
>
> I wanted people to be aware of how dangerous it could be, potentially. It's also sad that there are "herbalists" who'll hang out a sign stating such, but without having real certification. A few will "prescribe" dangerous drugs from plants without being properly aware of how they should be used.
>
> This is why I mentioned that some meds are still used from such plants (but actually now synthesized in labs for purity).
You are right, IsoM, I wasn't aware of this.
And hmm, maybe I get too easily offended at all.
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