Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 97976

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New promising benzo link

Posted by andyboy on March 14, 2002, at 11:02:17

Stumbled upon this link. More evidence from a reputable source stating the cases for non-tolerance of benzo's anti-anxiety effects.
(Note "Advantages" on the page)

http://www.fpnotebook.com/PSY120.htm

Any responses?
Andy

 

Re: New promising benzo link-another one

Posted by andyboy on March 14, 2002, at 11:10:25

In reply to New promising benzo link, posted by andyboy on March 14, 2002, at 11:02:17

located another-

http://www.anxieties.com/8Meds/panic_medication_BZs.htm

really, for any doubters, all you have to do is go to Google.com and type in "tolerance does not develop" and benzodiazepines and you will find a slew of them...
But on the flip side, Im sure you could find a bunch that claim otherwise. So who the hell is right????? UGGGHHHH!!!!!

confused now.
Andy

 

Re: New promising benzo link » andyboy

Posted by JohnX2 on March 15, 2002, at 5:44:42

In reply to New promising benzo link, posted by andyboy on March 14, 2002, at 11:02:17


Is there a debate that tolerance does not develop?

I don't get it.

Are there actually people who believe that there is not a risk of tolerance developing?

The question in my mind is whether or not the reward of taking a benzodiazepine offsets the risk of developing tolerance to a benzodiazepine.
Which in my view needs to be assessed on a case by case bases.

For me, I grew tolerant up to 6 mg of Klonopin. But I think it was worth it given the circumstances of my case. I think my development of tolerance was unusually fast.

-John


> Stumbled upon this link. More evidence from a reputable source stating the cases for non-tolerance of benzo's anti-anxiety effects.
> (Note "Advantages" on the page)
>
> http://www.fpnotebook.com/PSY120.htm
>
> Any responses?
> Andy

 

Tolerant to 6 mg of Klonapin? » JohnX2

Posted by fachad on March 15, 2002, at 8:35:27

In reply to Re: New promising benzo link » andyboy, posted by JohnX2 on March 15, 2002, at 5:44:42

JohnX2,

You were tolerant to 6 mg of Kloinapin?

How did you stop it?

What do you take now instead of it?

>
> Is there a debate that tolerance does not develop?
>
> I don't get it.
>
> Are there actually people who believe that there is not a risk of tolerance developing?
>
> The question in my mind is whether or not the reward of taking a benzodiazepine offsets the risk of developing tolerance to a benzodiazepine.
> Which in my view needs to be assessed on a case by case bases.
>
> For me, I grew tolerant up to 6 mg of Klonopin. But I think it was worth it given the circumstances of my case. I think my development of tolerance was unusually fast.
>
> -John
>
>
> > Stumbled upon this link. More evidence from a reputable source stating the cases for non-tolerance of benzo's anti-anxiety effects.
> > (Note "Advantages" on the page)
> >
> > http://www.fpnotebook.com/PSY120.htm
> >
> > Any responses?
> > Andy

 

Re: New promising benzo link » JohnX2

Posted by andyboy on March 15, 2002, at 10:14:46

In reply to Re: New promising benzo link » andyboy, posted by JohnX2 on March 15, 2002, at 5:44:42

John,
This was the case for you, your tolerance of up to 6mg of Klono, but its true, each case needs to be treated individually. There ARE in fact individuals who have maintained the theraputic effects of a benzo over the course of many years. Their accounts can be found in many different sources including this board. By the way how long was it before they stopped working for you, and what treatment do you now partake in if any?
Andy

 

Re: New promising benzo link » andyboy

Posted by JohnX2 on March 15, 2002, at 11:23:42

In reply to Re: New promising benzo link » JohnX2, posted by andyboy on March 15, 2002, at 10:14:46


Hi Andy,

It first pooped out about 6 months. I think as Elizabeth may have noted, the medication is not well suited to be administered concurrent with people suffering from depression. Best suited for people with GAD/Panic. I was taking it for treatment of intractable facial neuralgia (mostly tension headache). I don't care, it was worth have an anelgesic. The docs tried to replace it with many anticonvulsants, mostly failures. Topamax has almost an identical action at the GabaA receptor (it increases the flux of chloride ions through the receptor), and is not addictive. When I started Topamax it immediately relieved my myofacial pain and I was able to taper 4 or my 6 mg of Klonopin in 6 weeks. The last 2 mg have been impossible.

Best Regards
John

> John,
> This was the case for you, your tolerance of up to 6mg of Klono, but its true, each case needs to be treated individually. There ARE in fact individuals who have maintained the theraputic effects of a benzo over the course of many years. Their accounts can be found in many different sources including this board. By the way how long was it before they stopped working for you, and what treatment do you now partake in if any?
> Andy


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