Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 69602

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Zyprexa

Posted by NikkiT2 on July 10, 2001, at 11:35:43

I'm finding this incredibly sedating... its working, my brain is much calmer, to a point of zombyfication though!!! I can hardly move, and just want to lay there and snooze the whole time....

I'm seeing pdoc tomorrow (late notice I know) but will this side affect get better, or do I need something to "perk me up"... I like being calmer and less suicidally mad...

Nikki

ps - I combine it with 300mg Effexor

 

Re: Zyprexa » NikkiT2

Posted by SalArmy4me on July 10, 2001, at 13:31:00

In reply to Zyprexa, posted by NikkiT2 on July 10, 2001, at 11:35:43

How long have you been taking the Zyprexa, and how much are you taking?

 

Re: Zyprexa

Posted by Zo on July 10, 2001, at 15:13:12

In reply to Zyprexa, posted by NikkiT2 on July 10, 2001, at 11:35:43

Tho your mileage may be varying. .. just to let you know, the combination of Effexor and Zyprexa - ONE Xyprexa at bed - was not sedating at all for me. TWO Zyprexa, however, zoned me out the next day, only took that much if I was really messed up.

Good luck,
Zo

 

Re: Zyprexa

Posted by ChrisK on July 11, 2001, at 5:15:42

In reply to Zyprexa, posted by NikkiT2 on July 10, 2001, at 11:35:43

I hope you are taking the Zyprexa in the evening. I found that the sedating effects tended to clear up after about a month. I think it just took that long for my body to adjust. I still got a good nights sleep but wasn't groggy in the morning.

 

Re: Zyprexa

Posted by NikkiT2 on July 11, 2001, at 12:37:18

In reply to Re: Zyprexa, posted by ChrisK on July 11, 2001, at 5:15:42

I take 2.5mg 3 times a day... yeah, great nights lseep - but 18 hours doesn't help me get back to work!!!

Only been on it a week.. and it is most certainly helping... if it wasn't for the sleepiness!!

Nikki


> I hope you are taking the Zyprexa in the evening. I found that the sedating effects tended to clear up after about a month. I think it just took that long for my body to adjust. I still got a good nights sleep but wasn't groggy in the morning.

 

Re: Zyprexa » NikkiT2

Posted by Elizabeth on July 15, 2001, at 18:21:53

In reply to Zyprexa, posted by NikkiT2 on July 10, 2001, at 11:35:43

> I'm finding this incredibly sedating... its working, my brain is much calmer, to a point of zombyfication though!!! I can hardly move, and just want to lay there and snooze the whole
time....

It's a really strong antihistamine (and dopamine antagonist). I'd suggest starting at a low dose and increasing it very slowly. It really doesn't need to be taken 3 times a day; once a day (at bedtime, of course!) is the recommended schedule. If you started at 2.5 mg at bedtime, you might find that was enough, or you might need to go up to 5 or 7.5 after you adjusted to the sedation.

Good luck with it.

-elizabeth

 

Re: Zyprexa

Posted by Willow on July 15, 2001, at 20:37:11

In reply to Re: Zyprexa » NikkiT2, posted by Elizabeth on July 15, 2001, at 18:21:53

Does it affect the liver, kidneys, etc?

Willow

 

Re: Zyprexa

Posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 2:35:36

In reply to Re: Zyprexa, posted by Willow on July 15, 2001, at 20:37:11

No: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/olanzapine_wcp.htm#P

> Does it affect the liver, kidneys, etc?
>
> Willow

 

Zyprexa or Ativan

Posted by Willow on July 16, 2001, at 14:46:54

In reply to Re: Zyprexa, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 2:35:36

> No: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/olanzapine_wcp.htm#P
>
> > Does it affect the liver, kidneys, etc?


I've checked listings such as the one above but don't understand all the terms. The one above was good because it had an automatic dictionary. The reason I'm asking is that my father's urine has gone brown, and I'm just making the assumption that it is some organ that produces urine. He feels that it is the zyprexa. I'll start working on getting him to the doctor's or is this something his psychiatrist can handle?

Little Willow

 

Re: Zyprexa or Ativan

Posted by Else on July 17, 2001, at 6:42:08

In reply to Zyprexa or Ativan, posted by Willow on July 16, 2001, at 14:46:54

> > No: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/olanzapine_wcp.htm#P
> >
> > > Does it affect the liver, kidneys, etc?
>
>
> I've checked listings such as the one above but don't understand all the terms. The one above was good because it had an automatic dictionary. The reason I'm asking is that my father's urine has gone brown, and I'm just making the assumption that it is some organ that produces urine. He feels that it is the zyprexa. I'll start working on getting him to the doctor's or is this something his psychiatrist can handle?
>
> Little Willow

His psychiatrist is supposed to be an MD and can reffer him to a proper specialist if needed.

 

Re: Zyprexa or Ativan

Posted by Willow on July 17, 2001, at 12:28:30

In reply to Re: Zyprexa or Ativan, posted by Else on July 17, 2001, at 6:42:08

Thanks Else! I guess when it comes to family members we don't always think clearly, plus it's a hard getting him out of the house let alone the doctor.

Willow

 

Re: brown urine » Willow

Posted by Cam W. on July 18, 2001, at 10:04:30

In reply to Zyprexa or Ativan, posted by Willow on July 16, 2001, at 14:46:54

Willow - The brown urine that your father is passing should be looked into; it could be red blood cells. Best to have it checked out, or take a urine sample to the lab (call the pdoc for a requisition) and your dad won't even have to leave home.

- Cam

P.S. Thank God it isn't the brown acid.

 

Cam

Posted by Willow on July 18, 2001, at 12:27:42

In reply to Re: brown urine » Willow, posted by Cam W. on July 18, 2001, at 10:04:30

Thanks Cam, I was hoping you would see the post. I posted earlier but it got archived fairly quickly.

I just told him about the requistion and he said it wasn't neccessary that he was okay. Now I get to be the parent; he has options, pee in bottle, go to doctor, or I attend his psych appointment. He'll choose to pee in bottle. Men, such big babies! :0

Were you on holidays! I was just going to post asking if the boss had banned you for some slight.

Willow

 

Re: Willow » Willow

Posted by Cam W. on July 18, 2001, at 14:38:03

In reply to Cam, posted by Willow on July 18, 2001, at 12:27:42

Willow - Just came back from teaching square dancing to tourists as a volunteer at the Calgary Stampede, for the 14th year. Also, I returned to work this week, so I haven't been able to get much free time on the computer (and when I do, I have no energy to think through some of the tougher answers).

Lurking, but quiet - Cam

 

Square dancing ...

Posted by Willow on July 18, 2001, at 22:11:15

In reply to Re: Willow » Willow, posted by Cam W. on July 18, 2001, at 14:38:03

Is it the square dancing that has tired you out or could it be the effexor or circumstances. Either way look after yourself, we don't want to lose you completely.

Did you get any of that wild weather? I think you must have blown it east, because we're suppose to get thunder by the weekend.

Northern Willow

ps i was able to blow hard enough

 

Re: Square dancing and Effexor » Willow

Posted by Cam W. on July 19, 2001, at 9:59:36

In reply to Square dancing ..., posted by Willow on July 18, 2001, at 22:11:15

Willow - The square dancing at least got me off of my butt and actually doing something. This Effexor is turning me into a "couch slug" (like a couch potato, but is able to roll over to sleep better). It does take some effort to initiate projects (mowing lawn, weeding garden, etc.), but once I get going I am okay.

This hasn't helped my karate. I am supposed to be preparing for my black belt test for next spring (believe me, that's not enough time under ordinary circumstances), but I will probably have to postpone it for a year.

Actually, although I feel as if I have the "brain-fog" that is talked about, but I find that it is not that hard to think through this fog; thoughts seem to come more effortlessly, than when I was depressed. I find now that if I don't try to think about something too hard, the answer I am looking for seems to come to me.

BTW - The weather for Stampede was HOT!! Three days in a row of +30 C to +35 C (about 200 F for you yankees). Try dancing with sweating old ladies in 90 F heat on cement and ashphalt, with absolutely no shade. You have one hand on her pulse (so you can watch for heat stroke) and at the same time you are trying to follow the caller, while you try to open your sweat-induced, stinging eyes.

This is made particularily worse by the daily pre-dance ritual of having (at least) 3 beer before 9:30am, go dance, and then replacing all the body water you lose with more beer. I do not like how I feel drinking alcohol with Effexor. I really don't seem to get drunk, only bloated and blah.

(a recovering) Cam

 

Re: brown urine

Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 12:08:05

In reply to Re: brown urine » Willow, posted by Cam W. on July 18, 2001, at 10:04:30

> Willow - The brown urine that your father is passing should be looked into; it could be red blood cells.

Yeah, I agree. Bloody urine can be a sign of real trouble sometimes.

> P.S. Thank God it isn't the brown acid.

I'd say that "don't take the brown urine" is an equally valid rule of thumb.

-elizabeth

 

Re: Square dancing and Effexor » Cam W.

Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 12:10:37

In reply to Re: Square dancing and Effexor » Willow, posted by Cam W. on July 19, 2001, at 9:59:36

> This Effexor is turning me into a "couch slug" (like a couch potato, but is able to roll over to sleep better). It does take some effort to initiate projects (mowing lawn, weeding garden, etc.), but once I get going I am okay.

That sort of apathy/lethargy seems to be common with SSRIs (and Effexor is sort of an SSRI-plus). I wonder if there's a way around it.

> I find now that if I don't try to think about something too hard, the answer I am looking for seems to come to me.

I think that's always true!

-elizabeth

 

Re: Effexor brain fog

Posted by pellmell on July 19, 2001, at 17:07:08

In reply to Re: Square dancing and Effexor » Willow, posted by Cam W. on July 19, 2001, at 9:59:36

Hello all,

Yeah, I've been on 150mg Effexor XR for about a month now, and I think I've got that "brain-fog" as well. Some days I'm sharper than others. Slowed thinking and social inhibition are two major ingredients in my brand of depression, though, so while I'm feeling far less anxeity these days and my mood is vastly improved, this slowbrainedness is working against my recovery.

For the record, I felt extremely sharp on both Prozac and Zoloft when I took them in the past.

So, my question: do you think a doseage *increase* would help burn away the fog? My therapist thinks I might have some form of ADD to begin with (though my pdoc isn't so sure; I'll be getting a complete personality profile soon. Woo.), so maybe the increased NE reuptake inhibition that comes with a higher dose of Effexor would help..? Or is this brain-fog a side-effect that's likely to just get denser as one swallows more Effexor?

I see my pdoc on Tuesday, but I'd be grateful for an opinion or two before I do.

Thanks bunches,

-pm


> Actually, although I feel as if I have the "brain-fog" that is talked about, but I find that it is not that hard to think through this fog; thoughts seem to come more effortlessly, than when I was depressed. I find now that if I don't try to think about something too hard, the answer I am looking for seems to come to me.

 

Re: Effexor brain fog

Posted by Willow on July 19, 2001, at 21:41:12

In reply to Re: Effexor brain fog, posted by pellmell on July 19, 2001, at 17:07:08

> Yeah, I've been on 150mg Effexor XR for about a month now, and I think I've got that "brain-fog" as well.

For me the effexor cleared up any forms of cyclones or fog. Except at around 75mg to 112mg I became a happy couch potatoe, no anxiety yet no motivation and the sleeping was an issue. Though once I went upto 150mg everything clicked into place. I still have issues with stamina, but I am content to sit out the fast ones and clap to the beat.

High Willow

ps i skipped a whole day of the meds and the next morning woke up hung over and buzzed at the same time.


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