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Posted by Pam on February 9, 2001, at 12:14:57
I have been having success with 900 mg. of Neurontin at night for sleep. But now my hair is falling out! Can anyone suggest a substitute ? I tried Trazadone , but it made me too dizzy. Thanks!
Posted by allisonm on February 9, 2001, at 13:27:58
In reply to I need a substitute for neurontin for sleep!, posted by Pam on February 9, 2001, at 12:14:57
I used Remeron before Neurontin. Neurontin helps with sleep, but Remeron really helped -- sometimes too much. It's an AD while Neurontin is not ... do you have depression?
Some people use Serzone, but I haven't tried it. There's a tips page on Remeron. For Serzone, you might search the archives.
Good luck.
Posted by JennyR on February 9, 2001, at 19:35:55
In reply to Re: I need a substitute for neurontin for sleep!, posted by allisonm on February 9, 2001, at 13:27:58
I was given Ambien for sleep (to counteract the stimulating effects of Wellbutrin) but that would wear off after about 4 hours and I'd be up. Now I'm on Klonipin instead which helps a lot.
Posted by SalArmy4me on February 10, 2001, at 5:56:19
In reply to Re: I need a substitute for neurontin for sleep!, posted by JennyR on February 9, 2001, at 19:35:55
I believe that Remeron is the best choice for that purpose, too.
I started Remeron at 60 mg right away and had no side-effects. Here are the benefits of Remeron:
--It can be used for all types of depression, anxiety, OCD, and insomnia.
--It is convienient because it is taken only once at bedtime.
--It may improve libido and sexual performance (its the only medication that improves mine). Dr. Bob Hsieung's fellow doctors recommend it for sexual dysfunction.
--It has none of the anticholinergic effects of SSRIs.
--It has gained recognition from psychiatrists in only four years of FDA approval.See the Organon website for further information.
Posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 14:26:00
In reply to Re: I need a substitute for neurontin for sleep!, posted by SalArmy4me on February 10, 2001, at 5:56:19
"I believe that Remeron is the best choice for that purpose, too."
I'm having success with Effexor, but it's hard for me to get to sleep. My awake time is extending into the night instead of the morning. (Hypersomnia/fatigue have been my main problems. cognitive problems my most dreaded which the effexor is helping.)
Does remeron lose its ability to make one sleepy?
Has it anyone had the side-effect of irritability with it?
Does it affect your mood/personality?
Is it available in Canada?
Posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 14:47:17
In reply to Remeron for sleep!, posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 14:26:00
> Does remeron lose its ability to make one sleepy?
It never did for me.> Has it anyone had the side-effect of irritability with it?
It didn't for me.> Does it affect your mood/personality?
It's an AD, so is supposed to affect mood. It helped me, but not completely. Effexor and Remeron is supposed to be a potent combination.> Is it available in Canada?
Unfortunately, I don't think so.
Posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 17:37:11
In reply to Re: Remeron for sleep!, posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 14:47:17
For myself I have all the physical symptoms of depression and anxiety, plus cognitive problems (and probably some more.) My mood isn't affected, yet ADs help the some of the symptoms but also alter my mood. They make me depressed and irritable. I've seen post where remeron had been used with effexor, which hasn't really affected my mood in a negative manner, so I was hoping perhaps it too wouldn't have an effect on my mood. Worth trying though I can always stop it. I'm going to ask my doctor for something to help get my sleep back in order. Perhaps I should ask the pharmascist first because they would know what can work with the drugs I'm taking?
Posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 18:34:07
In reply to Allison * AD's and mood, posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 17:37:11
What kind of doctor are you seeing? Does he know about these drugs you are taking?
Posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:08:59
In reply to Re: Allison * AD's and mood » willow, posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 18:34:07
My family doctor prescribes my medication. There's only one psychiatrist in the city closest to me that doctors refer to. I don't understand how it works because there are more, they're affiliated with our psych hospital. I had called the clinic my father (he has schizophrenia) goes to and they told me that couldn't treat me because CFS isn't a mental illness. So I've chose to pay to see a psychologist. He doesn't know anything about prescriptions though.
Posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 21:24:39
In reply to Re: Allison * AD's and mood, posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:08:59
I see now. It's just that regular family doctors aren't as knowledgeable about ADs, and from what I have seen have caused a lot of people on this board a lot of pain and suffering because of their ignorance about doses, uses, withdrawl etc. But if your diagnosis is CFS I can see where it would be hard to get in to see a pdoc. Maybe there is another drug that would help that isn't an AD?
Posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 21:42:35
In reply to Re: Allison * AD's and mood » willow, posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 21:24:39
Or maybe it would be better to talk with a pharmacist first. I don't think that Remeron is available in Canada, though.
Posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:47:17
In reply to Re: Allison * AD's and mood » willow, posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 21:24:39
"It's just that regular family doctors aren't as knowledgeable about ADs, and from what I have seen have caused a lot of people on this board a lot of pain and suffering because of their ignorance about doses, uses, withdrawl etc."
Tell me about it! I told them that the older Ads made me aggresive and they figured it was all in my head. That's why I like this board, you get real peoples opinions.
Regarding the CFS in quite a few medical circles it considered a psychological problem, somitisation. Like when you get nervous you get butterflies in your stomach. I don't know how all the symptoms relate, but it kinda makes sense since I scored pretty low on the anxiety scales. (Thus I must be internalizing it?)
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