Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 26703

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Survector, Stablon

Posted by William on March 11, 2000, at 15:18:06

I have been searching and searching for a source
for Stablon(tianeptine)and Survector(amineptine).
They might have been discontinued. It sounds like
they have been an effective AD for many people
with atypical depression. I would sure like to
give them a try. Thanks.

 

Re: Survector, Stablon

Posted by Karen B on March 11, 2000, at 23:32:18

In reply to Survector, Stablon, posted by William on March 11, 2000, at 15:18:06

Dear William,

I have tried both, with much greater success on the Survector. The trouble is, it was recently discontinued by the manufacturer. After living in the Philippines several years and making friends on different islands, I am now in the process of e-mailing about, to buy up as much leftover stock as I can. Do you get the idea that this stuff actually works? Used in conjunction with sulpiride (Dogmatil), a neuroleptic, it was energizing in a non-artificial way and lifted my mind out of the miry pit as well. This combo worked better for me than anything I have ever tried. Amineptine, which I tried to use with the Dogmatil, did not do it for me. I felt sleepy and listless, almost as badly as I have on the SSRIs.

Andrew B has written about a med called amisulpride, also not available in the US but he gets it on a regular basis. It also works on the dopamine receptors in what sounds like a similar way to the combo of which I speak. Check out his posts from the last couple days on "fatigue," written to me and Janet, then follow that thread for some great info. He is much more eloquent and knowledgeable than I on this D1-D2 receptor issue. Wish I knew more but I'm learning. One thing is for sure. Seratonin is NOT my problem and something about Dopamine most decidedly IS.

Best to you...

Karen B

 

Re: Survector, Stablon

Posted by JohnL on March 12, 2000, at 3:51:07

In reply to Survector, Stablon, posted by William on March 11, 2000, at 15:18:06

As has been mentioned, Survector has been discontinued. That's too bad. I tried it once for about 2 weeks. I was starting to really like it. But when I tried to get a refill, it was discontinued. Damn.

I don't know about Tianeptine. I think I've seen it available at some mailorder pharmacy in Thailand. But delivery can take a long time. At least a month.

Amisulpride might be a real good substitue for Amineptine. It's another dopamine specific drug with very mild side effects. It's alerting, not sedating. It stimulates dopamine at low doses. There's a mailorder pharmacy in Switzerland that supplies it (name Victoria Apotheke). www.pharmaworld.com But they do require a mailed authentic prescription.

I did a search on german pharmacies and received replies from three that could mailorder Amisulpride with a faxed prescription. They didn't seem to care if the prescription was authentic or not...or else they would have required a mailed prescription.

In the USA a drug that works very similar to Amisulpride is Trifluoperizine (Stelazine). It is an antipsychotic known for being more alerting rather than sedating. It works a lot like Amisulpride and is supposed to be a good substitute, according to international psychiatrist Hagop Akiskal. Regardless, I really wish they wouldn't have discontinued Survector! Darn. I really haven't heard many good reports on Tianeptine. Some comparitive studies indicated it wasn't quite as good as comparitor drugs.


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