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Posted by saw on February 28, 2005, at 12:37:25
In reply to Re: Holding fingers and toes tight. » saw, posted by TamaraJ on February 28, 2005, at 10:54:09
Thanks guys
Em - umm - no chocolate. I have about 33 pounds to lose.
Never mind sobriety - being in hospital is making me want to smoke again. And I only have a month left before my year's anniversary of giving up cold turkey.
I can't drink, I can't eat chocolate, I can't smoke, I can't ummm have sex (not that I want to anyway). Now what's left?
I know - I'll chew gum!
((UGH))
Love me - (NOT biting my nails!!!!)
Posted by just so sad on February 28, 2005, at 12:37:28
In reply to I'm ready for March 1st (nm) » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on February 27, 2005, at 19:02:08
Okay, I'm half in the doorway, but haven't quite decided if I'm strong enough to enter...the last few days have seemed better emotionally (effexor finally kicking in after 6 weeks?) and I didn't have a drink yesterday at all - I thought about it but didn't "need" one so I challenged my ususal pattern of "well, if I don't need one it will be okay to have just one, then I'll stop" which of course I don't. Anyway, my big block right now is I'm going on vacation in a couple of weeks and would really like a pina colada by the beach, you know?? Can I join you all when I get back??
Not so sad...
Posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 12:46:00
In reply to Re: I'm ready for March 1st, posted by just so sad on February 28, 2005, at 12:37:28
I'm really glad you're doing better. Of course you can join us when you get back. Maybe you could set a date now that makes sense -- some time after your vacation. I really recommend setting a date. It helps to get you mentally prepared.We'll be here for you when you're ready.
Posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 13:26:45
In reply to Re: let's do some preparation, pc crushed, posted by TofuEmmy on February 28, 2005, at 9:34:00
I'm getting kind of freaked out these days about weight gain also. I've been skinny as all get out for a number of years and then when I quit drugs and cigarettes, I gained (a much-needed) twenty pounds. I was still pretty skinny but not scary-looking.Now I think I've gained maybe five or ten more pounds, which I know doesn't sound like a lot, but I'm really feeling it. My clothes are tight. And a friend commented on it the other day. I'm starting to freak out because I'm afraid I won't be able to stop it from continuing. (I've been eating a lot more than I used to -- I don't know if it's my new medication or what.)
Anyway, I've never been one who believed in dieting or depriving myself of things that I really want (just cutting back a bit and exercising, that's my motto), so I will do the chocolate thing. It's more important to stop drinking. I can worry about the weight thing later. Exercise is key. And I'll try to be moderate also.
I don't know why I'm blathering on about all this. Sorry if that was boring.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 28, 2005, at 14:26:34
In reply to chocolate » TofuEmmy, posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 13:26:45
But don't forget how many calories there are in a drink.
Chocolate (or orange juice or tea with honey) help to keep you from having sugar/carb withdrawal along with any other withdrawal.
Posted by just so sad on February 28, 2005, at 14:56:48
In reply to Re: I'm ready for March 1st » just so sad, posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 12:46:00
Posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 22:51:06
In reply to Thanks so much (nm) » crushedout, posted by just so sad on February 28, 2005, at 14:56:48
I had very little to drink tonight. I wasn't really even into it. But in 11 minutes it will be March 1st, which is partlycloudy's and my quit day. Yay! I'm very happy to be switching to rice milk.
Posted by partlycloudy on March 1, 2005, at 4:43:54
In reply to I've had my last drink, posted by crushedout on February 28, 2005, at 22:51:06
Good for you! I did a dry run last night....
Posted by TofuEmmy on March 1, 2005, at 10:04:31
In reply to Re: chocolate » crushedout, posted by AuntieMel on February 28, 2005, at 14:26:34
I'm sure chocolate isn't seriously the bestest thing. It's supposedly addictive too...but it did help me handle the wicked bad cravings I was having. Now I'm on week 3, and the cravings aren't so bad...so I'm eating less of the dark evil yummy stuff. It's good to have some in the car to keep me away from liquor stores.
I had a baaaaaad day yesterday - the kind which was just enough of an excuse to drink. But instead, I went to a meeting. By the time the meeting ended, the liquor stores were closed, and I was safe. I guess I need to learn new habits....d'oh emmy!
Good luck to everyone. E
Posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 11:57:22
In reply to Re: chocolate » crushedout, posted by AuntieMel on February 28, 2005, at 14:26:34
PC and I agreed to have our first babble sobriety meeting tonight in open at 9 p.m.
PC, would you like to do 7 instead? I'll be home early tonight.
Once we agree on a time, anyone is welcome to join us.
Posted by partlycloudy on March 1, 2005, at 12:02:43
In reply to meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join, posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 11:57:22
7pm would be even better, that's great!
Posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 12:08:48
In reply to Re: meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 1, 2005, at 12:02:43
Posted by AuntieMel on March 1, 2005, at 13:18:19
In reply to Re: chocolate » AuntieMel, posted by TofuEmmy on March 1, 2005, at 10:04:31
There are studies that say chocolate is actually good for you. And it releases endorphins to make you feel better.
I just eat the darkest stuff I can find so I don't get very much added sugar. For me at least, if it's really dark (I like Lindt 85% Cocoa) it doesn't take a lot to satisfy either.
I ate a lot more of it at first, but I only eat about a bar a week now. I didn't find it addicting at all.
Good to see you hanging here.
Posted by just so sad on March 1, 2005, at 13:25:33
In reply to meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join, posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 11:57:22
how do I participate? I've never done the open thing before? PS I haven't drank for 2 days!!
Not quite so sad
Posted by just so sad on March 1, 2005, at 13:26:46
In reply to Re: meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 1, 2005, at 12:02:43
Posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 13:29:34
In reply to 7 pm in what time zone?? (nm), posted by just so sad on March 1, 2005, at 13:26:46
Posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 13:35:50
In reply to Re: meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join » crushedout, posted by just so sad on March 1, 2005, at 13:25:33
Congrats on not drinking, not so sad (we need to change your name)!I hope someone will jump in and correct me if I'm not explaining this to you correctly: open is a Yahoo chat room. There's a link to it all the way at the bottom (righthand corner) of the substance abuse page (or any babble page, I think). If you don't already have a yahoo ID you have to set one up (or you may want to create a new name as "just so" or "not so sad" so that we recognize you). I think it's fairly self-explanatory, but I'm not positive.
Then you enter "chat" to get into the room. Sometimes Yahoo acts up but lately it's been better than it used to be, I think.
Does anyone have better directions for justsosad than these?
Posted by just so sad on March 1, 2005, at 13:38:45
In reply to open » just so sad, posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 13:35:50
Posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 17:57:20
In reply to Re: meeting tonite in open pc /any who want to join » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 1, 2005, at 12:02:43
Posted by partlycloudy on March 2, 2005, at 9:02:39
In reply to I'm in open (nm), posted by crushedout on March 1, 2005, at 17:57:20
The anxiety yesterday and even after chat (which was great in that it was wonderful to meet you, crushed, and just so sad); but the evening did not turn out as planned. I never even really got on the wagon before I jumped off again. What on earth is wrong with what I'm doing? It's like an OCD behaviour, I swear! I didn't get blotto or anything, just felt I *had* to have a glass of wine. So much for good intentions.
I don't really feel like a failure - this in itself must be progress of some kind - but creating a deadline for myself was not something I reacted well to. Come to think of it, they always freaked me out at school, too.
Gahhhh.
Posted by just so sad on March 2, 2005, at 10:52:57
In reply to I'm *really* no good at this » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 2, 2005, at 9:02:39
If we were good at this, we wouldn't be looking for help from each other! Don't beat yourself up. I had bloodwork to get done this morning, so last night I had a *bottle* of wine after two days of no alcohol at all, and I think subconsiously I want to get some bad news - you know, that my liver is shot or something horrendous, to scare me into quitting. But back to you - just keep trying - I know how hard it is when that little voice in your head is saying not to drink, while your hands are opening the bottle...
Sad
Posted by crushedout on March 2, 2005, at 10:54:46
In reply to I'm *really* no good at this » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 2, 2005, at 9:02:39
PC,
I'm really glad you don't see it as a failure. Slips are supposed to be a part of recovery, so maybe you can see this as progress and learn from whatever happened. I guess also the "deadline" method of quitting might not work for everyone.
I just think that usually the waking up after a bad night of drinking and quitting when you're regretful seems like an ineffective way to quit.
Can folks think of alternatives? I bet there are some, but I can't think of what they would be.
PC, maybe you weren't ready even though you thought you were? Or maybe you are but you wanted to rebel for one night, or test the waters? What do you think? Do you want to keep trying the sobriety thing with me?
I'll be ok either way. I'm pretty firmly committed to not drinking at this point. I have a way of doing things very firmly once I decide (it takes me forever sometimes to make a decision though). But I welcome your company.
Posted by AuntieMel on March 2, 2005, at 11:29:45
In reply to I'm *really* no good at this » crushedout, posted by partlycloudy on March 2, 2005, at 9:02:39
Were you rebellious as a kid? I was - out of self defense mostly, but rebellious for sure.
The one thing that kept me drinking longer was being nagged by family members. They, by golly, weren't going to dictate what I do! I'll show them!
Maybe deadlines do the same thing to you? 'I'll do it when I'm darn good and ready, not because of some arbitrary date.'
Of course the little addiction critter in our head will always tell us it's not time. It's the critter's job. Our job is to tell the critter to go take a flying <insert favorite word here>
Posted by just so sad on March 2, 2005, at 11:54:37
In reply to Re: I'm *really* no good at this » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on March 2, 2005, at 11:29:45
Posted by partlycloudy on March 2, 2005, at 12:00:48
In reply to PC - want to talk in Open? (nm), posted by just so sad on March 2, 2005, at 11:54:37
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