Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 19467

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CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by SIGOLENE from France on January 23, 2000, at 13:59:30

I suffer from chronic fatigue since I was young.
Everything is working very well in my body. But I'm tired all the time, even if I sleep well.
I live in Europe, and doctors here keep giving me some stupid vitamins, it has no effect. I'm also a depressed person but it has nothing to do with fatigue by me.
Does someone know a good "real" treatment for chronic fatigue ? If the doctors here don't want to prescribe it to me, is there a pharmacy somewhere in the world where I could order it without doctor prescription ?

Thanks you for help.
Sigolene

 

Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by Danny on January 23, 2000, at 19:24:11

In reply to CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by SIGOLENE from France on January 23, 2000, at 13:59:30

Hi Sigolene

I suffered from Chronic Fatigue for a number of years, went to various doctors and didn't get any help. There is a group called CFIDS in the US that offers information about treatments. I also continue to suffer from depression and have found antidepressants helpful for psychiatric problems. Unfortunately, Chronic Fatigue is still poorly understood and there are no specific drugs that I'm aware of right now. People often tell me that things are better for chronic fatigue in Europe - I guess this isn;t necessarily the case. I'm sorry I can't offer you more good news. bonne chance

> I suffer from chronic fatigue since I was young.
> Everything is working very well in my body. But I'm tired all the time, even if I sleep well.
> I live in Europe, and doctors here keep giving me some stupid vitamins, it has no effect. I'm also a depressed person but it has nothing to do with fatigue by me.
> Does someone know a good "real" treatment for chronic fatigue ? If the doctors here don't want to prescribe it to me, is there a pharmacy somewhere in the world where I could order it without doctor prescription ?
>
> Thanks you for help.
> Sigolene

 

Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by Kaarina on January 26, 2000, at 23:24:31

In reply to Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by Danny on January 23, 2000, at 19:24:11

I've found a psychologist has helped me. I too would say that I've had symptoms for a long time, but the last three years had been awful. I've been seeing a psychologist for about 18 months, which brought slow improvement at first and now the past two months I would say I'm cured. And it feels great!

 

Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by SIGOLENE on January 28, 2000, at 4:40:51

In reply to Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by Kaarina on January 26, 2000, at 23:24:31

> I've found a psychologist has helped me. I too would say that I've had symptoms for a long time, but the last three years had been awful. I've been seeing a psychologist for about 18 months, which brought slow improvement at first and now the past two months I would say I'm cured. And it feels great!

Thank you for your answer but there's something that I don't understand. You say that a psychologist hedped you but how ? Is it a cognitive behavioural therapy, psychoanalytic therapy, did you find a reason to your chronic fatigue ? I'm really interested to know if I 'd better treat me with meds or by "talking".

 

Re: cognitive vs psychoanalytical

Posted by Kaarina on January 28, 2000, at 13:19:07

In reply to Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by SIGOLENE on January 28, 2000, at 4:40:51

> Thank you for your answer but there's something that I don't understand. You say that a psychologist hedped you but how ? Is it a cognitive behavioural therapy, psychoanalytic therapy, did you find a reason to your chronic fatigue ? I'm really interested to know if I 'd better treat me with meds or by "talking".

Sigolene, I believe what I'm recieving is psychanalytical, this is what the receipts say. You sound like you know the difference between the two. I think cognitive is to help a person with coping mechanisms. Now this is just my personal viewpoint, if a person finds themselves unable to cope or overwhelmed by life's bumps than the cogitive therapy would be an asset. Did I find a reason for the CFS? Honestly, I can still only speculate on what brought it on. In my case I think it was a number of things just happened over the years. In the spring of '98, I was unable to work anymore and even by the fall it seemed like I was getting worse instead of better despite not working out of the home. That's I started seeing a psychologist. My family doctor didn't feel this would help, (I've changed doctor's since then). Over the past year and a half I started making slow progress at first to the point now where I believe I'm back to "normal". If you want more in depth details I'll post my email address if you like. I don't know if I answered your question?

 

Re: cognitive vs psychoanalytical

Posted by Sigolene on January 29, 2000, at 10:13:47

In reply to Re: cognitive vs psychoanalytical, posted by Kaarina on January 28, 2000, at 13:19:07

> > Thank you for your answer but there's something that I don't understand. You say that a psychologist hedped you but how ? Is it a cognitive behavioural therapy, psychoanalytic therapy, did you find a reason to your chronic fatigue ? I'm really interested to know if I 'd better treat me with meds or by "talking".
>
> Sigolene, I believe what I'm recieving is psychanalytical, this is what the receipts say. You sound like you know the difference between the two. I think cognitive is to help a person with coping mechanisms. Now this is just my personal viewpoint, if a person finds themselves unable to cope or overwhelmed by life's bumps than the cogitive therapy would be an asset. Did I find a reason for the CFS? Honestly, I can still only speculate on what brought it on. In my case I think it was a number of things just happened over the years. In the spring of '98, I was unable to work anymore and even by the fall it seemed like I was getting worse instead of better despite not working out of the home. That's I started seeing a psychologist. My family doctor didn't feel this would help, (I've changed doctor's since then). Over the past year and a half I started making slow progress at first to the point now where I believe I'm back to "normal". If you want more in depth details I'll post my email address if you like. I don't know if I answered your question?

yes, you did. I'm going to find a good psychologist, because mine is not helping me actually. thanks.
Sigolene

 

Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by cooper on January 28, 2003, at 16:59:21

In reply to Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by SIGOLENE on January 28, 2000, at 4:40:51

I have some helpful news - I have had chronic fatigue like symptoms for about 5 months now and I recently saw an immunologist - who is one of the best in Australia - and he prescribed an anti-depressant called Aurorix (maybe called Manerix overseas) - which has an active ingredient called moclobemide - I noticed a huge increase in energy levels within 2 weeks of taking it - you can use it even if you arent depressed - howver as we all now chronic fatigue leaves you feeling in a depressed state although not in the ordinary meaning of depressed. I just realised that you arent supposed to take it with certian foods like broad beans and I only just felt a little worse over the last few days as a result of having such foods . You can look on the following website to see what foods - www.inhousepharmacy.co.uk/anti-depressants/manerix.html.

Also I had a few questions - do other people with this problem feel like they are focused on their breathing although they know all is OK? Also do you have tightness in your neck muscles at the side and the back and what can you do to help this?

 

Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE

Posted by Lia Mason on January 28, 2003, at 22:09:22

In reply to Re: CHRONIC FATIGUE, posted by cooper on January 28, 2003, at 16:59:21

I had chronic fatigue for almost 3 years and no antidepressant helped. I tried many including moclobemide. Finally I was hospitalized for depression, took prozac, and slowly got better. I must point out, though, that I took prozac during the first year I was ill and it did nothing. I had high titers for a virus called Epstein Barr. This is controversial because many, many people who are perfectly well will test positive for this. I think I got the virus and my body fought it and then had trouble getting the message to stop the fight. This was almost 10 years ago. I'm fine now. At the time, the expert in the US was a doctor named Paul Cheney. You might search the web and see if he's published anything recently. You have my sincere sympathy. Chronic Fatigue was a nightmare. But I got out so there is certainly hope. I'm still treated for depression as I was before I got sick, but I know the difference. I remember explaining at the time that for me depression is "I can't think of anything that would make me happy" and chronic fatigue was "there are all these things that would make me happy but I don't have the strength to do them."

Lia


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