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Posted by Marie1 on September 8, 2001, at 15:52:37
I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
Marie
Posted by susan C on September 8, 2001, at 17:24:45
In reply to Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Marie1 on September 8, 2001, at 15:52:37
dear Marie1, for me, fortunately, I can put headaches of any kind on my 'I dont have this' list. Your descripition of nausea accompanying the headache makes me think of my sister's experience, and would encourage you to note your symptoms and talk to your doc ASAP. Sister's doc recommended and she found Excedrin either extra strength or one for migranes(?) helped her.
Watchful mouse on the net.
Susan C
> I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
> Marie
Posted by Marie1 on September 9, 2001, at 8:23:44
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by susan C on September 8, 2001, at 17:24:45
Susan (aka Mouse),
Thanks so much for your reply. Would you mind giving me more specifics on your sister's problem? What was her diagnosis? Is there something significant about the nausea?
Headaches were never a big deal to me before- just the occasional hangover :-). This morning migraine thing is really getting out of hand. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet on a work day, as I really can't just call off sick. I heard exedrin migraine works, thanks for seconding that. I just really wish I knew what was causing this. Thanks again.
Marie
ps - I have this visual of you as a mouse, propped on pillows in front of PC, wearing bifocals, pecking away at keyboard! :-)> dear Marie1, for me, fortunately, I can put headaches of any kind on my 'I dont have this' list. Your descripition of nausea accompanying the headache makes me think of my sister's experience, and would encourage you to note your symptoms and talk to your doc ASAP. Sister's doc recommended and she found Excedrin either extra strength or one for migranes(?) helped her.
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> Watchful mouse on the net.
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> Susan C
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> > I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
> > Marie
Posted by susan C on September 9, 2001, at 12:23:59
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate? » susan C, posted by Marie1 on September 9, 2001, at 8:23:44
hmmmm, no pillow, but I do have a foot rest so I am ergonomically correct 8:o) and YES I have bifocals...is it that obvimouse I am O L D?
My sister, well, that was a new one, I just recently heard from her that she even got migranes and following that that she has been dealing with high blood pressure...I thought we talked about everything...oh well. If I recall, it starts with a little nausea and sensitivity to light. So wearing dark glasses and being aware are the first steps. What she did or does is laydown in a dark quiet room. for the rest of the day. I got the impression isnt wasnt incapacitating if she caught it early enough and now that she is willing to take something for it (she is a raving 'natural' person) she is much more comfortable. Hope that gives you a bit more information
Mouse scratching her head
Susan C
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> Susan (aka Mouse),
> Thanks so much for your reply. Would you mind giving me more specifics on your sister's problem? What was her diagnosis? Is there something significant about the nausea?
> Headaches were never a big deal to me before- just the occasional hangover :-). This morning migraine thing is really getting out of hand. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet on a work day, as I really can't just call off sick. I heard exedrin migraine works, thanks for seconding that. I just really wish I knew what was causing this. Thanks again.
> Marie
> ps - I have this visual of you as a mouse, propped on pillows in front of PC, wearing bifocals, pecking away at keyboard! :-)
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> > dear Marie1, for me, fortunately, I can put headaches of any kind on my 'I dont have this' list. Your descripition of nausea accompanying the headache makes me think of my sister's experience, and would encourage you to note your symptoms and talk to your doc ASAP. Sister's doc recommended and she found Excedrin either extra strength or one for migranes(?) helped her.
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> > > I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
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Posted by Marie1 on September 9, 2001, at 18:03:17
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate? » Marie1, posted by susan C on September 9, 2001, at 12:23:59
> hmmmm, no pillow, but I do have a foot rest so I am ergonomically correct 8:o) and YES I have bifocals...is it that obvimouse I am O L D?
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Susan,
No, no, it's not in the least obvimouse how old you are. In my visual, the mouse wears bifocals, because, um , I don't know. Perhaps to make a distinction from the other mouse at your PC? :-)
Marie
Posted by Montsegur on September 10, 2001, at 15:58:05
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Marie1 on September 9, 2001, at 18:03:17
> > hmmmm, no pillow, but I do have a foot rest so I am ergonomically correct 8:o) and YES I have bifocals...is it that obvimouse I am O L D?
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> Susan,
> No, no, it's not in the least obvimouse how old you are. In my visual, the mouse wears bifocals, because, um , I don't know. Perhaps to make a distinction from the other mouse at your PC? :-)
> MarieHi there. I have suffered from migraines for years. At this point I use Imitrex which works like magic to clear it up within 45 mins. The stuff is expensive but well worth looking into. I gather from clinical testing that I was one of the fortunate one's it works well on with no side-effects; others have less effective results.
For years Fiurinal was also used. Asperin with codeine is effective for those "one side of the head" massive headaches but must be used in moderation. If the frequency of migraines per month goes up to around 10 or so you should have a head scan done.
Finally, migraines are a complex subject, and they have alot to do with background stress or even allergic reactions to the environment. Try noting down events, situations, weather, whatever, to see if you can figure out a pattern to their onsets.
Best wishes,
D.
Posted by Marie1 on September 10, 2001, at 19:00:26
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Montsegur on September 10, 2001, at 15:58:05
Posted by Lorraine on September 11, 2001, at 16:36:19
In reply to Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Marie1 on September 8, 2001, at 15:52:37
Marie: Morning migraines--I used to get them on Effexor and then when I first started Parnate. I have a history of migraines, but it was not until I got on the Parnate and elizabeth suggested that I might be having "rebound" headaches from the Parnate that I made the connection. My usual migraines went away after menopause, so to have migraines return with Parnate seemed unusual. The problem in my case was that I was taking my two doses of Parnate in the morining (to avoid insomnia) rather than spacing them am and pm. I noticed that the headaches actually went away once I took my first med dose in the morning (although aspirin would not put a dent in them).
We are all different. Your's may actually be migraines; mine were rebound (withdrawal) effects from spacing my doses incorrectly. Good luck.
Posted by shelliR on September 11, 2001, at 17:41:22
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate? » susan C, posted by Marie1 on September 9, 2001, at 8:23:44
> This morning migraine thing is really getting out of hand. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet on a work day, as I really can't >just call off sick.
Hi Marie,
(I hope you are fine across the river and that no one in your family was anywhere near the pentagon)
A friend of mine got severe migraines several times a month, always on Friday night or Saturday morning. She worked full time. I don't know how much you are working, but she fit the pattern of dealing with a lot of stress at work and somehow after all that stress, when she was able to let go--that was when she got her migraines. Almost like her body knew it could not fall apart during the work week. I think it's curious that you have never had a migraine on a workday and wonder if the preceding day was stressful for you. Just wondering if the timing of your headaches is other than purely coincidentalShelli
Posted by Marie1 on September 11, 2001, at 20:26:57
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate? » Marie1, posted by shelliR on September 11, 2001, at 17:41:22
Hi Shelli,
That's interesting...it never occured to me that I could be controlling when I get the headaches. I *am* under alot of stress, but really, what's new about that? :-) Although maybe I'm surpassing some kind of threshold. I don't know, just thinking aloud. I'll bring it up to my pdoc this week.
No, my family and I were nowhere near the pentagon today. Worse, my husband works in NY. He was fine though, in fact he called me to turn on the tv this morning and keep him and his coworkers updated; even though they were there, they weren't able to get much info. I did panic, however, when a friend who works for the government told me that there was a hyjacked jet circling Dulles. (We're in Loudoun Co.) I was terrified it would crash land into one of my daughter's schools. You wouldn't believe all the traffic driving west (away from DC)! Many of my neighbors work at the pentagon, haven't heard anything bad yet, thank god. This was a day none of us is likely to forget for a long time.
Thanks for the response.
Marie
> > This morning migraine thing is really getting out of hand. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet on a work day, as I really can't >just call off sick.
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> Hi Marie,
> (I hope you are fine across the river and that no one in your family was anywhere near the pentagon)
> A friend of mine got severe migraines several times a month, always on Friday night or Saturday morning. She worked full time. I don't know how much you are working, but she fit the pattern of dealing with a lot of stress at work and somehow after all that stress, when she was able to let go--that was when she got her migraines. Almost like her body knew it could not fall apart during the work week. I think it's curious that you have never had a migraine on a workday and wonder if the preceding day was stressful for you. Just wondering if the timing of your headaches is other than purely coincidental
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> Shelli
Posted by Marie1 on September 11, 2001, at 20:30:08
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Rebound headaches? » Marie1, posted by Lorraine on September 11, 2001, at 16:36:19
Lorraine,
Thanks for the response. This whole "headache" thing is unusual for me. And I think it's odd they only come on sometime in the wee hours. I'll ask my pdoc abound the rebound thing. As you say, we're all different. :-)
Marie
> Marie: Morning migraines--I used to get them on Effexor and then when I first started Parnate. I have a history of migraines, but it was not until I got on the Parnate and elizabeth suggested that I might be having "rebound" headaches from the Parnate that I made the connection. My usual migraines went away after menopause, so to have migraines return with Parnate seemed unusual. The problem in my case was that I was taking my two doses of Parnate in the morining (to avoid insomnia) rather than spacing them am and pm. I noticed that the headaches actually went away once I took my first med dose in the morning (although aspirin would not put a dent in them).
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> We are all different. Your's may actually be migraines; mine were rebound (withdrawal) effects from spacing my doses incorrectly. Good luck.
Posted by Jean B. on September 11, 2001, at 22:03:40
In reply to Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Marie1 on September 8, 2001, at 15:52:37
> I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
> MarieMarie, I have just recently discovered this site and your post jumped out at me. I started getting migraines when I had a total hysterectomy in 83. They were bad for the first few years and always lasted 3 days. Only the last 5 or so years did I start to wake up with one and usually always on a Fri. or Sat. morn. I think it is stress. My husband and I work seperate shifts, so I only see him on the weekends. Hmmmmmm. Maybe it's impending stress? Anyway, I started using Imitrex about then, but it works great. So every morning for 3 days, I take the Imitrex so I can go to work. I have tried lots of other meds, but go back to the Imitrex. I started on ad's last Jan. and do get a lot of headaches, but no more migraines than usual. Maybe the migraines will stop as suddenly and they started.
Posted by Marie1 on September 11, 2001, at 22:34:13
In reply to Re: Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Jean B. on September 11, 2001, at 22:03:40
Jean,
I don't know, maybe with me it's stress too. I'll do a search on Imitrex because I just can't see putting up with this. I don't know how people who routinely get migraines cope. I'm glad you found this site. Most people who post here are extremely knowledgable and don't hesitate to share their expertise. Thanks for your advice.
Marie> > I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
> > Marie
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> Marie, I have just recently discovered this site and your post jumped out at me. I started getting migraines when I had a total hysterectomy in 83. They were bad for the first few years and always lasted 3 days. Only the last 5 or so years did I start to wake up with one and usually always on a Fri. or Sat. morn. I think it is stress. My husband and I work seperate shifts, so I only see him on the weekends. Hmmmmmm. Maybe it's impending stress? Anyway, I started using Imitrex about then, but it works great. So every morning for 3 days, I take the Imitrex so I can go to work. I have tried lots of other meds, but go back to the Imitrex. I started on ad's last Jan. and do get a lot of headaches, but no more migraines than usual. Maybe the migraines will stop as suddenly and they started.
Posted by LyndaK on September 16, 2001, at 1:26:11
In reply to Morning migraines...Can anyone relate?, posted by Marie1 on September 8, 2001, at 15:52:37
Here's something else you might want to consider. The fact that you wake up with these headaches is what jumped out at me. Headaches upon waking up are somethimes an indication that you are clenching or grinding your teeth during your sleep. I used to be a "clencher" and frequently woke up with bad headaches. I'm now being treated for this problem by a dentist. I wear an orthodontic appliance that fits over my lower teeth and basically corrects how my teeth come together allowing my jaw to be more relaxed and forward. (I thought my receding chin was genetic. It wasn't and I no longer have a receding chin). I haven't had a morning headache since about a week or two after receiving my appliance (about 5 or 6 months now).
Headaches are my vulnerability and I still get them for other reasons, but my morning headaches were definitly due to the jaw clenching at night.
Just something else to consider.
Good luck!
Lynda
> I've been experiencing headaches upon waking for the past several years. I can't say for sure if they began when I began using ADs. Recently, I've begun having them about 3x/mnth (sometimes once a week). They're so debilitating all I can do is go back to sleep. Aspirin doesn't seem to touch the pain. Sometimes they go away by noon, other times I have them all day, but never (so far) more than one day in duration. When I have them, I wake up with them, they never spontaniously just develop during the day. I refer to them as "migraines" because the pain is fairly intense, I also feel slightly nauseaus, and can't stand the light. Has anyone else had headaches like these? I was wondering of they could be med related. I take Prozac and phentermine. Please help if you can.
> Marie
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