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Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:11:18
So I sent Dr. John a private message asking for his advice on how to deal with the poster that gave me horrible advice... and here's his response:
I'd love to reply to you, but it seems there's a small group of individuals who seem to be engaged in some sort of game regarding PB and this community and I won't be a part of it.
If you're looking for support and a helpful community of caring folks, then I hope you'll stay and continue to see if this is a good fit for your needs. However, after reading some of the comments on PB about what you and others think of this community, I suspect this is just a "test" issue for you:
"Dr John's message made it very clear that rather than showing Dr Bob a professional courtesy and civility, by welcoming those who are exploring other places to gather and share information about mental health, he conducts a site where Bob bashing is not only tolerated, but endorsed."
How would you respond to you if someone said such a thing about you? I suspect you don't know me personally and if you had ever met me in person, you would never assume to say such a hurtful thing. I have conducted this site (and one before it) far longer than many others, and I have no interest in 'bashing' others. I offered a welcome and get insulted for doing so. I learned my lesson, and hope others learn theirs from this unfortunate experience.
Best regards,
DocJohn*** HE ASSUMES I WROTE THAT POST ON PB!
So I wrote back... and let him know my thoughts on his high school ways.
I am beside myself... I cannot believe he would block me and send me such a childish response.
Looks like PB is a sensitive subject for him...
Well, you know what, no one at PB would tell me to get off drugs. Nor would Dr. Bob act like a childish fool.
My advice? If you want actual help with mental health issues, don't bother going there. If you want to be social, I'm sure it's fine... as long as you don't offend any of Dr. John's friends.
Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:19:00
In reply to Psych Central- a good reason not to bother, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:11:18
Instead of addressing the issues, Dr. John decided to put his tail between his legs and respond with this:
Well, thank you for you writing to let me know of your feelings and intentions. There's little I can say to such a message, or to the immature fight that folks from PB brought here.
I made a mistake by welcoming PB members here. I learned from my mistake. I hope you do the same. Take care.
Just for the record... I got kicked off for "slamming" someone... when actually all I did was disagree with her "advice" (or advis as she liked to type)- and I private messaged Dr. John on how to deal with such a poster- knowing that all boarders run they sites differently... I wanted to make sure I didn't rock the boat.
Dr. John... you will be sorry
> So I sent Dr. John a private message asking for his advice on how to deal with the poster that gave me horrible advice... and here's his response:
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> I'd love to reply to you, but it seems there's a small group of individuals who seem to be engaged in some sort of game regarding PB and this community and I won't be a part of it.
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> If you're looking for support and a helpful community of caring folks, then I hope you'll stay and continue to see if this is a good fit for your needs. However, after reading some of the comments on PB about what you and others think of this community, I suspect this is just a "test" issue for you:
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> "Dr John's message made it very clear that rather than showing Dr Bob a professional courtesy and civility, by welcoming those who are exploring other places to gather and share information about mental health, he conducts a site where Bob bashing is not only tolerated, but endorsed."
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> How would you respond to you if someone said such a thing about you? I suspect you don't know me personally and if you had ever met me in person, you would never assume to say such a hurtful thing. I have conducted this site (and one before it) far longer than many others, and I have no interest in 'bashing' others. I offered a welcome and get insulted for doing so. I learned my lesson, and hope others learn theirs from this unfortunate experience.
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> Best regards,
> DocJohn
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> *** HE ASSUMES I WROTE THAT POST ON PB!
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> So I wrote back... and let him know my thoughts on his high school ways.
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> I am beside myself... I cannot believe he would block me and send me such a childish response.
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> Looks like PB is a sensitive subject for him...
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> Well, you know what, no one at PB would tell me to get off drugs. Nor would Dr. Bob act like a childish fool.
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> My advice? If you want actual help with mental health issues, don't bother going there. If you want to be social, I'm sure it's fine... as long as you don't offend any of Dr. John's friends.
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Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:32:12
In reply to Psych Central- a good reason not to bother, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:11:18
Wow- he's gone to great measures to make sure I don't visit again... all I wanted was to see if he replied to my last message... haha.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 23:14:29
In reply to I'm blocked from the entire site now!, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:32:12
Is he maybe defending De Bob in an odd way by say not wanting the babblers who came with a Dr Bob clique or bashing to ruin the mental health area and feel to his board? I do not know I am just thinking out loud and on board...
Posted by jujube on February 2, 2005, at 0:01:46
In reply to Re: I'm blocked from the entire site now!, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 23:14:29
It would be nice to believe that a dr. and the administrator of a mental health board would be acting with such generousity of spirit and towards the greater good. I am at a loss as to whether to give him the benefit of the doubt, however, given his almost mocking welcome post and his knee-jerk treatment of Angielala. And, I am the type that always gives people the benefit of the doubt, no matter how many times they disappoint or hurt me.
> Is he maybe defending De Bob in an odd way by say not wanting the babblers who came with a Dr Bob clique or bashing to ruin the mental health area and feel to his board? I do not know I am just thinking out loud and on board...
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 1:06:55
In reply to Re: I'm blocked from the entire site now! » Fallen4MyT, posted by jujube on February 2, 2005, at 0:01:46
I don't know I just popped that out as a point to ponder and give it all the benefit of a doubt
> It would be nice to believe that a dr. and the administrator of a mental health board would be acting with such generousity of spirit and towards the greater good. I am at a loss as to whether to give him the benefit of the doubt, however, given his almost mocking welcome post and his knee-jerk treatment of Angielala. And, I am the type that always gives people the benefit of the doubt, no matter how many times they disappoint or hurt me.
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> > Is he maybe defending De Bob in an odd way by say not wanting the babblers who came with a Dr Bob clique or bashing to ruin the mental health area and feel to his board? I do not know I am just thinking out loud and on board...
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Posted by Gabbix2 on February 2, 2005, at 2:13:56
In reply to Re: I'm blocked from the entire site now! » jujube, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 1:06:55
> > > Is he maybe defending De Bob in an odd way by say not wanting the babblers who came with a Dr Bob clique or bashing to ruin the mental health area and feel to his board? I do not know I am just thinking out loud and on board...Well I think the benefit of the doubt is a good policy, I most definitely don't think it's a good idea to compare the two boards.
There are problems on both of them and I think a lot of what you see as the good of one over the other depends upon where you happen to be standing at the moment.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:25:57
In reply to Re: I'm blocked from the entire site now! » Fallen4MyT, posted by Gabbix2 on February 2, 2005, at 2:13:56
I won't be a member of either board as of 3 a.m friday.....you in the tub gab :) ?
> > > > Is he maybe defending De Bob in an odd way by say not wanting the babblers who came with a Dr Bob clique or bashing to ruin the mental health area and feel to his board? I do not know I am just thinking out loud and on board...
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> Well I think the benefit of the doubt is a good policy, I most definitely don't think it's a good idea to compare the two boards.
> There are problems on both of them and I think a lot of what you see as the good of one over the other depends upon where you happen to be standing at the moment.
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Posted by nikkit2 on February 2, 2005, at 3:42:46
In reply to Psych Central- a good reason not to bother, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:11:18
"he conducts a site where Bob bashing is not only tolerated, but endorsed"
Yes, that was one of my experiences there, and one of the two main reasons I don't wish to return.
Nikki
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 3:58:15
In reply to Re: I'm blocked from the entire site now! » Gabbix2, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:25:57
Dare I ask why?
> I won't be a member of either board as of 3 a.m friday.....you in the tub gab :) ?
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> > Well I think the benefit of the doubt is a good policy, I most definitely don't think it's a good idea to compare the two boards.
> > There are problems on both of them and I think a lot of what you see as the good of one over the other depends upon where you happen to be standing at the moment.
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Posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 6:50:15
In reply to Psych Central- a good reason not to bother, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:11:18
But I feel better to have decided to stop even reading over there. In such a fragile community as we have as those with mental health problems, there can be no room for narrow mindedness. I know my way around here; and I understand even if I don't agree with the rules.
As for the other site, there is no unringing of the bell. What's been said, even though erased, left its trace of ill feeling.What's this about you going away Friday?
Posted by medhed on February 2, 2005, at 7:23:20
In reply to Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:19:00
Hey I know Dr. John...
Dr. John and the Medicine Show!
Posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 12:52:41
In reply to I feel bad that you got slammed for what *I* said » Angielala, posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 6:50:15
It doesn't matter what anyone said anymore. I didn't really want to be on another board the way I am over here... I was just trying to get some ideas from people as far as where doctors might be found...
No of this really matters. I have my PB peeps and that's all I need.
Posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 12:53:10
In reply to Re: Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board » Angielala, posted by medhed on February 2, 2005, at 7:23:20
That sounds like a great band name!
> Hey I know Dr. John...
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> Dr. John and the Medicine Show!
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 13:24:58
In reply to Re: Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board » Angielala, posted by medhed on February 2, 2005, at 7:23:20
DocJohn does NOT regret inviting PB posters to his board. Will this bashing ever stop?
AG
Posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 13:35:42
In reply to Re: Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board, posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 13:24:58
Honey- he TOLD me in his email that he regrets it. It's not bashing.
But you keep rehashing this stuff. I know it's bothering you, but I have put it to bed, really. PLease please please stop bringing it up, ok? I keep replying toyou,but I fear I'm bringing it up by doing that.
> DocJohn does NOT regret inviting PB posters to his board. Will this bashing ever stop?
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> AG
Posted by Sabina on February 2, 2005, at 14:38:17
In reply to Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:19:00
I'm sorry that you didn't receive the support that you needed at Psych Central. I haven't seen the thread that led to your disciplinary action over there, but I have had friends get PBC'd and blocked on *this* site (in the past) for infractions with which I disagreed. So I'm not saying that our "site Docs" are infallible.
Still, I feel a trifled disconcerted to read posts of Dr. John's "private" messages to you, along with words like, "Dr. John...you will be sorry." Hey, watch out! What if his house was coincidentally TP'd tonight? ;-) (Kidding aside, it did kind of scare me to read that.) If you *told* him you were going public with the PM's, then I apologize. It's just that I know I would feel violated if someone published my PM's online, *even* if I had been a stinker to that person. Two wrongs and all that...
It just added another layer to an already unpleasant situation when I read those things. I have a hard time accepting that Dr. John regrets welcoming *me* to his Community from PB. However, since that's what you posted (in a public forum) that he said, I will be providing this link to him and asking for his response or clarification to your report of his comments. Just for my personal satisfaction, mind. If that's what he honestly meant to say then I don't much care to lurk there anymore. I'll just go back to lurking nowhere.
I was thinking that perhaps you made the comment about Dr. John because you're just really overwrought right now? You've got a lot to think about and a lot to look forward to! Maybe you're just really worrying about what that poster said to you about your meds re: pregnancy and it's gotten under your skin? Then getting blocked from Psych Central when you were looking for help must have stung, I know. Try to stay positive and not to take it to heart too much. Both of these sites have their own quirks and we all have admin disagreements at one time or another. Like you said, you've got PB to keep you company for now.
Good luck with your little peanut.
Posted by Bobby on February 2, 2005, at 14:43:11
In reply to Re: Dr. John regrets inviting PB posters to his board, posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 13:35:42
a John is someone who frequents prostitutes. Am I wrong?
Posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 15:24:21
In reply to According to the dictionary, posted by Bobby on February 2, 2005, at 14:43:11
Wrong thread - that one was over on Relationships.
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 15:37:31
In reply to According to the dictionary, posted by Bobby on February 2, 2005, at 14:43:11
> a John is someone who frequents prostitutes. Am I wrong?
I have absolutely no comment to make that could possibly meet the civility guidelines of this board in reference to your comment. It just boggles the mind.
AG
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 16:16:11
In reply to Re: According to the dictionary » Bobby, posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 15:24:21
> Wrong thread - that one was over on Relationships.
If this was a wrong postings that should've been on another board than I sincerely offer my apologies to Bobby for my comment. With the name John and in this particular thread, it appeared to be connected to pc. I'm sorry Bobby, if I have made a mistake.AG
Posted by TofuEmmy on February 2, 2005, at 16:38:45
In reply to According to the dictionary, posted by Bobby on February 2, 2005, at 14:43:11
Ya know - I thought I had finished crying over this. How low can you possibly go??
Posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 16:47:06
In reply to Re: According to the dictionary - bobby » partlycloudy, posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 16:16:11
I was just trying to make a little joke, since although I am sure that Bobby was talking about this thread, there happens to be one that touches on that particular meaning of the word, on the Relationships board.
It's not a good day for joking, though.
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 17:42:05
In reply to Re: According to the dictionary - Angel, posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 16:47:06
> I was just trying to make a little joke, since although I am sure that Bobby was talking about this thread, there happens to be one that touches on that particular meaning of the word, on the Relationships board.
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> It's not a good day for joking, though.Oh ok, that obviously went over my head. duh!!! I guess I take my apology back and my original comments stand.
It's been a wonderful day in the neighbourhood -- sorry, singing Mr.Rogers song. Do you know That in the US? If so, you can join in.
AG
Posted by partlycloudy on February 2, 2005, at 17:58:23
In reply to Re: According to the dictionary - Angel » partlycloudy, posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 17:42:05
I know ALL the words to that song. He was such a lovable, geeky guy.
EVERYBODY SING:It's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood
A beautiful for a neighbour
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
It's a beautiful day in this beauty wood
A beautiful day for a beauty
Would you be mine?
Could you be mineI have always wanted to have a neighbour
Just like you
I've always wanted to live in a neighbourhood
With you, so -Let's make the most of this beautiful day
Since we're together, we might as well say
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be
My neighbour.Won't you please?
Won't you please?
Please, won't you be
My neighbour.(tie dorky sneakers and close the closet door....)
love,
partlycloudy
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