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Posted by Steph on May 18, 2000, at 8:30:34
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by Rodger on December 29, 1998, at 9:59:12
> I've been taking Celexa since it was first released. I am unable to tolerate any of the other antidepressants at a theraputic level for a variety of unwanted side effects. I have read that 75% of people treated in Europe are on 20 mg daily. I take 20 mg at bedtime and I have not noticed any side effects. In the past, I used sex as a stress reducer for my depression. I felt like I had to have it. With Celexa I don't feel that way. I can go for days without it and not start a major argument by making it a priority. I have sex about 4x a week and I experience NO side effects. I am on a drug cocktail...I don't want to take up a whole page here, but if anyone would like to ask me any further questions, please feel free to email. I am a very open person and I don't think anything you would ask me would offend me
HiIs anyone taking celexa for PMS? I realize I have probably been self medicating (with pot--very little and alcohol--about 2-3 glasses wine every night) and maybe mildly depressed but when that time of the month comes around I just turn mean and don't like myself very much. It was one thing when I was single. Another thing to subject my husband. But now I have two small children and I just don't want to subject them to it anymore. Mommy just cant disappear for a few days until she is nice enough to be around. So is anyone else on Celexa for this? I am on 1/2 a 20mg pill and have been for a few days. My husband is skeptical about this . Wants to know why I don't try alterenative (natural). I have. I have noticed that I don't desire a drink with dinner and I have taken this as a good sign. I also enjoy that it has decreased my appetite. Antoher good thing. I am going to wait another week before I up the dosage to 20mg. as the doctor suggested. Thanks in adavance for any coments or suggestions
Steph
Posted by vickie on May 26, 2000, at 15:11:43
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by Patty on December 30, 1998, at 14:46:00
I have never used any meds prior to Celexa. Have depression and PTSD and I no longer panic and totally obsess. I began taking Celexa 4/17/00 in conjunction with a sleep med. at night. I do experience very low energy but not the exhausted defeated depression drain I felt prior to taking Celexa. I lost the majority of my sexual desire due to PTSD. I believe sexual desire is augmented by dreams and fantasy and if you are not sleeping well or obsessing over fears to the point of having no room for the polite day dreaming that feeds sexual interest it's hard to
be turned on or excited.DOSAGE 20mg
Posted by Noa on May 26, 2000, at 16:04:37
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by vickie on May 26, 2000, at 15:11:43
>I do experience very low energy but not the exhausted defeated depression drain I felt prior
To me, when this happens, it is like being able to come up to the surface to take a breath.Be good to yourself now, because although this state is so much better than the defeated state, it is still no walk in the park.
Posted by Noa on May 26, 2000, at 16:09:19
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by Noa on May 26, 2000, at 16:04:37
I know I sometimes sound like a broken record, but I gotta ask, cuz I believe this should always be screened out:
Have you had your thyroid checked? If so, did your doctor give you your actual lab numbers or just tell you they were "normal"?
Posted by SLS on May 28, 2000, at 10:05:21
In reply to Re: celexa/thyroid, posted by Noa on May 26, 2000, at 16:09:19
> I know I sometimes sound like a broken record, but I gotta ask, cuz I believe this should always be screened out:
>
> Have you had your thyroid checked? If so, did your doctor give you your actual lab numbers or just tell you they were "normal"?
What thyroid preparation are you taking, and how much? I know someone for whom supratherapeutic thyroid treatment may be helpul.What are your thoughts regarding the place for T4 in this context and the value of knowing the T3/T4 ratio?
If one is partially responsive to T3, does this give an indication as to which other drugs they may be responsive to?
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Anne on May 28, 2000, at 13:39:53
In reply to Celexa, Effexor and Depakote, posted by carol on February 20, 1999, at 22:53:29
Also dealing with bipolar-2, i have tried various antidepressants with depakote. effexor has caused major loss of appetite at 225 mg. This is along with the 1000mg of depakote. I have recently cut back to 75 mg of effexor to see if my appetite comes back. I have been experiencing horrible nightmares on occasion; strange dreams are experienced nightly. Recently, my liver functioning has fluxuated so my doctors and I will have to pay special attention to my liver and depakote levels. Does anyone ever experience very cracked lips from this? This is definitely NOT herpes.
Posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 11:41:00
In reply to Re: celexa/thyroid T3/T4 ?, posted by SLS on May 28, 2000, at 10:05:21
Scott, I don't know the specifics for T3/4 ratios. However, I do know that family docs often overlook the need for T3, when T4 levels are normal and TSH is within normal limits. Pdocs like to use T3 to augment ADs and other meds, because it heightens the effectivness of those meds.
I think a good eval of thyroid functioning would include TSH, Total T4, Total T3 at the very least, but there are other tests that are helpful, too. Abby might know them better.
>
Posted by Abby on May 31, 2000, at 12:21:44
In reply to Re: celexa/thyroid T3/T4 ?, posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 11:41:00
> Scott, I don't know the specifics for T3/4 ratios. However, I do know that family docs often overlook the need for T3, when T4 levels are normal and TSH is within normal limits. Pdocs like to use T3 to augment ADs and other meds, because it heightens the effectivness of those meds.
>
> I think a good eval of thyroid functioning would include TSH, Total T4, Total T3 at the very least, but there are other tests that are helpful, too. Abby might know them better.
> >I'm getting this from Mary Shomon's book (also check out her web site http://www.thyroid-info.com) --which is okay,but I think I'm going to like Ridha Arem's better. Well, there's the RT3 which is reverse T3 test. RT3 is an inactive form of T3 made when the body is under stress. Some people theorize that the body can get stuck in this mode and then have inadequate levels of T3. I think maybe sopme doctors look atthe ratio of T3 to RT3, but I'd have to look, because I'm really not sure.
Also there's the TRH test---Thyrotropin releasing hormone. Basically this is the hormone which stimulates the production of thyrotropin also known as thyroid stimulating hormone or TSH. Really TRH should be called HSTSH or something.
TRH tests are harder to come by, because doctors don't believe the labs do them. Basically, blood is drawn for a TSH test. Then TRH is injected and 30 minutes later a new blood sample is taken. This makes the TSH go up, and teh amount by which it goes up means something, but I don't really understand it. If it rises over 30 it's supposed to be bad, but I don't know why, because it would seem that thatjust means that the pituitary is sensitive and working well. I guess it means that, though, the TSH is low,something is wrong with the production of TRH, but that given adequate TRH, the TSH rises, since thyroid production is impaired, but I'm just running my mouth speculating.
Abby
P.S. Some people think that your thyroid levels can be fine, but that if you have thyroid antibodies, it is a sign of impending thyroid failure in the manner of the auto-immune disease Hashimoto's, which I guess is the most common cause of hypothyroidism.
P.S.2 Also Free T3 and Free T$. Don't know the value of these and why total values are also needed.
Posted by cassandra on May 31, 2000, at 12:58:16
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by Sue on February 23, 1999, at 18:21:43
I've been on Celexa for a month and a half now. I had been on Paxil for a few years, but switched because I was frustrated that I had no sex drive. Initially my sex drive returned on celexa, but now it's gone again. Also, I have had a lot of gas recently, has anyone else had this incredibly awful problem from celexa?
Posted by Noa on May 31, 2000, at 14:54:55
In reply to Re: I'm the thyroid expert now?!, posted by Abby on May 31, 2000, at 12:21:44
Thanks, Abby. BTW, for help in interpreting thyroid lab tests, see this web page:
http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/howto/htthyroid-test.htm?
Posted by SLS on May 31, 2000, at 15:12:08
In reply to Re: I'm the thyroid expert now?!, posted by Abby on May 31, 2000, at 12:21:44
Dear Abby,
(That was so much fun to write)
I really appreciate your taking the time to explain what you have learned about thyroid function. I didn't know that there was such a thing as RT3. That the rate of conversion of T3 to RT3 is accelerated during stress is very interesting. It sounds like this system may get "stuck" in the same way the cortisol system may get "stuck". Both dysregulations might be the result of chronic stress and be contributory to the evolution of a sustained depression, but I'm just running my mouth speculating. :-)
My friend's sister has Hashimoto's Disease and has suffered chronic depression for most of her life. My friend, who also suffers from chronic depression, has a thyroid level that is in the lower part of the normal range. Both have been helped by antidepressants, although not completely. Wellbutrin, Effexor, and Parnate have been partially effective for both of them.
Is Hashimoto's Disease hereditary?
How is it treated?
Any other comments?
Don't worry, you are not being graded on your expertise. I'm sure anything you have to say will be helpful. I wish I were able to say "I don't know" as easily as you. It is a virtue.
> TRH tests are harder to come by, because doctors don't believe the labs do them. Basically, blood is drawn for a TSH test. Then TRH is injected and 30 minutes later a new blood sample is taken. This makes the TSH go up, and teh amount by which it goes up means something, but I don't really understand it. If it rises over 30 it's supposed to be bad, but I don't know why, because it would seem that that just means that the pituitary is sensitive and working well. I guess it means that, though, the TSH is low, something is wrong with the production of TRH, but that given adequate TRH, the TSH rises, since thyroid production is impaired, but I'm just running my mouth speculating.Keep running.
> Abby
>
> P.S. Some people think that your thyroid levels can be fine, but that if you have thyroid antibodies, it is a sign of impending thyroid failure in the manner of the auto-immune disease Hashimoto's, which I guess is the most common cause of hypothyroidism.This is great information. I think I'll tell my friend to be screened for these antibodies.
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Noa on May 31, 2000, at 15:26:55
In reply to Re: I'm the thyroid expert now?! - Thanks, posted by SLS on May 31, 2000, at 15:12:08
Scott, from what I understand, thyroid illness does run in families, although I have yet to come across any info that specifies how strong a hereditary link there is and whether the family tendency covers both hyper- and hypothyroid.
An interesting case is that of George and Barbara Bush, who both came down with Graves Disease around the same time, and who dog, Millie also had hyperthyroid symptoms at that time. Of course, this suggests some kind of environmental toxin, rather than a hereditary link!
Posted by connie ann on May 31, 2000, at 20:33:51
In reply to Re: celexa, good stuff, posted by heather on February 20, 1999, at 13:48:44
Has anyone noticed that they felt relief within 10 days.
Posted by Chris A. on June 1, 2000, at 0:45:00
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values, posted by Noa on May 31, 2000, at 14:54:55
Does anyone know if keeping the TSH level supressed can contribute to mania as any other antidepressant treatment can do? Sorry, I am too exhausted for long conversations and am not feeling too bright with my ongoing ECT treatments. Haven't forgotten you all or dropped off of the face of the earth. Hope you're all doing well or are least finding some hope.
Here's to health,
Chris A.
Posted by Noa on June 1, 2000, at 7:43:26
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values -Noa, Abby Scott » Noa, posted by Chris A. on June 1, 2000, at 0:45:00
Chris,
I don't know about it inducing mania perse, BUT, suppressing TSH can cause symptoms of hyperthyroidism, which can mimic SOME manic symptoms sometimes. Also, suppressing TSH with thyroid hormone can magnify the effects of ADs, which, as you know, can induce manic symptoms in some people.
Posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 9:37:10
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values -Noa, Abby Scott, posted by Noa on June 1, 2000, at 7:43:26
Hi Noa - I've just read & tried to understand all this thyroid info. I'm having trouble understanding it. When my psych (is that what I see being called pdoc?) suggested Celexa I forgot to mention the following in the health history that I gave him: About 3 years ago I went to an irridologist who said there was something happening with my thyroid & to have my doctor check it. The blood work showed no TSH being produced (no Thyroid Stimulating Hormone being produced by my pituitary). Further tests by a specialist showed that my thyroid was overactive - hyperthyroid & suggested irradiation therapy (basically killing my thyroid with radiation & taking thyroid medicine from then on). I decided 'no, not yet' & my own doctor monitored me with blood tests while I worked with a naturopathic doctor, using various herbs, etc. My TSH got back within normal. I'm feeling nervous after reading all this stuff about T3/T4 etc. I forgot about having had a thyroid problem & am now wondering if I should have had thyroid tests before beginning Celexa.
Might thyroid problems have been contributing to my anxiety/worrying/weepiness/obsessiveness?
Does hyperthyroid contribute to depression, do you know?
Would Celexa affect thyroid levels?
Any info would be very welcome. Thanks
Kath
Posted by SLS on June 2, 2000, at 10:03:30
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 9:37:10
> Hi Noa - I've just read & tried to understand all this thyroid info. I'm having trouble understanding it. When my psych (is that what I see being called pdoc?) suggested Celexa I forgot to mention the following in the health history that I gave him: About 3 years ago I went to an irridologist who said there was something happening with my thyroid & to have my doctor check it. The blood work showed no TSH being produced (no Thyroid Stimulating Hormone being produced by my pituitary). Further tests by a specialist showed that my thyroid was overactive - hyperthyroid & suggested irradiation therapy (basically killing my thyroid with radiation & taking thyroid medicine from then on). I decided 'no, not yet' & my own doctor monitored me with blood tests while I worked with a naturopathic doctor, using various herbs, etc. My TSH got back within normal. I'm feeling nervous after reading all this stuff about T3/T4 etc. I forgot about having had a thyroid problem & am now wondering if I should have had thyroid tests before beginning Celexa.
>
> Might thyroid problems have been contributing to my anxiety/worrying/weepiness/obsessiveness?
>
> Does hyperthyroid contribute to depression, do you know?
>
> Would Celexa affect thyroid levels?
> Any info would be very welcome. Thanks
> Kath
I Kath.You asked the right questions. I don't think I'm qualified to answer them, but I know that other people are.
I have some questions for you.
What was the specific diagnoses of your thyroid problem?
What herbs have you been taking?
Have you lost any hair?
Thanks for answering any of my questions should you feel like it. I'll still love you if you don't. :-)You'll get some answers here, don't worry. However, I wouldn't lose faith in all doctors.
- Scott
Posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 10:45:02
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by SLS on June 2, 2000, at 10:03:30
> > Hi Noa - I've just read & tried to understand all this thyroid info. I'm having trouble understanding it. When my psych (is that what I see being called pdoc?) suggested Celexa I forgot to mention the following in the health history that I gave him: About 3 years ago I went to an irridologist who said there was something happening with my thyroid & to have my doctor check it. The blood work showed no TSH being produced (no Thyroid Stimulating Hormone being produced by my pituitary). Further tests by a specialist showed that my thyroid was overactive - hyperthyroid & suggested irradiation therapy (basically killing my thyroid with radiation & taking thyroid medicine from then on). I decided 'no, not yet' & my own doctor monitored me with blood tests while I worked with a naturopathic doctor, using various herbs, etc. My TSH got back within normal. I'm feeling nervous after reading all this stuff about T3/T4 etc. I forgot about having had a thyroid problem & am now wondering if I should have had thyroid tests before beginning Celexa.
> >
> > Might thyroid problems have been contributing to my anxiety/worrying/weepiness/obsessiveness?
> >
> > Does hyperthyroid contribute to depression, do you know?
> >
> > Would Celexa affect thyroid levels?
> > Any info would be very welcome. Thanks
> > Kath
>
>
> I Kath.
>
> You asked the right questions. I don't think I'm qualified to answer them, but I know that other people are.
>
> I have some questions for you.
>
> What was the specific diagnoses of your thyroid problem?
>
> What herbs have you been taking?
>
> Have you lost any hair?
>
>
> Thanks for answering any of my questions should you feel like it. I'll still love you if you don't. :-)
>
> You'll get some answers here, don't worry. However, I wouldn't lose faith in all doctors.
>
>
> - Scott
.........
Hi Scott - No, I haven't lost faith in doctors. Especially my own family doctor, who tells me when & for how long he feels o.k. with me using alternative methods & whose judgement I trust.It was about 2 years ago that I had blood work done. That TSH test was normal as was the one 6 months before that, so at that time I stopped the herbs. Makes me realize that I should have bloodwork done anyway, just to make sure everything is ok.
You know, I'm not even sure about the diagnosis. I think I'll get a copy of my med records. I know my thyroid was hyperactive. I'm pretty sure the diagnosis was Graves Disease, which is an auto-immune disease, I think. It surprised me that it could improve, but, on remembering, I contacted a friend in Montreal, who is a doctor, & he suggested not getting radiation, but working on improving my immune system.
Re the herbs, I was working on this for months, and months, and it was a few years ago. I do remember taking dandelion and taking Vitamin A. I also began therapy at that time including "inner child" work & a lot of "me speaking out & speaking my own truth" type of work started happening in all areas of my life. (I guess the thought being that the thyroid is in the throat area & the throat is about speaking.) I'm being pretty open & VULNERABLE here, could be alot of people might find this pretty weird. I hope I don't get attacked.
I didn't lose hair in any unusual amounts.
I don't mind my questions if you don't mind my answers !! :-)
Thanks for caring.
Kath
Posted by Noa on June 2, 2000, at 13:11:19
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 10:45:02
Thyroid problems are sensitive to stress, so it is possible for them to flair up when you are under more stress. This is especially true for people whose thyroid problems are a result of an autoimmune disorder, like Grave's Disease.
Celexa probably won't affect thyroid levels, other than to relieve some of the stress of depression, which could, theoretically be contributing to thyroid imbalance.
I think hyperthyroid can cause symptoms of anxiety, insomnia, obsessions, panic, etc. I do not know about depression, although I know that when I get very anxious, depression is never far behind to sort of shut off the anxiety valve.
Try reading Dr. Arem's book, The Thyroid Solution. It might give you the info you need on what tests you should possibly get, etc., and symptoms of hyperthyroid.
I agree that going to radioactive iodine treatment is not the first course of action. There are drugs that suppress the thyroid that are used effectively for hyperthyroid. My mother took something of this kind for a couple of years when she had a major flair up of hyperthyroid, and it worked for her.
(After radioactive treatment, there is a good chance of becoming hypothyroid and needing ongoing thyroid hormone replacement---this isn't such a terrible thing, but obviously other, less invasive steps should be tried first, IMHO).
Another good book for basic thyroid info is Sara Rosenthal's The Thyroid Sourcebook.
Posted by Noa on June 2, 2000, at 13:59:10
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 10:45:02
Kath, I found this checklist on Mary Shomon's website. Hope it is helpful. It does list depression as a symptom of hyperthyroid.
http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/blhyperthyroid-checklist.htm?terms=hyperthyroid
Posted by SLS on June 2, 2000, at 15:16:19
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 10:45:02
> Re the herbs, I was working on this for months, and months, and it was a few years ago. I do remember taking dandelion and taking Vitamin A. I also began therapy at that time including "inner child" work & a lot of "me speaking out & speaking my own truth" type of work started happening in all areas of my life. (I guess the thought being that the thyroid is in the throat area & the throat is about speaking.) I'm being pretty open & VULNERABLE here, could be alot of people might find this pretty weird. I hope I don't get attacked.
>
> I didn't lose hair in any unusual amounts.
>
> I don't mind my questions if you don't mind my answers !! :-)
>
> Thanks for caring.
>
> Kath
Hi Kath.I knew that Noa would come to the rescue. She has become pretty sharp with thyroid stuff, and has chosen a good website for you to look at. I agree with everything she said. I think she has become a sort of fireman, putting out thyroid fires up and down the board. I have a hard time understanding how she manages to do all of this. Good people.
Noa took the words right out of my mouth regarding stress. It is possible that your psychotherapy helped quite a bit to reduce chronic emotional stress, and thereby break some sort of thyroid-stress-depression-stress-thyroid cycle. (Noa taught me this). I would consider reducing stress as your second target after addressing the thyroid situation directly.
I appreciate your apprehension about disclosing such personal information. It is healthy and wise to be cautious. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would attack you for "revealing" the method of therapy you chose. Did it work?
I find Psycho-Babble to be an incredibly valuable source of information and support. There are far more good people here than bad. Well, let me restate that. There are far more good people who do good things than there are good people who do bad things.
Good luck. I'm very glad that you received the reply I hoped you would.
See ya'
- Scott
Posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 16:33:52
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To Noa, posted by SLS on June 2, 2000, at 15:16:19
> > Re the herbs, I was working on this for months, and months, and it was a few years ago. I do remember taking dandelion and taking Vitamin A. I also began therapy at that time including "inner child" work & a lot of "me speaking out & speaking my own truth" type of work started happening in all areas of my life. (I guess the thought being that the thyroid is in the throat area & the throat is about speaking.) I'm being pretty open & VULNERABLE here, could be alot of people might find this pretty weird. I hope I don't get attacked.
> >
> > I didn't lose hair in any unusual amounts.
> >
> > I don't mind my questions if you don't mind my answers !! :-)
> >
> > Thanks for caring.
> >
> > Kath
>
>
> Hi Kath.
>
> I knew that Noa would come to the rescue. She has become pretty sharp with thyroid stuff, and has chosen a good website for you to look at. I agree with everything she said. I think she has become a sort of fireman, putting out thyroid fires up and down the board. I have a hard time understanding how she manages to do all of this. Good people.
>
> Noa took the words right out of my mouth regarding stress. It is possible that your psychotherapy helped quite a bit to reduce chronic emotional stress, and thereby break some sort of thyroid-stress-depression-stress-thyroid cycle. (Noa taught me this). I would consider reducing stress as your second target after addressing the thyroid situation directly.
>
> I appreciate your apprehension about disclosing such personal information. It is healthy and wise to be cautious. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would attack you for "revealing" the method of therapy you chose. Did it work?
>
> I find Psycho-Babble to be an incredibly valuable source of information and support. There are far more good people here than bad. Well, let me restate that. There are far more good people who do good things than there are good people who do bad things.
>
> Good luck. I'm very glad that you received the reply I hoped you would.
>
> See ya'
>
>
> - ScottThanks Noa, for all your info.
Hi Scott - Yes, the therapy did help me tremendously. I am now able to speak 'way more openly about my feelings or things that are bothering me, to my husband, my kids, & anyone, really.
Thanks for the input about reducing stress as a target. It really is a target - a little difficult right now for me. I've given more details under the thread "New at Celexa at Psycho-Babble...causes" I'm feeling hopeful though. I'm feeling very few side effects right now, and am hoping to increase the dosage soon as a higher dose helps me feel less anxious.
Thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much and feel very good about having found this site!
I hope you have a good weekend.
Kath
Posted by Jennifer on June 3, 2000, at 5:03:17
In reply to Re: Thyroid Values - To SLS Noa - Thanks, posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 16:33:52
Kath, I haven't read this entire thread, so sorry if this repeats anything. The pituitary gland is the "master gland" of the body and it secrets tons of different hormones that effect the other hormone glands in the body. One of it's main effects is stimulating cortisol secretion from your adrenal glands on your kidneys. Over secretion due to stress can cause panic attacks, depression, mental changes, sleep difficulties, etc. Lowering your stress does put everything back in check, as long as there is no underlying health problem such as a tumor on the pituitary or adrenal glands. This could be why you felt better. HOWEVER, Graves Disease wrecks havoc on your body. It effects every single system from metabolism to vision etc. Every heard of the song "She's got Betty Davis Eyes"? Those really funky, protruding eyes? Former First Lady Barbara Bush too...both had Graves Disease. An excellent endocrinologist can give you at least 2-3 choices on how to bring your thyroid into control. Irridation is usually the last option, but sometimes it is necessary. Herbs and things are great, but in five years you don't want to find out you've had irreversable changes to your body from the effect of high thyroid. Check around for a GOOD doctor. It never hurts to go to your nearest hospital for lunch one day, and ask a couple nurses if they know him, and what they think. Awesome way to find out the real deal. Good luck! Jennifer
> > > Re the herbs, I was working on this for months, and months, and it was a few years ago. I do remember taking dandelion and taking Vitamin A. I also began therapy at that time including "inner child" work & a lot of "me speaking out & speaking my own truth" type of work started happening in all areas of my life. (I guess the thought being that the thyroid is in the throat area & the throat is about speaking.) I'm being pretty open & VULNERABLE here, could be alot of people might find this pretty weird. I hope I don't get attacked.
> > >
> > > I didn't lose hair in any unusual amounts.
> > >
> > > I don't mind my questions if you don't mind my answers !! :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for caring.
> > >
> > > Kath
> >
> >
> > Hi Kath.
> >
> > I knew that Noa would come to the rescue. She has become pretty sharp with thyroid stuff, and has chosen a good website for you to look at. I agree with everything she said. I think she has become a sort of fireman, putting out thyroid fires up and down the board. I have a hard time understanding how she manages to do all of this. Good people.
> >
> > Noa took the words right out of my mouth regarding stress. It is possible that your psychotherapy helped quite a bit to reduce chronic emotional stress, and thereby break some sort of thyroid-stress-depression-stress-thyroid cycle. (Noa taught me this). I would consider reducing stress as your second target after addressing the thyroid situation directly.
> >
> > I appreciate your apprehension about disclosing such personal information. It is healthy and wise to be cautious. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would attack you for "revealing" the method of therapy you chose. Did it work?
> >
> > I find Psycho-Babble to be an incredibly valuable source of information and support. There are far more good people here than bad. Well, let me restate that. There are far more good people who do good things than there are good people who do bad things.
> >
> > Good luck. I'm very glad that you received the reply I hoped you would.
> >
> > See ya'
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Thanks Noa, for all your info.
>
> Hi Scott - Yes, the therapy did help me tremendously. I am now able to speak 'way more openly about my feelings or things that are bothering me, to my husband, my kids, & anyone, really.
>
> Thanks for the input about reducing stress as a target. It really is a target - a little difficult right now for me. I've given more details under the thread "New at Celexa at Psycho-Babble...causes" I'm feeling hopeful though. I'm feeling very few side effects right now, and am hoping to increase the dosage soon as a higher dose helps me feel less anxious.
>
> Thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much and feel very good about having found this site!
>
> I hope you have a good weekend.
>
> Kath
Posted by Noa on June 3, 2000, at 13:21:07
In reply to Re: Hyperthyroid from Jennifer 2 Kath, posted by Jennifer on June 3, 2000, at 5:03:17
>Check around for a GOOD doctor.
FYI, if you are looking for a good endo, you might want to check out this web page, at Mary Shomon's site. It is a bulletin board where people recommend endocrinologists who treat thyroid problems:http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/bldoc1.htm
It's how I found my endo, and he is great.
Posted by Kath on June 3, 2000, at 14:58:58
In reply to Re: Hyperthyroid from Jennifer 2 Kath, posted by Noa on June 3, 2000, at 13:21:07
Hi Jennifer & Noa - thx for the good information. Noa, I printed the checklist you pointed me to & am going to fill it out & take it to the doctor. Both of your ideas for getting good doctors sound good.
Take care. Kath
>Check around for a GOOD doctor.
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> FYI, if you are looking for a good endo, you might want to check out this web page, at Mary Shomon's site. It is a bulletin board where people recommend endocrinologists who treat thyroid problems:
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> http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/bldoc1.htm
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> It's how I found my endo, and he is great.
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