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Posted by geno on November 17, 2001, at 20:07:50
Hello, iv been using ghb for 2 yrs now, maily for social phobia. ITS a dream when it comes to this, but i hate the rebound effect and you have to continuously dose yourself all day long.
GHB, from what i gather suppresses dopamine temporarily and binds GABA B receptors. THUS causes the primary effect.
I LOVE THE EFFECT. BUT due to the problem of continuously dosing, sometimes overdosing and falling asleep, and illegal, im looking for a med that would have similar effects, mainly on socialability, Or that fun outgoing talkative happy feeling.
I was thinkabout taking a dopamine med such as nardil along with klonopin, would such have similar effects?
geno
Posted by vincent on November 19, 2001, at 13:26:14
In reply to GHB, any med simiar in action?, posted by geno on November 17, 2001, at 20:07:50
This is very interesting!!
I would like to know if there are med working in similar way too!
In my country ghb isn't illegal, but it is legal if imported for personal use!
But I think it's difficult to use, and you must keep important security attention to use it.
Please let me know somenting about your use of ghb, right effects and side effects.
The only meds I've on mind, but not exacly similar to ghb, are dopaminergic (Amisulpride, Bupropion, etc..) but their way of working is too slow and you need months for having little right effects.
Thanks.
Posted by JGalt on November 19, 2001, at 14:07:12
In reply to Re: GHB, any med simiar in action?, posted by vincent on November 19, 2001, at 13:26:14
Read the baclofen thread just a little bit up on this page. It too is a gaba(b) agonist and its side effects sound similar to GHB...I'm definitely thinking of finding a way to get some prescribed as I too love the effects (with the exception of the short term memory probs). Without those, there'd be nothing at all negative about taking a ride on the G-bird.
Posted by geno on November 19, 2001, at 18:55:02
In reply to Re: GHB, any med simiar in action?, posted by JGalt on November 19, 2001, at 14:07:12
> Read the baclofen thread just a little bit up on this page. It too is a gaba(b) agonist and its side effects sound similar to GHB...I'm definitely thinking of finding a way to get some prescribed as I too love the effects (with the exception of the short term memory probs). Without those, there'd be nothing at all negative about taking a ride on the G-bird.
I just may have figured something out. Actually, i seem like i "concentrate more" when on g. I now for a fact, when im not taking g, i cannot focus, irritable, very antisocial, and hate doing things. People tell me the same old shit, OH get off that nasty drug, and go to a doctor and get antidepressant. Well fuck you.(to those) they dont know dick about mental health, i love this threat. People, that think there normal, just say, ya go get some prozac and youll be happy. BULLSHIT. OR GHB is killing your brain, eating it away!! Yes i do have drawlbacks, esp when ghb wears off, i get nasty. But i too am looking for a med that acts and makes me feel this way, not all fuckedup, but calm and social and have drive. NOt like xanax , where i wanna lay on the couch and sleep.
I came up with my be trying Baclofen, a gaba b agaonist, same as ghb. Although an added effect i beleive furthers ghb inhibition is it lowering dopamine levels in the synaptic cleft temporarily. I dont think adding zyprexa to baclofen would help. prob know me out.GHB just makes everything good. Even if im doing someting ,i hate, i like it!! These anti g people totally blow it out of mind. They could drink a case of beer, act stupid, violent pass out, but when somone takes g, your either a rapist, going to die of coma, or a junkie! For the 1000 times i do g and once in a while i pass out, thats it!!! YOur marked as a druggy.
Its sound like im SO pro g, well theres good and bad, but dam, i wont stop until i find something that helps my depression, social phobia, temper, well being. SSRIS suck
geno
Posted by JGalt on November 20, 2001, at 11:38:44
In reply to Re: GHB, any med simiar in action?, posted by geno on November 19, 2001, at 18:55:02
Hehe, I agree with you almost completely geno. It does make doing things that you don't want to do a lot more bearable, or even enjoyable. I don't understand people and alcohol either. My best friend and I recently went out to some parties, I had some g, he had a lot of alky (he said enough to make him happy), he wasn't making any sense, almost got himself killed, wound up trying to fight me, etc. I was able to have a pretty good time on the g till he started acting stupid and I was having to save his drunk self. I have yet to throw up on g and I have passed out a few times, only when I wanted to though because I was so sick of life I wanted to end it. I don't believe I ever felt love towards anyone without jealousy or a panic feeling that they were going to leave me before I met up with ghb. Can't say that alcohol was ever able to do that for me.
Out of curiousity, how many times are you dosing a day? I've been up to 6 times a day, which I view as abuse now, but I was suicidal then so it was the only way I could keep from killing myself. Now I'm down to once a day. Agreed it is one of the few things that can stop a really bad temper, restlessness, ruminating thoughts, violent feelings, dysthmia, hate towards the world, disinterest in everything, etc.
You may also want to research Xyrem if you have insurance, this is GHB, and is FDA approved for nacrolepsy. If you have insurance and do enough doc hunting, you could probably get Xyrem prescribed after telling them your symptoms and how it is the only thing that works and that you've tried this that and the other stuff (assuming Xyrem is out now, it seems like it should be).
This is probably one of the biggest reasons ghb was banned in the first place, because it has so many uses, yet being a natural chemical found in the brain and body, the only way it could be patented is if it was scheduled. (As a side note, it is very interesting that it is a schedule 1 substance, as that means that any amount of it is highly illegal. That means that everytime you buy meat you are committing a felony, for example the average steak has 2.6 mg of ghb in it, and smaller amounts of GBL and 1,4 butanediol. So Mcdonald's could be considered a high level drug distributer!) The american public was duped into believing that it was banned because it was a "date-rape" drug...don't suppose they ever heard of alky. I suppose the biggest problem was that it is hard to taste if it is diluted in an alcoholic drink (which, if it is combined w/ alky it can be lethal). If the government were truly for protecting us, they would have simply mandated that all ghb, gbl, or 1,4butanediol be produced with a substance with very distinct taste. There are many substances that can be tasted in such small amounts that if they were added to ghb, and then someone put some in your drink, you would know with the first sip. Nope, instead its a black market drug and anyone who were to want to use it for date rape can get it and slip it in someone's drink...granted its illegal, but they'd have no trouble doing it, and proof would be very difficult. All so some pharmaceutical company could make some more cash off a natural chemical.
Standard disclaimer: Any mention of GHB or g by JGalt refers to a substance other than GHB which is legal in his state of residence.
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