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Posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 4:13:04
i found on zyprexa my obsessive thinking/agitation becomes much better --
but i get movement disordersi am wondering if drugs that other people say give them "brain fog" work
for us obsessive types like antipsychotics ....anyone had benefit from 5HT2A antagonists (Serzone/nefazodone or
remeron/mirtazipine/zispin)? or anticonvulsants like topamax/topiramate,
gabitril/tiagabine, sabril/vagabatrin, verapamil/calan,
gabapentin/neurontin?? or anything else ??replies mucho appreciated :)
Posted by Ritch on September 10, 2002, at 10:24:46
In reply to foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking?, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 4:13:04
> i found on zyprexa my obsessive thinking/agitation becomes much better --
> but i get movement disorders
>
> i am wondering if drugs that other people say give them "brain fog" work
> for us obsessive types like antipsychotics ....
>
> anyone had benefit from 5HT2A antagonists (Serzone/nefazodone or
> remeron/mirtazipine/zispin)? or anticonvulsants like topamax/topiramate,
> gabitril/tiagabine, sabril/vagabatrin, verapamil/calan,
> gabapentin/neurontin?? or anything else ??
>
> replies mucho appreciated :)
>
>
Hi,I found that low-dose Serzone worked quite well for agitation. It does seem to reduce restlessness and that tends to reduce obsessive thinking. It gave me trouble keeping my eyes straight and focused, so it got ditched for that reason. Remeron would leave me on the couch-but it felt like I had a little squirrel-cage running in my head, like I was wanting to get up and pace all around-uggh. Of the anticonvulsants, probably Topamax was the most sedative, but I had trouble doing addition, subtraction.... Hmmm. That might just be the one you are looking for.
Mitch
Posted by Dinah on September 10, 2002, at 12:07:17
In reply to foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking?, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 4:13:04
Neurontin did a pretty good job on my OCD thoughts. I'm not sure I was on it for long enough to really tell for sure.
Posted by madison88 on September 10, 2002, at 21:47:13
In reply to Re: foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking? » cybercafe, posted by Dinah on September 10, 2002, at 12:07:17
Remeron was the foggiest med i have been on. I took it to sleep at night. Gabitril and Neurontin both helped with obsessions and mood swings. It seems that these drugs are used for a lot of different reasons. They make you feel detached in general. i think Neurontin fogged up my brain too much, at times i couldn't put a sentence together that made any sense. Gabitril has worked best for me, although it has caused some neurological side effects--twitches and stuff. It doesn't keep me from obsessing if i decide i really want to, which i like. but i don't get lost in thoughts for hours at a time like i used to. it helped as an add-on for panic and as a mood stabilizer. i had to go up to 8 mg to get the best effects. Some people go all the way to 50-something. If you don't mind feeling high it works well.
Posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 23:44:48
In reply to Re: foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking?, posted by madison88 on September 10, 2002, at 21:47:13
> Remeron was the foggiest med i have been on. I took it to sleep at night. Gabitril and Neurontin both helped with obsessions and mood swings. It seems that these drugs are used for a lot of different reasons. They make you feel detached in general. i think Neurontin fogged up my brain too much, at times i couldn't put a sentence together that made any sense. Gabitril has worked best for me, although it has caused some neurological side effects--twitches and stuff. It doesn't keep me from obsessing if i decide i really want to, which i like. but i don't get lost in thoughts for hours at a time like i used to. it helped as an add-on for panic and as a mood stabilizer. i had to go up to 8 mg to get the best effects. Some people go all the way to 50-something. If you don't mind feeling high it works well.
when you say gabapentin fogged up your brain.. does that mean it would stop you from thinking too much (like for me, that would involve thinking of many different normal things at the same time, and not being able to focus, or thinking about one agitating thing wayyyyy too much)thanks a lot for the replies mitch, dinah, madison, it means a lot to me :)
Posted by madison88 on September 11, 2002, at 21:49:55
In reply to Re: foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking?, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 23:44:48
i normally obsess about things that worry me or increase my anxiety. It mainly lowered my ability to get so worked up over stuff, therefore i don't think about one thing as much. It is like putting distance btw you and what you are trying to look at (lets say a street sign). it is still there for you to focus on, but it is not in your face, therefore you are able to focus on other more important things that you choose to focus on. I remember getting horribly sidetracked on the way to class before i started taking it. my mind would flood with thoughts about the leaves, the grass, the ants, how sidewalks are made, what temperature it was, the patterns in the clouds and what they looked like. Everything was up close and details were in my face. A few days after taking the med i finally got to class on time. the background receded and i no longer got lost in thoughts about it. hope this helps. the med makes for less interesting poetry though :-)
Posted by bookgurl99 on September 12, 2002, at 22:51:12
In reply to foggy brain meds for obsessive thinking?, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2002, at 4:13:04
Hey, about 3 years ago I started experiencing some ocd-style symptoms. (I needed to check the stove at night, double-check the door, etc., plus scanned for danger often, and couldn't even look at the paper due to the disturbing nature of the news and my inability to 'let go' of gruesome news stories.)
I found that serzone, 300 mgs, really helped. When I saw a family practicioner, he mistakenly started me out on a less-than-adequate does of 150 mgs, and I did see a mild improvement. But on 300 mgs, I started enjoying life again. As for side effects, I had some sleepiness and mild memory problems in the beginning. But overall this drug did not disturb my life.
Good luck!
bookgurl99
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