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Posted by stjames on July 31, 2001, at 3:38:50
In reply to Holistic and Homeopathic Med. during my pregnancy » Else, posted by gldngodess on July 30, 2001, at 21:03:03
I lost the Baby.
james here..
I think you are making this up, to curry favor.
The loss of a child is a big deal, how dare you
use this. If you have lost anything it is credibility. First you are nice, then attack, and now this ploy.james
Posted by Else on July 31, 2001, at 6:35:41
In reply to Holistic and Homeopathic Med. during my pregnancy » Else, posted by gldngodess on July 30, 2001, at 21:03:03
Well, you're lucky placebo works so well for you. BTW, homeopathy is not herbal medicine as you seem to imply. The claims made by herbal medicine manufacturers are unproven but have the merit of being plausible, unlike homoepathy which is physically impossible (physically as in physics: the science that studies the laws of the universe). When a substance is diluted to such an extent that not one single molecule of it can be present in each and every pill marketed, and yet claims are still made that the substance is present, that doesn't just go against Avogadro's Law, that's a plain lie. You may or may not believe herbal remedies work, it is unproven but possible (although if they were truly psycho-active, they would probably be controlled by the FDA or the DEA like say, marijuana, coca, opium... have you heard of these particular herbal meds). But homeopathy is just like buying a sugar pill even though it may be a great and very effective placebo for you.
> I was taking Effexor XR, after my dad died for almost a year. I was up to 300mg a day. I became pregnant while on Effexor and I chose to wean quick off Effexor. So, I went from 300mg to 150mg after four days, then to 75mg, and after four days, 37.5. I was not depressed but my body reacted badly, involuntary jerking,profuse sweating and bizzarre dreams and if I would walk to the kitchen or in the store I would be sweating and shaking.
> It was not because I felt nervous ,it was my body withdrawling. I lost the Baby.
> After the loss of my baby, I was more depressed, but more determined to have a baby.
> Sorry, if Iam boring the "gang".
> I started taking this drink, it stopped my jerking, sweating and I could see clearer than ever before. I took an ounce under my tongue and held it there for 60 seconds than swallow. I took another ounce mid day and worked up to 4 ounces a day. I did that four 4 weeks until my dreams,sweating and shaking stopped completely.
> Then, I just took 2oz. in the morning for energy, I lost my craving for coffee completely and I loved coffee,
> I found myself craving lots of water(the good things). I waited a month to make sure the tranquility was REAL. Then, I tried to get pregnant again and I did. I kept drinking the juice throughout my pregnancy and by my 36th weekI was already almost 3cm dialted. The doctor told me to come back when I felt the labor pains coming on, which would have been almost anyday. A week went by and at my next doctor's apt. I was 8cm dialated and did not have any pains previous, then she(doctor) kept me in the hospital, broke my water and without any pain medicine the baby was shooting out 15 min. later. I felt everything and I was so happy my baby was completely healthy in and out. I started nursing when I became engorged with milk, the lady that was helping me, heated the same juice I was drinking everyday and soaked two big wash cloths in it to put on each breast,within an hour my milk let down and I had so much I pumped out and froze my extra milk.
> I worked with Le Leche League(nursing advocates) and told other women about my experience with depression and nursing and how healthy and smart and tall my 6 yr old is. He had bronchitis one time and I gave him oune of juice with water and soaked cloths to put on his chest and back. He started coughing up gren purulent phlem, it was so much! I kept giving him fluids and sips of that juice. The next day he was fine ,no cough,no antibiotics, but he had a huge appetite.
> I just wanted to share that with you guys and I certainly did not mean to get the Lab where I work run through the mud, especially, when we are top notch research scientists developing new medicines. You do also need to realize a lot of or pharmaceutical medicines are alkaloids or extracts from plants. That is why everybody is worried about our rain forrests and want to save them.
> I am very sorry I interfered with the gang here.I just wanted to share my blessing of my experience with others who might of lost a baby while on SSRI'S OR SSNRI'S like Effexor.
> goodnite~
Posted by Simcha on July 31, 2001, at 7:34:39
In reply to Holistic and Homeopathic Med. during my pregnancy » Else, posted by gldngodess on July 30, 2001, at 21:03:03
Gldngodess,
Sorry that I was so abrupt and confrontational. I just thought you were yet another "doctor" selling something. Now I understand that you are one of us and that you were merely trying to show us something that helped you....
1000 apologies... *blush*
I've tried all sorts of remedies in the past too. I've tried faith healing, crystals, smudging, and other sundry "healing" techniques. I can say that at least for the crystals I have some beautiful rocks to show for the money I spent, so I don't regret that one.
What seems to help me most at the moment is Celexa and Wellbutrin. It ain't perfect, but it's been the best bet so far.
I'm sorry to hear about your baby. Effexor sucks that way... I've read.
> I was taking Effexor XR, after my dad died for almost a year. I was up to 300mg a day. I became pregnant while on Effexor and I chose to wean quick off Effexor. So, I went from 300mg to 150mg after four days, then to 75mg, and after four days, 37.5. I was not depressed but my body reacted badly, involuntary jerking,profuse sweating and bizzarre dreams and if I would walk to the kitchen or in the store I would be sweating and shaking.
> It was not because I felt nervous ,it was my body withdrawling. I lost the Baby.
> After the loss of my baby, I was more depressed, but more determined to have a baby.
> Sorry, if Iam boring the "gang".
> I started taking this drink, it stopped my jerking, sweating and I could see clearer than ever before. I took an ounce under my tongue and held it there for 60 seconds than swallow. I took another ounce mid day and worked up to 4 ounces a day. I did that four 4 weeks until my dreams,sweating and shaking stopped completely.
> Then, I just took 2oz. in the morning for energy, I lost my craving for coffee completely and I loved coffee,
> I found myself craving lots of water(the good things). I waited a month to make sure the tranquility was REAL. Then, I tried to get pregnant again and I did. I kept drinking the juice throughout my pregnancy and by my 36th weekI was already almost 3cm dialted. The doctor told me to come back when I felt the labor pains coming on, which would have been almost anyday. A week went by and at my next doctor's apt. I was 8cm dialated and did not have any pains previous, then she(doctor) kept me in the hospital, broke my water and without any pain medicine the baby was shooting out 15 min. later. I felt everything and I was so happy my baby was completely healthy in and out. I started nursing when I became engorged with milk, the lady that was helping me, heated the same juice I was drinking everyday and soaked two big wash cloths in it to put on each breast,within an hour my milk let down and I had so much I pumped out and froze my extra milk.
> I worked with Le Leche League(nursing advocates) and told other women about my experience with depression and nursing and how healthy and smart and tall my 6 yr old is. He had bronchitis one time and I gave him oune of juice with water and soaked cloths to put on his chest and back. He started coughing up gren purulent phlem, it was so much! I kept giving him fluids and sips of that juice. The next day he was fine ,no cough,no antibiotics, but he had a huge appetite.
> I just wanted to share that with you guys and I certainly did not mean to get the Lab where I work run through the mud, especially, when we are top notch research scientists developing new medicines. You do also need to realize a lot of or pharmaceutical medicines are alkaloids or extracts from plants. That is why everybody is worried about our rain forrests and want to save them.
> I am very sorry I interfered with the gang here.I just wanted to share my blessing of my experience with others who might of lost a baby while on SSRI'S OR SSNRI'S like Effexor.
> goodnite~
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 31, 2001, at 10:10:15
In reply to Re: Holistic and Homeopathic Med. during my pregnancy, posted by stjames on July 31, 2001, at 3:38:50
> I think you are making this up, to curry favor.
Please be careful about jumping to conclusions about others, thanks.
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding supportiveness should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.
Posted by stjames on July 31, 2001, at 22:50:40
In reply to Re: please be supportive » stjames, posted by Dr. Bob on July 31, 2001, at 10:10:15
> > I think you are making this up, to curry favor.
>
> Please be careful about jumping to conclusions about others, thanks.
>
> Bob
>james here....
While I accept your warning, I don't think I jumped to this conclusion. A ruse is a ruse.
james
Posted by Gracie2 on August 2, 2001, at 23:49:48
In reply to Re: please be supportive, posted by stjames on July 31, 2001, at 22:50:40
If something works because you THINK it works...
well, then it works.
-Gracie
Damn, I'm out of limes.
Posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 13:46:55
In reply to Homeopathic Neuropsychopharmacology;no sideeffects, posted by gldngodess on July 30, 2001, at 13:18:43
I read where people were soaking tea leaves or marijuana and cigerettes in "embalming fliud" and they call it "wet" or "illie".
Those people start having auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations. They say it gives you the same thing as pcp and pcp is mixed with it sometime. Some people just soak electrical tape in the fluid and sell it.The people almost die everytime they smoke it and they like the feeling of that. They get naked, and start thinking people are out to get them and try to kill themself.
Has anyone everdid that on here and survived to tell their experience and please also say why you did it.
Were you scared did you hallucinate? It's supposed to be popular now;to have pcp mixed with marijuana now.
I heard one guy on here say he smoked pot as I was reading.I am glad I can't be around smoke I have asthma.
I am so afraid what my kids might be offered when they get older.
They even said to be careful around here the elementary schools because older kids were giving out superhero looking stamps coated with LSD, and they were telling the kids, they were tattoos, to lick and stick on their skin. Can you imagine the evilness out there?
LSD too, I have read can give you flashbacks.
3 kids died over here in florida because some kid found and gave out some pretty blue rocks and they sucked on them and died, it was rat poison.
Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured. Is that an OCD? Or something else worse. I dont go thru rituals like OCD's. My mind did race more before.
I have never been diagnosed, so what does this panel think about my condition, at least I am honest with myself. I control many things at work and home...but I don't believe I am god. I thought I was going be a nun at one point in my life to help people, but I like make-up and being pretty too, so that was out. I do think I am always right and people say I usually am. I am female.
any suggestions? please help!
-DN (dom and Nars)
e-mail me if you want.
Posted by Else on August 3, 2001, at 14:07:37
In reply to I read something real scary last night (drugs)HELP, posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 13:46:55
>Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured
Yes. Authoritarian would be a better word though. LSD has been very beneficial to me in the past. It's not an "evil" drug, just one people should be very careful with. Faith in God has brought its share of trouble to humanity (remember the Inquisition? Probably not).
I think your post is mostly irrelevant. Urban legends about kids being given LSD don't have much to do with psychopharmacology. LSD is not addictive in any way and if drug dealers gave drugs to kids it would probably not be this one. I'm sorry to be so blunt but your post contains all the paranoid anti-drug propaganda I despise. You need to get real scientific information. And here's a scoop, the DEA lies.Your problem sounds like obsessive-compulsive personnality disorder with a bit of narcissism and paranoia thrown in for good measure.
Drugs that help with OCD (SSRIs and Anafranil)could help you if you don't consider drug therapy "evil". Sorry if I sound unsympathetic but, frankly, that's because I am unsympathetic.
I sense a "Please be civil" warning coming for some reason.
> I read where people were soaking tea leaves or marijuana and cigerettes in "embalming fliud" and they call it "wet" or "illie".
> Those people start having auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations. They say it gives you the same thing as pcp and pcp is mixed with it sometime. Some people just soak electrical tape in the fluid and sell it.
>
> The people almost die everytime they smoke it and they like the feeling of that. They get naked, and start thinking people are out to get them and try to kill themself.
>
> Has anyone everdid that on here and survived to tell their experience and please also say why you did it.
>
> Were you scared did you hallucinate? It's supposed to be popular now;to have pcp mixed with marijuana now.
>
> I heard one guy on here say he smoked pot as I was reading.I am glad I can't be around smoke I have asthma.
>
> I am so afraid what my kids might be offered when they get older.
>
> They even said to be careful around here the elementary schools because older kids were giving out superhero looking stamps coated with LSD, and they were telling the kids, they were tattoos, to lick and stick on their skin. Can you imagine the evilness out there?
>
> LSD too, I have read can give you flashbacks.
>
> 3 kids died over here in florida because some kid found and gave out some pretty blue rocks and they sucked on them and died, it was rat poison.
>
> Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured. Is that an OCD? Or something else worse. I dont go thru rituals like OCD's. My mind did race more before.
>
> I have never been diagnosed, so what does this panel think about my condition, at least I am honest with myself. I control many things at work and home...but I don't believe I am god. I thought I was going be a nun at one point in my life to help people, but I like make-up and being pretty too, so that was out. I do think I am always right and people say I usually am. I am female.
>
> any suggestions? please help!
> -DN (dom and Nars)
> e-mail me if you want.
Posted by afatchic on August 3, 2001, at 16:03:36
In reply to Re: I read something real scary last night (drugs)HELP » gldngodess, posted by Else on August 3, 2001, at 14:07:37
Else, you probably will be chastised but I have to admit you wrote what I thought. Perhaps this is just someone having fun with us?
> >Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured
>
> Yes. Authoritarian would be a better word though. LSD has been very beneficial to me in the past. It's not an "evil" drug, just one people should be very careful with. Faith in God has brought its share of trouble to humanity (remember the Inquisition? Probably not).
> I think your post is mostly irrelevant. Urban legends about kids being given LSD don't have much to do with psychopharmacology. LSD is not addictive in any way and if drug dealers gave drugs to kids it would probably not be this one. I'm sorry to be so blunt but your post contains all the paranoid anti-drug propaganda I despise. You need to get real scientific information. And here's a scoop, the DEA lies.
>
> Your problem sounds like obsessive-compulsive personnality disorder with a bit of narcissism and paranoia thrown in for good measure.
>
> Drugs that help with OCD (SSRIs and Anafranil)could help you if you don't consider drug therapy "evil". Sorry if I sound unsympathetic but, frankly, that's because I am unsympathetic.
>
> I sense a "Please be civil" warning coming for some reason.
>
>
>
>
> > I read where people were soaking tea leaves or marijuana and cigerettes in "embalming fliud" and they call it "wet" or "illie".
> > Those people start having auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations. They say it gives you the same thing as pcp and pcp is mixed with it sometime. Some people just soak electrical tape in the fluid and sell it.
> >
> > The people almost die everytime they smoke it and they like the feeling of that. They get naked, and start thinking people are out to get them and try to kill themself.
> >
> > Has anyone everdid that on here and survived to tell their experience and please also say why you did it.
> >
> > Were you scared did you hallucinate? It's supposed to be popular now;to have pcp mixed with marijuana now.
> >
> > I heard one guy on here say he smoked pot as I was reading.I am glad I can't be around smoke I have asthma.
> >
> > I am so afraid what my kids might be offered when they get older.
> >
> > They even said to be careful around here the elementary schools because older kids were giving out superhero looking stamps coated with LSD, and they were telling the kids, they were tattoos, to lick and stick on their skin. Can you imagine the evilness out there?
> >
> > LSD too, I have read can give you flashbacks.
> >
> > 3 kids died over here in florida because some kid found and gave out some pretty blue rocks and they sucked on them and died, it was rat poison.
> >
> > Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured. Is that an OCD? Or something else worse. I dont go thru rituals like OCD's. My mind did race more before.
> >
> > I have never been diagnosed, so what does this panel think about my condition, at least I am honest with myself. I control many things at work and home...but I don't believe I am god. I thought I was going be a nun at one point in my life to help people, but I like make-up and being pretty too, so that was out. I do think I am always right and people say I usually am. I am female.
> >
> > any suggestions? please help!
> > -DN (dom and Nars)
> > e-mail me if you want.
Posted by stjames on August 3, 2001, at 17:09:21
In reply to I read something real scary last night (drugs)HELP, posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 13:46:55
> I read where people were soaking tea leaves or marijuana and cigerettes in "embalming fliud" and they call it "wet" or "illie".
> Those people start having auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations. They say it gives you the same thing as pcp and pcp is mixed with it sometime. Some people just soak electrical tape in the fluid and sell it.James here....
Yep. Formalin will be broken down into DMT like substances. While DMT is not toxic Formalin is very toxic.
Posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 18:00:40
In reply to Re: I read something real scary last night (drugs)HELP, posted by stjames on August 3, 2001, at 17:09:21
Thank you stjames.... and to the other's dont hate me because I am beautiful and not fat,
have an I.Q. of 172 and "happy" to be a mommy and a Venus swimwear model. :)Sowhat, if I like to "role-play" and be dominant in sexy fetish vinyl attire, at least I have fun :)~
You are just down right insecure and mean to people you don't even know and that's unfair!You meanies should 'channel' the mean energy to something positive and fix up, do your nails, feel pretty and sexy and good about yourself for a change. Instead, you lash out with such hatred, I will pray for you and hope you get well soon.
with utmost sincerity and affection~
~the goldengoddess =)
>
> James here....
>
> Yep. Formalin will be broken down into DMT like substances. While DMT is not toxic Formalin is very toxic.
Posted by Else on August 3, 2001, at 18:28:09
In reply to Re: I read something real scary last night (drugs)HELP, posted by afatchic on August 3, 2001, at 16:03:36
> Else, you probably will be chastised but I have to admit you wrote what I thought. Perhaps this is just someone having fun with us
Gosh! I really hope so.
> > >Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured
> >
> > Yes. Authoritarian would be a better word though. LSD has been very beneficial to me in the past. It's not an "evil" drug, just one people should be very careful with. Faith in God has brought its share of trouble to humanity (remember the Inquisition? Probably not).
> > I think your post is mostly irrelevant. Urban legends about kids being given LSD don't have much to do with psychopharmacology. LSD is not addictive in any way and if drug dealers gave drugs to kids it would probably not be this one. I'm sorry to be so blunt but your post contains all the paranoid anti-drug propaganda I despise. You need to get real scientific information. And here's a scoop, the DEA lies.
> >
> > Your problem sounds like obsessive-compulsive personnality disorder with a bit of narcissism and paranoia thrown in for good measure.
> >
> > Drugs that help with OCD (SSRIs and Anafranil)could help you if you don't consider drug therapy "evil". Sorry if I sound unsympathetic but, frankly, that's because I am unsympathetic.
> >
> > I sense a "Please be civil" warning coming for some reason.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I read where people were soaking tea leaves or marijuana and cigerettes in "embalming fliud" and they call it "wet" or "illie".
> > > Those people start having auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations. They say it gives you the same thing as pcp and pcp is mixed with it sometime. Some people just soak electrical tape in the fluid and sell it.
> > >
> > > The people almost die everytime they smoke it and they like the feeling of that. They get naked, and start thinking people are out to get them and try to kill themself.
> > >
> > > Has anyone everdid that on here and survived to tell their experience and please also say why you did it.
> > >
> > > Were you scared did you hallucinate? It's supposed to be popular now;to have pcp mixed with marijuana now.
> > >
> > > I heard one guy on here say he smoked pot as I was reading.I am glad I can't be around smoke I have asthma.
> > >
> > > I am so afraid what my kids might be offered when they get older.
> > >
> > > They even said to be careful around here the elementary schools because older kids were giving out superhero looking stamps coated with LSD, and they were telling the kids, they were tattoos, to lick and stick on their skin. Can you imagine the evilness out there?
> > >
> > > LSD too, I have read can give you flashbacks.
> > >
> > > 3 kids died over here in florida because some kid found and gave out some pretty blue rocks and they sucked on them and died, it was rat poison.
> > >
> > > Does that make anyone else worry, sometimes I feel like I have to save the world because no one has faith in God anymore? I am narcissistic and dominant natured. Is that an OCD? Or something else worse. I dont go thru rituals like OCD's. My mind did race more before.
> > >
> > > I have never been diagnosed, so what does this panel think about my condition, at least I am honest with myself. I control many things at work and home...but I don't believe I am god. I thought I was going be a nun at one point in my life to help people, but I like make-up and being pretty too, so that was out. I do think I am always right and people say I usually am. I am female.
> > >
> > > any suggestions? please help!
> > > -DN (dom and Nars)
> > > e-mail me if you want.
Posted by Else on August 3, 2001, at 18:30:35
In reply to Thanks St.James xxxoooxxx=), posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 18:00:40
This will get me banned for sure but LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so dumb, arrogant and pathetic, words fail me.I think you're delusional too. Get thee to a psychiatric hospital!
> Thank you stjames.... and to the other's dont hate me because I am beautiful and not fat,
> have an I.Q. of 172 and "happy" to be a mommy and a Venus swimwear model. :)
>
> Sowhat, if I like to "role-play" and be dominant in sexy fetish vinyl attire, at least I have fun :)~
>
> You are just down right insecure and mean to people you don't even know and that's unfair!
>
> You meanies should 'channel' the mean energy to something positive and fix up, do your nails, feel pretty and sexy and good about yourself for a change. Instead, you lash out with such hatred, I will pray for you and hope you get well soon.
>
> with utmost sincerity and affection~
>
> ~the goldengoddess =)
>
> >
> > James here....
> >
> > Yep. Formalin will be broken down into DMT like substances. While DMT is not toxic Formalin is very toxic.
Posted by Zo on August 3, 2001, at 22:48:53
In reply to Thanks St.James xxxoooxxx=), posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 18:00:40
Okay, I get it. . this is a put-on. We must be meant to be amused.
No, I know! It's. . .it's. . .Dr. Bob! Testing the very marrow of our "civility."
Zo
> You meanies should 'channel' the mean energy to something positive and fix up, do your nails, feel pretty and sexy and good about yourself for a change. Instead, you lash out with such hatred, I will pray for you and hope you get well soon.
>
> with utmost sincerity and affection~
>
> ~the goldengoddess =)
Posted by jotho on August 4, 2001, at 7:29:37
In reply to Thanks St.James xxxoooxxx=), posted by gldngodess on August 3, 2001, at 18:00:40
Off the scale! All I can say is, HUH?
Hey, Dr. Bob....perhaps a little input here?
Posted by Else on August 4, 2001, at 13:30:34
In reply to Re: Thanks St.James xxxoooxxx=) » gldngodess, posted by jotho on August 4, 2001, at 7:29:37
This person (gg) has really tested my civility. I am sad to report I couldn't help but be uncivil but sometimes it's just too much to ask.
> Off the scale! All I can say is, HUH?
>
> Hey, Dr. Bob....perhaps a little input here?
Posted by gldngodess on August 4, 2001, at 14:17:36
In reply to Re: Thanks St.James xxxoooxxx=) » gldngodess, posted by jotho on August 4, 2001, at 7:29:37
What does the DEA have to do with anything or how they lie. My Dad worked at DEA and FDA AND THEY DON'T LIE?
Else...just because you professed that LSD works for you and that I am paranoid, is saying something about your character.
Four 3rd graders were admitted to the emergency room near my home, who were given little squares with superheros on it by a skinny white-trailer park trashy woman with rotten teeth and an ugly face all poc marked, now I know who it was, YOU!
Only people who advocates illicit drug use and hate happy people, with great bodies and beautiful faces, HAVE to be the harbingers of grotesque, rotten, ugly, evilness to poison kids because they hate who they are.
Dope-addled people are rebellious(gee, I am sorry you got raped by your father at six in your trailer park) but you don't have to hate and push your ugly habits on the innocent. It is time for us highly moraled and happy people to protect or babies from people who believe in infanticide. I know you are 'prochoice' as well(several times), the way you dispise everything, it is evident that you are turning against yourself. Which makes you aggressive to others. I know about your past relationships,how those guys gave you herpes and vaginal warts, that now who have to live with and that they made you prostitute yourself for drug money.
I know who you are "else" why don't you fess up and tell everyone your real name and why you are so messed up neurochemically, because of all the drugs and how everyone crapped on you, and how you look now etc., TELL EVERYONE LESLIE. IT'S OKAY, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR!
Don't pretend or try to block out your self hatered with drugs illicit and prescribed and how you tried killing yourself more than once...Please we are here to walk you through this, leave the past in the past, God forgives you and so should you forgive yourself. Then, you can possibly be happy one day and one more day...step by step we are here.Instead of shunning us, we can help you with open arms. Everybody makes mistakes sometime. Remember the past, and then put closure on it, now...let's move on.
You really can be so sweet when you want to, I remember those times. I tried to help you get help but you went off with that drug dealer guy and I have not seen you since. Thanks for letting me remember it was you from your email.
love~ goldengoddess
Posted by Else on August 4, 2001, at 14:27:03
In reply to I love kids worry about LSD givien to them. Else » jotho, posted by gldngodess on August 4, 2001, at 14:17:36
LOL. Now I know you're a joke for sure. No actual REAL person could be as demented as this. I refuse to believe it.
> What does the DEA have to do with anything or how they lie. My Dad worked at DEA and FDA AND THEY DON'T LIE?
>
> Else...just because you professed that LSD works for you and that I am paranoid, is saying something about your character.
>
> Four 3rd graders were admitted to the emergency room near my home, who were given little squares with superheros on it by a skinny white-trailer park trashy woman with rotten teeth and an ugly face all poc marked, now I know who it was, YOU!
>
> Only people who advocates illicit drug use and hate happy people, with great bodies and beautiful faces, HAVE to be the harbingers of grotesque, rotten, ugly, evilness to poison kids because they hate who they are.
>
> Dope-addled people are rebellious(gee, I am sorry you got raped by your father at six in your trailer park) but you don't have to hate and push your ugly habits on the innocent. It is time for us highly moraled and happy people to protect or babies from people who believe in infanticide. I know you are 'prochoice' as well(several times), the way you dispise everything, it is evident that you are turning against yourself. Which makes you aggressive to others. I know about your past relationships,how those guys gave you herpes and vaginal warts, that now who have to live with and that they made you prostitute yourself for drug money.
> I know who you are "else" why don't you fess up and tell everyone your real name and why you are so messed up neurochemically, because of all the drugs and how everyone crapped on you, and how you look now etc., TELL EVERYONE LESLIE. IT'S OKAY, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR!
>
>
> Don't pretend or try to block out your self hatered with drugs illicit and prescribed and how you tried killing yourself more than once...Please we are here to walk you through this, leave the past in the past, God forgives you and so should you forgive yourself. Then, you can possibly be happy one day and one more day...step by step we are here.
>
> Instead of shunning us, we can help you with open arms. Everybody makes mistakes sometime. Remember the past, and then put closure on it, now...let's move on.
>
> You really can be so sweet when you want to, I remember those times. I tried to help you get help but you went off with that drug dealer guy and I have not seen you since. Thanks for letting me remember it was you from your email.
>
> love~ goldengoddess
>
Posted by jotho on August 4, 2001, at 14:57:01
In reply to Re: I love kids worry about LSD givien to them. Else » gldngodess, posted by Else on August 4, 2001, at 14:27:03
Else...
Either I am witness to the most unfunny, foul-intentioned prank I have ever seen, or I have found, after reading hundreds of these posts, the person most in need of immediate help...agree? Dr. Bob, where are you?
jotho
Posted by Else on August 4, 2001, at 15:02:05
In reply to Else, posted by jotho on August 4, 2001, at 14:57:01
> Else...
> Either I am witness to the most unfunny, foul-intentioned prank I have ever seen, or I have found, after reading hundreds of these posts, the person most in need of immediate help...agree? Dr. Bob, where are you?
> jothoThis is just what I was thinking. Either this person has a very poor sense of humor or is desperately ill. I can't tell for sure though. I don't have the training.
Posted by gldngodess on August 4, 2001, at 23:45:37
In reply to Re: Else » jotho, posted by Else on August 4, 2001, at 15:02:05
> > Else...
> > Either I am witness to the most unfunny, foul-intentioned prank I have ever seen, or I have found, after reading hundreds of these posts, the person most in need of immediate help...agree? Dr. Bob, where are you?
> > jotho
>
> This is just what I was thinking. Either this person has a very poor sense of humor or is desperately ill. I can't tell for sure though. I don't have the training.I don't know if you are refering to me , but if you are that's okay. I am so used to people being jealous of my looks, my accomplishments and my accolade of scientific acheivements...I'll tell you a secret....(shuuussshh) people's envy excites me, it's a turn on. (hehheh) kissy-poo to both of you!
which one of you takes depakote...eww...that means you are violent...ickky-eww-poo-poo.
~me....... (sigh).........
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 5, 2001, at 20:17:05
In reply to Re: Else, posted by gldngodess on August 4, 2001, at 23:45:37
> I think your post is mostly irrelevant... I'm sorry to be so blunt but your post contains all the paranoid anti-drug propaganda I despise...
>
> Sorry if I sound unsympathetic but, frankly, that's because I am unsympathetic.
>
> I sense a "Please be civil" warning coming for some reason.> This will get me banned for sure but LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so dumb, arrogant and pathetic, words fail me.I think you're delusional too.
> This person ... has really tested my civility. I am sad to report I couldn't help but be uncivil but sometimes it's just too much to ask.
> LOL. Now I know you're a joke for sure. No actual REAL person could be as demented as this...
----
> You are just down right insecure and mean to people you don't even know and that's unfair!
> Four 3rd graders were admitted to the emergency room near my home, who were given little squares with superheros on it by a skinny white-trailer park trashy woman with rotten teeth and an ugly face all poc marked, now I know who it was, YOU!...
> which one of you takes depakote...eww...that means you are violent...ickky-eww-poo-poo.
I've already asked both of you please to be civil, so I'm going to try to block you from posting. I'll try to unblock you in two weeks. If you can't help but be uncivil, then please find a different source of support. Thanks,
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding civility should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.
Posted by Shar on August 6, 2001, at 0:58:46
In reply to Re: blocked from posting » Else, gldngodess, posted by Dr. Bob on August 5, 2001, at 20:17:05
This thread had a post that asked who had done certain drugs and why and some other questions.
Every time someone asks if others have used illegal drugs, a little alarm goes off in my head. While it might be interesting to explore the issue, it seems unwise to confess to a felony on a message board.
Just a thought.
Shar
Posted by Elizabeth on August 6, 2001, at 12:04:08
In reply to A little advice about drugs, posted by Shar on August 6, 2001, at 0:58:46
> Every time someone asks if others have used illegal drugs, a little alarm goes off in my head. While it might be interesting to explore the issue, it seems unwise to confess to a felony on a message board.
And a little rude to expect someone to do so. I mean, people give me a hard time just for using a legitimately prescribed drug that they don't approve of.
-elizabeth
Posted by Cam W. on August 6, 2001, at 12:52:52
In reply to Re: A little advice about drugs » Shar, posted by Elizabeth on August 6, 2001, at 12:04:08
Elizabeth - I found an article that might interest you on Neuroscion ( http:www.neuroscion.com ). Register, if you haven't; the journals in the library are fantastic, but very technical.
Role of endogenous opioid system in the regulation of the stress response
Guy Drolet, Eric C. Dumont, Isabelle Gosselin, Richard Kinkead, Sylvie Laforest &
Jean-Francois Trottier Progress in Neuro-Psychopharmacology and Biological Psychiatry,
2001, 25:4:729-741There are other articles in the same issue of Progress in Neuro-Pyschopharmacology and Biological Psychiatry that relate to depression (and the immune system, for instance).
Hope that this is of some help. - Cam
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