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Posted by dennis on February 15, 2001, at 20:40:19
We have all been tricked by the US government! Do not trust the US federal government! They are evil! The evidence is all right there in front of your face if you look for it. I will find a link to some info to provide you with more proof. Later.
Posted by SLS on February 15, 2001, at 21:27:53
In reply to Man Never Landed On The Moon! It Was All Fake, posted by dennis on February 15, 2001, at 20:40:19
> We have all been tricked by the US government! Do not trust the US federal government! They are evil! The evidence is all right there in front of your face if you look for it. I will find a link to some info to provide you with more proof. Later.
I know. They used me as an understudy for the part of Buz Aldrin, played by Gina Davis. I wanted to play the part of Michael Collins. Less work. I wouldn't have had to be on camera that much, and the Actor's Guild would have insured parity in my salary. They gave that part to Erol Flynne's bastard son, Neil Armstrong. Damned industry politics. Neil Armstrong was played by Buz Aldrin. Go figure.
- Scott
Posted by Cam W. on February 15, 2001, at 23:01:16
In reply to Re: Man Never Landed On The Moon! It Was All Fake, posted by SLS on February 15, 2001, at 21:27:53
Don't encourage him Scott.
BTW - Howya doin' buddy. I'm trying to get through all my e-mails, but too much happening. I do see your e-mail in my paper pile everyday. Actually I do have some anwers to your post-synaptic 5-HT1B heteroreceptors questions. I just can't remember what your questions were. The latest issue of the Journal of Neurochemistry (or was it the Jan issue) has a free online article on 5-HT1B pre- & post-synaptic receptors at:
To keep this post more legit to PB. I hear that they pulled the weekly Prozac because of heart concerns (QT interval problems, I believe). You here anything?
I am thinking about you, but like the bad son I am, I never write - Cam
Posted by dennis on February 16, 2001, at 0:52:12
In reply to They Went to Give the Man in the Moon a Facelift » SLS, posted by Cam W. on February 15, 2001, at 23:01:16
I understand this is not the typical subject to talk about here but I still think its important because this is the world we live in, I think its important to know if we really went to the moon or not, and from the evidence I dont believe that we did ever made it to the moon, we need to be able to trust our government, I think the government has got a lot of explaining to do, I am simply trying to show people the truth here, if Dr. Bob wants to delete my thread and block me then so be it.
theres a few websites out there to look at, I am not going to give you any because you can find them yourself pretty easily, but I will try to give you some of the main points,
1.the lunar spacecraft has 10000 pounds of thrust from its main engine, this amount of thrust should have created a big crater underneath the craft after it landed on the moon, but from the video there was no crater at all, also when the craft landed it should have stirred up a bunch of dust which should have then settled on the landing legs of the craft, but they were perfectly clean, no dust on them at all
2. the american flag was blowing in the wind in the video, there is just one problem, there is no atmosphere on the moon, there is no wind at all on the moon, so how was the flag blowing?
3. there are no stars in the sky in the video, absolutly no stars at all, not only should there have been stars in the sky but they should have been extra bright stars because they were on the moon and there is nothing to dull the brightness of the stars on the moon, its like being in space
4. at the time they were having a very hard time figureing out how to get to the moon, their lunar spacecraft was unstable and crashed 6 times in a row, at the time the technology was just not good enough, someone said they had about a 1% chance of ever making it to the moon or something like that but you get the general idea
5. if you look at the ground area right outside of area 51 compared to the ground pictures in the video of the moon landing they are the same, there are small craters in area 51 that look exactly the same as in the video
6. there was tremendous pressure at the time to get to the moon, it was at the top of the priority list and under the circumstances it would have been a thousand times easier to just fake the moon landing than actually do it for real, the effect of a fake video would have the same effect as doing it for real
7. they could never survive the radiation of space without the earths atmosphere to protect them
8. there is only one source of light on the moon and that is the sun, so why do the shadows go in different directions, why are there lights coming from all directions
9. if you look at the video it seems that the people are walking with less gravity, they are sort of bounceing around when they walk, but if you speed up the video to twice the speed it looks exactly how it would look if a person was running on earth, also the little dune buggy cars that they had look like they are driving on earth as well
Posted by NikkiT2 on February 16, 2001, at 8:36:05
In reply to Re: Man Never Landed On The Moon!, posted by dennis on February 16, 2001, at 0:52:12
It's not really a medication issue..
And I don't need you to show me any truth.. you really are quite a strange one...
Posted by SLS on February 16, 2001, at 10:09:46
In reply to They Went to Give the Man in the Moon a Facelift » SLS, posted by Cam W. on February 15, 2001, at 23:01:16
> Don't encourage him Scott.
Ouch. I thought it was a joke similar to the to the lead balloon I tossed out regarding the location of a sense of humor.
> BTW - Howya doin' buddy
Thanks for asking, Cam.
I have not been well, and I am very, very disappointed that the addition of Risperdal 1.0mg - 2.0mg did not stick. I did glean some sort of antidepressant effect that was episodic, but the degree of improvement waned and has left me with nothing. I have been taking Risperdal for over two months. I know of someone took it for two to three months before experiencing a significant and steady improvement. I think it was worth the investment of time.
Finding a partial improvement with the optimism of it to continue is great to experience, but demoralizing to lose. Sometimes worse.
I am not sure where I am going next. If Risperdal had provided me with a partial and steady improvement, I would probably ask to add Mirapex. Right now, my goal is to switch over from desipramine to nortriptyline and to discontinue Parnate in favor of some other drug, Nardil or Effexor come to mind. Also, I would definitely be interested in trying ziprasidone based on my partial positive responses to both Zyprexa and Risperdal.
By the way, I read somewhere that the diabetes and insulin insensitivity sometime brought about by olanzapine or clozapine is due to these drugs' actions at 5-HT1b receptors on the beta cells (Islets of Langherhans) of the pancreas.
- Scott
Posted by Cam W. on February 16, 2001, at 11:02:59
In reply to Miscellaneous Lunar Issues - Stop Thread Request, posted by SLS on February 16, 2001, at 10:09:46
Scott - Are you thinking about beta3-adrenergic receptors? They are expressed primarily in fat (adipose) tissue, where they regulate energy metabolism and thermogenesis (turning fat into heat and energy). It is signalled by norepinephrine.
I believe that the Pima Indians from Arizona and certain Japanese people have genetic varients of this receptor. This varient constitutes a suseptibility factor for the onset of morbid obesity (as well as non-insulin-dependent diabetes).
Someone, I can't remember who, is working on an obesity treatment by stimulating metabolism (ie via burning off fat stores). This was a while ago and I haven't heard what has happened to this research.
Silbutramine increases norepinephrine peripherally at the beta3-adrenergic receptors in fat tissue. This stimulates thermogenesis and oxygen consumption, supposedly leading to weight loss. I haven't heard any extraordinary claims about this drug, though (yet). Perhaps adding them to 5-HT2C receptor agonists will increase it's potency (when they find aa selective effective and safe 5-HT2C receptor agonist).
Talk to you soon - Cam
Posted by dennis on February 16, 2001, at 12:13:30
In reply to Beta3-Adrenergic Receptors, posted by Cam W. on February 16, 2001, at 11:02:59
I am leaving forever, I will not bother you people anymore or ruin the precious medical environment of this board. Your right I am strange and im proud of it. I will probebly grow up to be one of those crazy people how believes in all sorts of different conspiracy theorys, and you know what, I will probebly be right about most of them. There are always going to be people like me out there, and one day were gonna take over the world! Thats called natural selection, I learned that in school! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by SLS on February 16, 2001, at 20:13:47
In reply to Beta3-Adrenergic Receptors, posted by Cam W. on February 16, 2001, at 11:02:59
Hi Cam.
> > By the way, I read somewhere that the diabetes and insulin insensitivity sometime brought about by olanzapine or clozapine is due to these drugs' actions at 5-HT1b receptors on the beta cells (Islets of Langherhans) of the pancreas.> Scott - Are you thinking about beta3-adrenergic receptors? They are expressed primarily in fat (adipose) tissue, where they regulate energy metabolism and thermogenesis (turning fat into heat and energy). It is signalled by norepinephrine.
ago and I haven't heard what has happened to this research.> Silbutramine increases norepinephrine peripherally at the beta3-adrenergic receptors in fat tissue. This stimulates thermogenesis and oxygen consumption, supposedly leading to weight loss. I haven't heard any extraordinary claims about this drug, though (yet). Perhaps adding them to 5-HT2C receptor agonists will increase it's potency (when they find aa selective effective and safe 5-HT2C receptor agonist).
I can't remember where I read this, if I indeed read it at all. The reference definitely involved the pancreatic beta cells. When I looked back on Medline, I couldn't find anything on it. I guess I read it in a PB dream. Oh well, never mind. :-)
- Scott
Posted by Bradley on February 16, 2001, at 23:06:30
In reply to Re: Dennis is gone forever! Goodbye , posted by dennis on February 16, 2001, at 12:13:30
Don't let the door hit your fanny on the way out!!!
> I am leaving forever, I will not bother you people anymore or ruin the precious medical environment of this board. Your right I am strange and im proud of it. I will probebly grow up to be one of those crazy people how believes in all sorts of different conspiracy theorys, and you know what, I will probebly be right about most of them. There are always going to be people like me out there, and one day were gonna take over the world! Thats called natural selection, I learned that in school! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2001, at 2:20:06
In reply to THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND!!!!!!!!!, posted by Bradley on February 16, 2001, at 23:06:30
> I am simply trying to show people the truth here, if Dr. Bob wants to delete my thread and block me then so be it.
Remember, this board is for medication-related issues...
> Don't let the door hit your fanny on the way out!!!
And for mutual support...
Bob
Posted by Noa on February 17, 2001, at 12:15:04
In reply to Re: please stick to medication and support here, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2001, at 2:20:06
That is interesting. I am intrigued and confused by all the info about hormones and meds and fat and insulin, etc. It seems so complex.
Scott, sorry you aren't well.
It is unfortunate that it wasn't a joke that Dennis wrote, but I gotta say, your response was very funny.
I hope Dennis gets some help.
Posted by Dave@MT on February 17, 2001, at 14:54:14
In reply to Re: please stick to medication and support here, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2001, at 2:20:06
> > I am simply trying to show people the truth here, if Dr. Bob wants to delete my thread and block me then so be it.
>
> Remember, this board is for medication-related issues...
>
> > Don't let the door hit your fanny on the way out!!!
>
> And for mutual support...
>
> BobGood job Doc!
Dave@MT
Posted by pat123 on February 17, 2001, at 18:41:45
In reply to THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND!!!!!!!!!, posted by Bradley on February 16, 2001, at 23:06:30
There are always going to be people like me out there, and one day were gonna take over the world! Thats called natural selection, I learned that in school! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Then you did not learn about Darwin's "Origin of the Species" or his theories of "natural selection" correctly.Pat
Posted by Buffet on February 19, 2001, at 11:35:02
In reply to Man Never Landed On The Moon! It Was All Fake, posted by dennis on February 15, 2001, at 20:40:19
> We have all been tricked by the US government! Do not trust the US federal government! They are evil! The evidence is all right there in front of your face if you look for it. I will find a link to some info to provide you with more proof. Later.
I've been to the moon! They take me there. The greys want me to expose the government coverup. It's all lies, lies I tell you! You have all been mislead. The grey men will show you, but they only show the truth to important people. I'm important because I'm the one that is going to save the world during WW3. They tell me that. Give me your address and I'll send them your way! You could be one of the important ones dennis, like me. I must go now.
Posted by Neal on February 21, 2001, at 4:08:59
In reply to Your right, but I've been there., posted by Buffet on February 19, 2001, at 11:35:02
Lunar. Moon. Lunatic. It all fits, somehow.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 22, 2001, at 1:10:00
In reply to Re: Luna-tic, posted by Neal on February 21, 2001, at 4:08:59
> Lunar. Moon. Lunatic. It all fits, somehow.
Please, no making fun of others, thanks.
Bob
PS: Follow-ups to this, if any, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by pat123 on February 23, 2001, at 16:34:02
In reply to Man Never Landed On The Moon! It Was All Fake, posted by dennis on February 15, 2001, at 20:40:19
> We have all been tricked by the US government! Do not trust the US federal government! They are evil! The evidence is all right there in front of your face if you look for it. I will find a link to some info to provide you with more proof. Later.
Sigh. Go to http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/
to debug this.Pat
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