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Posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
I don't know if I have ocd or if the depression causes these stupid relentless thoughts. In my case I don't go into any rituals or anything like that but I have the same retarded thought all day and it bothers me. It began after the depression set in so I don't know if it is just a symptom of my depression or I also suffer from OCD. I remember this happening in previous episodes but this time it seems like it bothers me more. Any thoughts???????;)))))
Posted by Sally green on June 13, 2002, at 18:47:44
In reply to depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
Hi Deli:
I am generally a very well spirited person, although I have suffered for 20 years with severe pain from car accidents and addictions. I will not start preaching to you, promise, but I started watching a lady named Joyce Meyer on tv. She is a tv evangislist and used to drink, party etc., just an all around crazy lady who found God. She really has a great way of helping people you get that ocd and depression together. I used to let obsessive thoughts from my past nearly cripple me each day. I could sit and think of crap that happened 15 years ago and ponder it all day. The longer I pondered the more condemned and quilty I felt. She tells you how important it is to charish each day and realize that God does not want us getting caught up in the mistakes of our past etc. there is nothing that can be done about anything in the past, so will worry do to help your situation. This is how the devil helps you waste your potential and still the peace that Jesus died to give you.
Anyway, if you would like to chat more please write.
Sally
Posted by deli on June 14, 2002, at 11:08:29
In reply to depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
Hello Sally Green
My problem is more psychiatric than spiritual. I don't dwell of past experiences or problems I may have had. I fact, if it wasn't for the depression, I honestly can say that I have no problems. I have a wonderful husband, 2 lovely smart daughters, family that lives nearby, and wonderful supporting friends. Plus I have a wonderful relationship with God. I just get sick every two to three years with this depression if I don't take meds. My question to the board was more in terms of symptoms accompanying the depression like obsessive thoughts or if it may be a different beast all together. Thanks for your reply and keep up the high spirits....Deli
Posted by Sally green on June 14, 2002, at 11:43:18
In reply to Re: depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 14, 2002, at 11:08:29
Hi Deli:
I am happy to hear that you have a supportive family and a relationship with God. I hope that through talking with others you will find someone who will better be able to help with similar experiences. Just one last note: Joyce Meyers has a tape called the Power of t\Thoughts and Words, hope I am still not too off the mark, anyway she explains these thought etc that can some times cripple us through depression and how to cope.
Good luck and God Bless,
Sally
Posted by Essence on June 14, 2002, at 16:14:58
In reply to depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
I have had a similar experience during this last depressive episode I went through. I would actually wake up with a thought in my head that would repeat itself over and over for hours, sometimes it would just be a word that I couldn't shake, it would just keep popping into my thoughts despite what I did to try to ignore it. I don't have OCD so I expect it was caused by the depression as I have no problem now that my depresion and anxiety is back under control.
Essence
> I don't know if I have ocd or if the depression causes these stupid relentless thoughts. In my case I don't go into any rituals or anything like that but I have the same retarded thought all day and it bothers me. It began after the depression set in so I don't know if it is just a symptom of my depression or I also suffer from OCD. I remember this happening in previous episodes but this time it seems like it bothers me more. Any thoughts???????;)))))
Posted by Sally green on June 14, 2002, at 18:30:33
In reply to Re: depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by Essence on June 14, 2002, at 16:14:58
Hi Essence:
I know what you mean about the depression in relation to the obsessive thoughts. If I am depressed, which thank God is not much lately, I too will get obsessive thoughts. I have found that, if possible, that is when you need to really kick in everything you have to do something that brings you enjoyment or occupies your mind with something else. Just getting busy can help. Call somebody on the phone and chat! Anything to distract your mind from whatever has popped in. I am a firm believer that those thoughts are the devil trying to still our peace of mind and if anything you can't let him do this!! As I was telling another writer, my belief in God has really......helped me get over alot of this. Years ago, I could waste a whole day thinking about things that I did or that I said, pondering, wondering. Learning that this type activity is so unproductive and unneccessary has helped me control this. Once in a while I will have something stupid pop in my mind and I instantly tell myself that there is nothing that I can do to change the past. Learn to laugh at yourself, nothing is so bad that God won't forgive you and as long as you are safe and healthy, you can pick yourself up and move on.
A survivor of several near death auto accidents, addictions and the such, I have learned to realize how blessed I am and how much worse things could be.
Thanks for your imput,
Sally
Posted by Hildi on June 14, 2002, at 18:56:26
In reply to Re: depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way. » Essence, posted by Sally green on June 14, 2002, at 18:30:33
I was wondering if my obsessive thoughts were a side effect of the meds I am taking or if they are a symptom of my depression/anxiety. I will get a thought-like a song-in my head that I keep hearing over and over and over again, all day long.
Posted by Red_Robin on June 16, 2002, at 2:39:31
In reply to depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
I suffer from the same thing. I can't seem to stop thinking. My mind fixates on one thing and for the rest of the day I can't stop thinking about it.
My pdoc has suggested that this may be a mild form of OCD and has put me on Resperidone (1.25mg)
Since taking it I am not obsessing so much, and seem able to put a thought aside when I'm done with it.
Posted by deli on June 16, 2002, at 13:26:46
In reply to Re: depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way. » deli, posted by Red_Robin on June 16, 2002, at 2:39:31
It is beginning to get better. I think it is due to the depression more than OCD. When I begin to feel better the thoughts begin to dissipate. I have also begun to take Omega Brite 3-4 grams a day and I am feeling better. I have read about Omega 3 fats and really believe there is something to it.
Thanks for your thoughts;)
Deli
Posted by Sally green on June 16, 2002, at 14:48:36
In reply to Re: depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 16, 2002, at 13:26:46
Hi Deli:
I have taken vitamins and herbs for many years, but have not found many that seem to help with depression or OCD. In fact, the Omega-Brite you mentioned, what is that? I like to get a B-12 shot regularly and that seems to help with many things including hair, skin and certainly depression. Really helps with energy! B-12 can be bought over the counter and the sublingual for under the tongue is by far the best. I have had friends who suffer from periodic depression and say that it has helped. People usually do not take lightly to anything that has to be done regularly.
Hope you continue to find relief and success with you natural rememdies. I take Omega 3 fatty Acids for weight maintenance and the overall benefits to hair, skin, nails etc. I find that it can make my skin alittle oily.
Thanks for the info.
Sally
Posted by omega man on June 17, 2002, at 18:43:49
In reply to depression/Obsessive thoughts or the other way., posted by deli on June 13, 2002, at 18:11:33
my whole life has been ruled by obsessions...the best thing to do with fixation is
a) get a cure
or if you can't
b) obsess about something thats just so great that it would seem like an infinity of it would bring happiness...
better not doing it over people unless they're similiar enough to put up with it..
having said that my creativity has taken a nose dive since omega 3 made me a bit more fluid..sometimes I stop taking it just to remember how that feels..
Posted by Sally green on June 17, 2002, at 20:26:20
In reply to Re: use it creatively... » deli, posted by omega man on June 17, 2002, at 18:43:49
Hi Deli:
Thanks for the creative comments! Sounds like a winner!
Sally
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