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Posted by johnnyj on July 19, 2006, at 16:06:33
In reply to Re: Not good., posted by musky on July 18, 2006, at 22:43:34
Well, no good news.
I took a small dose of lunesta last night and slept for maybe, 5 hours. I just cannot sleep. I am so tired and my thinking is being affected. I am at my wits end. I guess my body is telling me I need an AD or remeron.
I simply cannot be this useless and nonfunctional. All I want to do is rest and then I can't get refreshed trying that. I have no motivation, and moving takes colossal energy.
My stomcah is in knots and my appetite is terrible. I have shoulder and back tension that is very weird. The strange thing is I don't feel like I am panicky, just down from lack of sleep. I simply toss and turn and get frustrated all night. Don't they say we have a lot of receptors in our gut for seratonin, etc.? I guess my receptors are toast and are not functioning again after remeron. Maybe I just have to face the fact that my body must have something to function. I don't want to feel or think that but what do I do? Eating makes my mood dip which is strange.
I can't believe that 3.75 mg was doing anything for me? Is it possible that this is WD? or is my body refusing to repair itself? I wonder what would happen if I took a 3.75 dose? I won't yet but would all of these symptoms go away? Would that mean it is WD?
I am going to work through this until next Monday when I see my doc and if I can't get some relief by then measures have to be taken as I cannot live like this. I don't know what I did to deserve this but I guess I am a freak. I feel sorry for my wife as she doesn't deserve such a weak husband. Damn, this sucks.
Posted by johnnyj on July 19, 2006, at 16:07:41
In reply to Re: Not good., posted by musky on July 18, 2006, at 22:43:34
fare better than me. Good luck and I will pray for all of you tonight.
Posted by musky on July 20, 2006, at 0:41:44
In reply to Re: Not good., posted by johnnyj on July 19, 2006, at 16:06:33
>johnny:
Thats the evil of the remeron... it makes you have a crisis so that you will take it...DONT give up... it WILL GET BETTER... like i said before dont stress about the sleep... just relax... up to you if you want to take something for sleep/..just remember then you will have to get off that too...
tension in the back and neck im getting too, but I am working through it... again have you tried acupuncture??? and your doc isnt the only source out there to tell you what to do ... he/she will just say hey.. take the drug.. after all you have faught to get this far, then go back on it???/ to me that isnt the way to go.. but its your body.. you were feeling so much better... remember w/d isnt linear,, its many ups and downs..Quit the negative self talk and calling yourself a freak.. its the nerves and tiredness talking.. dont psyche yourself out ... keep positive.. If you truly want to be drug free you gottta fight man!!!
I will pray for you gyMusky
Well, no good news.
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> I took a small dose of lunesta last night and slept for maybe, 5 hours. I just cannot sleep. I am so tired and my thinking is being affected. I am at my wits end. I guess my body is telling me I need an AD or remeron.
>
> I simply cannot be this useless and nonfunctional. All I want to do is rest and then I can't get refreshed trying that. I have no motivation, and moving takes colossal energy.
>
> My stomcah is in knots and my appetite is terrible. I have shoulder and back tension that is very weird. The strange thing is I don't feel like I am panicky, just down from lack of sleep. I simply toss and turn and get frustrated all night. Don't they say we have a lot of receptors in our gut for seratonin, etc.? I guess my receptors are toast and are not functioning again after remeron. Maybe I just have to face the fact that my body must have something to function. I don't want to feel or think that but what do I do? Eating makes my mood dip which is strange.
>
> I can't believe that 3.75 mg was doing anything for me? Is it possible that this is WD? or is my body refusing to repair itself? I wonder what would happen if I took a 3.75 dose? I won't yet but would all of these symptoms go away? Would that mean it is WD?
>
> I am going to work through this until next Monday when I see my doc and if I can't get some relief by then measures have to be taken as I cannot live like this. I don't know what I did to deserve this but I guess I am a freak. I feel sorry for my wife as she doesn't deserve such a weak husband. Damn, this sucks.
Posted by musky on July 20, 2006, at 0:51:22
In reply to I pray that you all, posted by johnnyj on July 19, 2006, at 16:07:41
>Hang in there johnny:
It will get better..
Me today not as much out of mind feeling... just tonight i got sudden weakness, sweating. shaky.. then i had supper and just tried to relax and then did some house cleaning , sat outside tonight and it passed and i felt better.. I just tell myself its the body readjusting... I was on Remeron for 3yrs,, how could i expect it to be better in just 2months...
Everyone give it time ... LOTS of time... take one day or one HOUR at a time if you must... have faith...
Its very hard i know but you gotta keep running the race cause the finish line will appear..other people kick drugs far worse and they make it.....
I will warn as many people as i can about the evils of this Remeron and a/d.... all they do is screw people up more than help.. if they think they are being helped then they are caught in the fantasy along with the docs who prescribe..
maybe they help 0.00001% of the pop. but then who knows if they would have recovered anyways in time???!!!!
I dont know... all Im saying is you'll feel better in time... and just think of no more side effects!!!
I would rather put up with anxiety and handle it on my own than to ever ever take another remeron again...
I think the way to win here is get real hard on yourself and literally kick your own butt out of the anxiety and depression and whatever else it is..
Musky
fare better than me. Good luck and I will pray for all of you tonight.
Posted by johnnyj on July 23, 2006, at 17:09:03
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by musky on July 20, 2006, at 0:51:22
I think i am done guys. I cannot go on feeling like this. I am close to non-functional. I am Mr. Negative all of the time. I think the lunesta is contributing to depression as I know the lack of sleep is killing me. I have NO motivation to do anything. I am useless like this. NO sex drive at all.
The thing I noticed about remeron is it made me dwell on past stuff too much and made me fear I was going to freak out and hurt someone. I was not on the 3.75 dose long enought to see if the benefits were lasting, only one week after withdrawal died down. The thing is all I need is sleep ya know. I keep thinking I will get a good nights sleep and then things will work out but it is not happening.
I am thinking my only option may be seroquel. I have no idea.
Sorry guys, I hope you all do well and I will pray for you. I am just not normal even though I wish I was.
johnnyj
Posted by cashy72 on July 24, 2006, at 3:43:25
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » musky, posted by johnnyj on July 23, 2006, at 17:09:03
Hey Johnny, Sorry too hear your still having it tough mate... You have too break this cycle of negative thinking, try and get angry when your really low, THINK positive thoughts, when your down in the dumps, put on your favourite cd, and turn up the volume real loud... imagine yourself somewhere else... its tough i know, believe me.. another a/d is DEFINATELY not the answer... have you tried Valerian extract for sleeping??.... hang in there my friend, you may only be a day or two from turning that corner which at the moment feels like it's far away, keep going, be strong.................
HANG IN THERE JOHNNY..
CASHY72..
Posted by johnnyj on July 24, 2006, at 14:13:02
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by cashy72 on July 24, 2006, at 3:43:25
I have been on lunesta and today was tolerable. Went to pdoc and she said my symptoms are anxiety related and said I need to see my therapist every week and try and change my thinking. She said I should not dwell on my physical sympotoms and said she doesn't think it is still withdrawal. If that is the case things are not looking good. I don't feel too much anxiety but have a lot of body stuff and fatigue that is terrible. It is so easy to get negative when one is so tired. She said a body can recover because I asked if a body is permanantely screwed from meds. She didn't think so. I see a new doc on Wed. as my current one is changing jobs. I sit here with a light sweat. My body is so tired and I wonder how long I can last like this? I don't want to fall into a terrible depression because my mind needs somewhere to escape. I am afraid, but I don't want to give up.
Posted by jules354 on July 24, 2006, at 14:16:57
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » musky, posted by johnnyj on July 23, 2006, at 17:09:03
johnnyj,
if you decide you need to back on an a/d, i support you. you're doing the absolute best you can and it's not the end of the world if you go back on something. i promised myself i'd do the same if i found things too tough. it might not be forever, after all. i've been struggling a lot with anxiety the last few weeks - not sure now if it's related to (my now long-term) remeron w/d or a new thing for me that i'm learning to deal with along with life changes. i'm staying open to trying medication again, if it seems like the best option.
anyway, let us know how it goes and i wish you some relief soon.....
take care,
jules
Posted by musky on July 24, 2006, at 23:15:14
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » musky, posted by johnnyj on July 23, 2006, at 17:09:03
>hey johnny:
Really wishe you would reconsider the drug hopping.. seroquel is another evil antipsychotic... dont wanna go there..
try to take cat naps.. anything to keep you hangin in... and yes that stupid lunesta you are taking for sleep obviously isnt helping cause your not sleeping... yes it could be contriburting to your depresssion..
think... you were doing well.. I think this is just a slump temporarily... up to uyou if you wanna take something... i know what you mean by feeling crappy.. ive been kinda steps backward myself with just tired, panicky , ovehwhelmed,,, crying, and anxiety but then I go to acupuncture and it settles me down for a bit of time... Im just toughing it out with all i got..
Going on holidays for 2 weeks. hoping this will help too.
I know what you mean by the remeron making you want to hurt someone... ihad the same freaking fantasies when i was on it.... it was horrible!!! I never had these tthoughts until I was on it..
I dont know what to say to you johnny... talk to positive people... dont worry aobut the sex stuff right now... i know its a big deal.. but just get your head straight.. and just calm down... dont think negative... keep trying..
i will pray for you again gy...
thanks for your caring for the rest of us... even thought you are rough...
keep postingMusky
think i am done guys. I cannot go on feeling like this. I am close to non-functional. I am Mr. Negative all of the time. I think the lunesta is contributing to depression as I know the lack of sleep is killing me. I have NO motivation to do anything. I am useless like this. NO sex drive at all.
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> The thing I noticed about remeron is it made me dwell on past stuff too much and made me fear I was going to freak out and hurt someone. I was not on the 3.75 dose long enought to see if the benefits were lasting, only one week after withdrawal died down. The thing is all I need is sleep ya know. I keep thinking I will get a good nights sleep and then things will work out but it is not happening.
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> I am thinking my only option may be seroquel. I have no idea.
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> Sorry guys, I hope you all do well and I will pray for you. I am just not normal even though I wish I was.
>
> johnnyj
Posted by musky on July 24, 2006, at 23:22:06
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by cashy72 on July 24, 2006, at 3:43:25
>RIGHT ON CASHY!!! ITotally agree with your advice for johnny...
even this has picked up my spririts!! I have been having it rought the last couple of days myself... overwhelmed .. not handling stress that well.... anxiety,,, dizzy, tired... but IM hangin in... acupuntures helps tone this down for awhile.
I was doin not too bad the last week, but now its yuk again..
sleep isnt as good againl..but well like you say... I just get REAL TOUGH ON MYSELF when i start to spiral... its hard like yu say,, but what can uyou do... you either tough it out or stay on drugs forever with nasty side effects and weird thoughts!!!Musky
Hey Johnny, Sorry too hear your still having it tough mate... You have too break this cycle of negative thinking, try and get angry when your really low, THINK positive thoughts, when your down in the dumps, put on your favourite cd, and turn up the volume real loud... imagine yourself somewhere else... its tough i know, believe me.. another a/d is DEFINATELY not the answer... have you tried Valerian extract for sleeping??.... hang in there my friend, you may only be a day or two from turning that corner which at the moment feels like it's far away, keep going, be strong.................
> HANG IN THERE JOHNNY..
> CASHY72..
Posted by musky on July 24, 2006, at 23:28:27
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » cashy72, posted by johnnyj on July 24, 2006, at 14:13:02
> sounds a bit better for you today johnny
But I dont believe it for one MINUTE that it isnt withdrawl... those docs DONT know the drug and its physiological effects on the body..period..
just think.. that Remeron works on THREE diffent pathways in the brain... of course it wont recover in just 2months!!!! and you are still on lithium right ?? if i recall... enter another drug.. and the lunesta... of course they blame anxiety.. but you have to ask yourself what is causing the anxiety??? thoughts??? the w/d , biochemistry... so like they say you have to change your thinking. that is right advice.. talk to you therapist.. I had some cognitve thereapy myself and it totally makes sense..Hang in theree
MuskyI have been on lunesta and today was tolerable. Went to pdoc and she said my symptoms are anxiety related and said I need to see my therapist every week and try and change my thinking. She said I should not dwell on my physical sympotoms and said she doesn't think it is still withdrawal. If that is the case things are not looking good. I don't feel too much anxiety but have a lot of body stuff and fatigue that is terrible. It is so easy to get negative when one is so tired. She said a body can recover because I asked if a body is permanantely screwed from meds. She didn't think so. I see a new doc on Wed. as my current one is changing jobs. I sit here with a light sweat. My body is so tired and I wonder how long I can last like this? I don't want to fall into a terrible depression because my mind needs somewhere to escape. I am afraid, but I don't want to give up.
Posted by musky on July 24, 2006, at 23:34:17
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » johnnyj, posted by jules354 on July 24, 2006, at 14:16:57
> Hey jules
I thought you were doing the best of all of us.. You were really giving me hope that u could be drug free...
Whats going on?? you say long term withdrawl??? HOw long has it been for you..
NOw im a little worried,, but Im fighting this damn thing to the very end... NO more Remeron or a/d for me.. No matter what.. even if im in a total panick /anxiety.. I will slap myself silly to fight it.... sounds extreme but those drugs are poison and that is no quality of life for me thanky9uGood luck and I hope your anxiety improves
Im having it rought these last few days too, but Im hanging in... 2months off. and going day by day
Muskyjohnnyj,
>
> if you decide you need to back on an a/d, i support you. you're doing the absolute best you can and it's not the end of the world if you go back on something. i promised myself i'd do the same if i found things too tough. it might not be forever, after all. i've been struggling a lot with anxiety the last few weeks - not sure now if it's related to (my now long-term) remeron w/d or a new thing for me that i'm learning to deal with along with life changes. i'm staying open to trying medication again, if it seems like the best option.
>
> anyway, let us know how it goes and i wish you some relief soon.....
>
> take care,
> jules
Posted by johnnyj on July 25, 2006, at 17:32:23
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » johnnyj, posted by jules354 on July 24, 2006, at 14:16:57
Thank you Jules, you are very kind.:)
I slept about 7 hours last night with lunesta. I just had to take something. My mood is very tenious right now. Anxiety is big and I believe that is my biggest problem. The thing is I am better able to think rationally about it right now than when I was on the remeron.
I have a lot of physical stuff like tense stomach, constipation, chest zings, etc. My gut is out of whach that is for sure. I am working on trying to reduce stress and just let things go but it is hard ya know. It is a ton or work and I don't know if I can do it but I like feeling more clear in the head. I see a new doc tomorrow and then we see. take care
johnnyj
Posted by jules354 on July 26, 2006, at 0:19:49
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by musky on July 24, 2006, at 23:34:17
hi musky,
i made plans to see a hypnotherapist and use some homeopathy and rescue remedy to deal with the anxiety. i will let you know how that works out!
all this is making me think there should really be a study done on anxiety in particular in withdrawal...is anyone in the research communty listening???
hang in there- it's been 5 months for me, i can hardly believe it.
take care,
jules
Posted by musky on July 26, 2006, at 0:29:04
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » musky, posted by jules354 on July 26, 2006, at 0:19:49
> Hi jules
yes that sounds good... hypnotherapy.. thought about that myself actually EMDR which is a desensitive treatment to reduce anxiety about certain issues..past and present .. I may try this later.. right now acupuncture is keeping me clean and off the Remeron.. been 2months for me.
Ive also heard of the rescue remedy.. its natural product.. I almost was going to try it but now I think im ok with just meditation, exercise and acupuncture.. going on vacation too ,, that should help(lol)
Good luck... stay clean... takes a LONg time
Im in research ...but not with anxiety .. cancer research.. however I cross paths with ALOT of docs.. I will keep my ears open if I hear of anyone doing research with anxiety.. sometimes if we research tooo much is no good... like with all the stupid meds out there to supposedly "treat this and that disorder..... please! We are a overdiagnosed society if you ask me.. I think we need to calm down and get back to the basics... and just enjoy the life..Musky
hi musky,
>
> i made plans to see a hypnotherapist and use some homeopathy and rescue remedy to deal with the anxiety. i will let you know how that works out!
>
> all this is making me think there should really be a study done on anxiety in particular in withdrawal...is anyone in the research communty listening???
>
> hang in there- it's been 5 months for me, i can hardly believe it.
>
> take care,
> jules
Posted by musky on July 26, 2006, at 0:35:32
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » jules354, posted by johnnyj on July 25, 2006, at 17:32:23
> Hi johnnny
Glad to hear you slept 7hrs.. remember though its drug induced and not the real you ,, but if you were really desperate ... well you did what u had to.. Me IM just toughing it out with the sleep and my own body is slowly balancing out ... and again acupuncture helps you sleep too..
Hang in.. you'll make it.... and be med free like jules, cashy... and me too( slowly!!)... I just take a day at a time with no meds.. and I just dont look back or even think of Remeron! ... done deal for me ... I have to believe this... ive mad it this far without it... so I just keep goin..
Remember too.. dont let the docs dictate everything for you.. do what you think is best for your body... if you trust your doc..fine.. but listen to your instinct... .. thats the best judge.. docs just keep suggesting pillss(most of them anyways)...
Good luck
Musky
Thank you Jules, you are very kind.:)
>
> I slept about 7 hours last night with lunesta. I just had to take something. My mood is very tenious right now. Anxiety is big and I believe that is my biggest problem. The thing is I am better able to think rationally about it right now than when I was on the remeron.
>
> I have a lot of physical stuff like tense stomach, constipation, chest zings, etc. My gut is out of whach that is for sure. I am working on trying to reduce stress and just let things go but it is hard ya know. It is a ton or work and I don't know if I can do it but I like feeling more clear in the head. I see a new doc tomorrow and then we see. take care
>
> johnnyj
Posted by jeninco on July 26, 2006, at 10:33:23
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by musky on July 26, 2006, at 0:35:32
Just wanted to add my update. I tapered down VERY slowly, and low, though not as long as others. I tried stopping at 3.75 and nearly ended up in the hospital, so I went back and immediately started a gradual taper. I went down to as much as 1/16 of a 15 mg pill every 3 days before quitting. For me, this was the right thing to do. My body is very sensitive to medication and I needed to prepare it.
Initially I had some nights where I didn't sleep much, and I did take some ambien every now and then the first month. But now, it's going on 1 1/2 months and I haven't popped an ambien in at least a month. I got where it didn't leave me feeling rested, I just wasn't awake all night.
Like Johnny, insomnia is my biggest fear. In a given week I'd say I sleep 8 hours 4-5 days. I stay up until midnight and get up by 8 (I'm at home with kids). Even so, anxiety or something will keep me up 2-3 nights a week, most of the time. It's unpleasant but not unbearable.
I have experienced no other anxiety or headaches, vs. before when I quit at 1/4 pill and SERIOUSLY thought I would lose my mind. I know there are those of you who said my tapering wasn't a good idea, but for anyone who is trying to quit remeron, I say it's worth while. This is how my doctor got me off zoloft as well.
Hang in there everyone-I wish you all the best.
Posted by johnnyj on July 26, 2006, at 17:08:02
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by jeninco on July 26, 2006, at 10:33:23
If you sleep 8 hours 4/5 nights you will be ok. If I could do that without a sleep aid I would be in heaven. Congrats on the taper. Good luck and I will send a prayer out for ya.
johnnyj
Posted by jeninco on July 26, 2006, at 21:16:00
In reply to Re: I pray that you all » jeninco, posted by johnnyj on July 26, 2006, at 17:08:02
Thank you Johnny. And I do know what you are going through. Insomnia is the reason I started on remeron-all of the sleep aids either stopped working or gave me horrible headaches.
I am reading an excellent book now that I highly recommend. It's called, "Say Good Night to Insomnia: The Six-Week, Drug-Free Program Developed At Harvard Medical School" by Gregg D. Jacobs. It basically teaches you to reteach yourself how to sleep and to let go of the things you have taught yourself to believe about why you can't sleep.
I completely understand what it's like though to go on and on without sleep. Experts will tell you that eventually your body will kick in and overwhelm you with the need for sleep, but it hardly happened for me.
Can't ambien and lunesta be responsible for bringing on depression? I felt a little bit of that from taking ambien every other day or so; it was one of the reasons I was able to just try getting by on less sleep. Have you thought about talking to a therapist? I've been advised to try that, hypnosis, accupuncture-things like that.
I really hope you are able to get some relief soon. I'm so sorry you are having such a rotten time.
Posted by jules354 on August 3, 2006, at 15:16:00
In reply to Re: I pray that you all, posted by musky on July 26, 2006, at 0:29:04
hi musky, and everyone,
i've been doing hypnotherapy, Bach Flower Essences Rescue Remedy and homeopathy for the last couple weeks for intense anxiety and am feeling so much better. i've never really had bad anxiety before i went off remeron, so this has been scary...but just wanted to pass along the word. the falling-off-cliff feeling in my stomach has been replaced by a nice calm feeling, even if some anxiety comes up now and again.
take care,
jules
Posted by cashy72 on August 5, 2006, at 5:09:23
In reply to anxiety update » musky, posted by jules354 on August 3, 2006, at 15:16:00
Hey there guys,
thats interesting... i bought some rescue remedy, and it really does the trick when anxiety crops up in the mornings as it seems too do... Hope your all doin' well.
Cashy72
Posted by musky on August 13, 2006, at 23:59:13
In reply to Re: anxiety update, posted by cashy72 on August 5, 2006, at 5:09:23
>Hi all
been awhile since I posted... just got back from holidays... and I felt not too bad during this time... I had some bouts with anxiety /panic type feeling out of the blue, but overcame this by just plain meditation and a "tapping" technique that the acupuncturist taught me some time ago... it really does work if the anxiety is overwhelming... I think holidays did help change my mind alot,,, did lots of swimming and beach time and just being with nature.. I think my mood has been fairly stable... still get these so called "episodes " but they are not every day... anxiety that I was getting every morning strong has somewhat reduced these days.. dont know if its holidays related or if indeed my body is slowly balancing out... only time will tell as i return to work tomorrow..
My sleep has been pretty good now... some nights i wake up a few times, but that could be hormonal.. I dont have any trouble to fall asleep. I usually have been getting 6-8hrs/nite.. which is pretty good ... I just toughed it out and absoulutely did NOT take any sleep aids... I have been clean from ativan for 2yrs now and know that I can manage without it... its a nice feeling not to be tied to this pill... that I have my own control within me..
I have often wondered about that rescue remedy and was going to try it some time ago... so far i have mangaged on my own and want to continue to do so if I can... I just try not to dwell on this stuff... Its been 3months off the Remeron for me now.. and I am glad... my appetite is getting much better and IM not sooo restless as I was when on it... I am not as scared being off of it now like I was before... I dont think of it every day either like i use to... so I am just taking one day at a time...Time will heal
I hope you all are doing better.. johnny how are you??? and jules sounds like the rescue remedy is working for you.. thats great... its completely safe and natural.. good choice.. the only thing I have noticed thats wierd is my memory blanks out off and on since being off the Remeron... has anyone else got this?? like I cant remember a name or something ,, then i finally kick in... its wierd...never had this problem before... wondering if the brain is just readjusting to being abused for so long by the Remeron...
MuskyHey there guys,
> thats interesting... i bought some rescue remedy, and it really does the trick when anxiety crops up in the mornings as it seems too do... Hope your all doin' well.
> Cashy72
Posted by cashy72 on August 14, 2006, at 9:14:37
In reply to Re: anxiety update, posted by musky on August 13, 2006, at 23:59:13
Hey Musky, glad you enjoyed a nice holiday, it really does you some good, some time out too chill, and unwind...which is difficult during a normal day at home and work.! I've been off Remeron now for just a little longer than you, and although i wake a few times during the night, and some mornings have a bout of anxiety, i just deal with it and get on.. it's all you can do.
As for the memory thing, it's SO strange, i have exactly the same thing, i just can't recall a simple word, or name or something, and then it clicks, So, this for sure has got too be linked too the effects of the Mirtazapine, and it's alteration of how the brain works.. I really hope this begins too sort itself out.. but at the moment, my memory is quite bad...certainly not what it should be like for someone who's 34!!
Glad your doin' ok. I haven't heard anyuthing of JOhhny, or Jules for a while, hope their both OK.
Take it easy.
Cashy72.
Posted by jules354 on August 14, 2006, at 18:00:16
In reply to Re: anxiety update, posted by cashy72 on August 14, 2006, at 9:14:37
hi guys,
glad to know you're both doing ok, musky and cashy72. musky, just an fyi my acupuncturist recommended taking rescue remedy no more than 3-4 times/week, just in case you hadn't heard that...gelsemium homeopathy has been helping me too. my anxiety seems to be worst at night before falling asleep these days, but it's not bad every night, so i'm not too discouraged. i have a big project at work due in a few weeks and i think once that's finished i'll be feeling a lot better. i haven't taken any western medicine for the anxiety or the sleep. yoga's been helping a lot too.
take care,
jules
Posted by musky on August 16, 2006, at 0:20:48
In reply to Re: anxiety update, posted by cashy72 on August 14, 2006, at 9:14:37
>Hey Cashy:
so you have this memory thing too... wow... anyways a dip in mood tonight suddenly.. I hate this , but again like you say you just have to deal with it and move on... its those posts that help us all through... I hope this mood thing finally straightens out... I was talking with a long time girlfriend of mine the other night and was telling her how I couldnt believe that I stayed on that stupid Remeron for 3yrs!!! because I never felt good on it and wondered WHY???!!! I kept taking it... dah!!! again, foolishly listening to the damn doc... like what do they know how you really feel.. anyways at least I am definitely clearer headed in the mornings now, thank God
later
MuskyHey Musky, glad you enjoyed a nice holiday, it really does you some good, some time out too chill, and unwind...which is difficult during a normal day at home and work.! I've been off Remeron now for just a little longer than you, and although i wake a few times during the night, and some mornings have a bout of anxiety, i just deal with it and get on.. it's all you can do.
> As for the memory thing, it's SO strange, i have exactly the same thing, i just can't recall a simple word, or name or something, and then it clicks, So, this for sure has got too be linked too the effects of the Mirtazapine, and it's alteration of how the brain works.. I really hope this begins too sort itself out.. but at the moment, my memory is quite bad...certainly not what it should be like for someone who's 34!!
> Glad your doin' ok. I haven't heard anyuthing of JOhhny, or Jules for a while, hope their both OK.
> Take it easy.
> Cashy72.
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