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Posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
I can't stand Nardil.
I can't stand Nardil.I am too fat, can't sleep, no libdo on nardil.... is this a sick joke?
There has to a drug that workes as well for severe panic/depression without the side effects. Anyone, Anyone. I dare you.
Spike
Posted by CalvaryHill on January 6, 2002, at 1:32:39
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
Switch to the RIMA moclobemide, whose side-effect profile is comparable to the SSRIs (except for sexual dysfunction. MAOI-type drugs like moclobemide may be superior than other types of antidepressants because MAOIs affect serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine all in the same pill.
Posted by christophrejmc on January 6, 2002, at 3:03:28
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
Have you tried Marplan? I think it has similar side-effects to Nardil, but is probably worth a try.
How is your Parnate trial going?
Posted by Thrud on January 6, 2002, at 8:59:23
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
Enough Xanax will stop the panic attacks. The dosage could be anywhere from 0.25 to 6mg per day. The sedation will wear off in a couple of weeks and it has very few side effects (except dependence). From experience I consider Xanax absolutely a front line treatment for panic disorder.
Regarding the depression, Xanax has a weak antidepressant effect and is probably not enough as monotherapy. Maybe you have used a good antidepressant in the past you could use with Xanax? I use Lamictal.
BTW, (untreated) my panic/depression is also severe. Start with Xanax and go from there.
Thrud
> I can't stand Nardil.
> I can't stand Nardil.
>
> I am too fat, can't sleep, no libdo on nardil.... is this a sick joke?
>
> There has to a drug that workes as well for severe panic/depression without the side effects. Anyone, Anyone. I dare you.
>
> Spike
Posted by jimmygold70 on January 6, 2002, at 16:29:54
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
I also couldn't stand Nardil. Did you try Effexor (at high doses) ? Augmentation with T3 or lithium ? What about ECT ?
Tell me exactly what drugs you took so far and at what doses, what were the side effects so I can help you more.
Jimmy
Posted by OldSchool on January 6, 2002, at 17:22:29
In reply to Re: Come on Now, Something better than Nardil » spike4848, posted by jimmygold70 on January 6, 2002, at 16:29:54
> ? What about ECT ?
>There you go. LOL
Posted by Elizabeth on January 6, 2002, at 22:50:49
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
Parnate might be better for you, if the side effects are giving you a hard time.
Posted by mr.scott on January 7, 2002, at 15:22:28
In reply to Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by spike4848 on January 6, 2002, at 1:20:51
Effexor plus Benzo sounds like a worthwhile try.
Benzos rule..one of the only good categories of psychiatric medicine to date.
1) It usually helps unlike the rest of those crappy pills.
2) side effects are mild at best.
3) It isn't any more difficult to stop than Paxil or Effexor.
Posted by luther on January 31, 2004, at 5:15:30
In reply to Re: Come on Now, Something better than Nardil, posted by mr.scott on January 7, 2002, at 15:22:28
> Effexor plus Benzo sounds like a worthwhile try.
>
> Benzos rule..one of the only good categories of psychiatric medicine to date.
>
> 1) It usually helps unlike the rest of those crappy pills.
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> 2) side effects are mild at best.
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> 3) It isn't any more difficult to stop than Paxil or Effexor.
Right on Mr. Scott or is that beam me up Scottie? I agree 100%, if we could only convince the incompetent doctors of this fact. If I had Valium a long time ago my life would be much different and for the better. I have taken 15 mg. of Valium for GAD 12 years never needing one more mg. during that time. There goes the physical dependence theory of needing more and more to get the job done and I take 90 mg. of Nardil. It does cause the problems mentioned by the origional poster above: sexual dysfunction and weight gain which I have found there is no remedy for. Parnate has less of these effects and may be the choice for Spike and I can definitely understand his frustration. The new and unimproved Nardil by the way doesn't work as good as the old, but it causes the opposite of sexual dysfuntion, can't think of the word (pervert), lol. Hope I have been of some assistance.
Sincerely,
Luther
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