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Posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 10:54:13
In reply to Re: :( » Magdalena, posted by Simus on May 29, 2004, at 23:31:30
Simus, i hope you are right, when this depression does lift i hope this will all seem a distant past..im not ususally so negative i just feel things that are important to me are being threatned and its making me feel really sad and hopeless...you are right i should be better to myself and not feel defeated when things like this happen, if my bf doesnt understand then there isnt too much i can do about it.. i just don't want him to think i dont like doing things with him, i bet its a blow to his ego... the truth is and im sure you all understand is that i want to do these things, as im sure you guys do too, and maybe you guys are already at that point where you can be yourselfs again...i cant wait for when its my turn:)
i will concentrate on becoming better and i know doing things i a uncomforatble with is part of the healing process, what he doenst know is i have done things like this all the time but he doenst know...its my fault cause i havnt told him..
sigh
anyway
thanks for the words im greatful i have all of you to talk to, :)Mags
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 13:01:24
In reply to RE::: Mag » mystic, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 10:47:11
Well mag that wasnt a very nice e-mail but you know the reason you got it..You have got to trust him and try to explain the way that you feel..Explain to him the feelings that you have when you go to the movies..explain to him that you have to have a way out if needed and most of the time if you know that you are with a safe person that you are fine..I know with my husband he knows how I feel and he is understanding and knows if I have to leave we have to go right then no questions asked and even though right now we dont do alot of things I have to get myself straightened out but when I can do things I know he is there...Not that there are plenty of times still that he doesnt understand and it is hard for him it is hard for anyone that doesnt totally understand the extent of it...They love us and want us to be ok..
I wish oh how I wish for all of us that this will go away someday and I do know from experience with the paxil that it does help you just have to get to the right dosage and you are on way too low right now...did you start your increase today??...and you know that I'm right there with you on that track also increasing takes me forever and I'm struggling myself after 2 weeks on the increase but hopefully i can realize that now I'm 2 weeks into it and that i wasnt feeling good at all before..!!!...so I might still be feeling that same way or maybe a little better...
Mag maybe print some stuff off the computer and give it to him to read whatever you can find to make him understand a little better and then just sit down with him calmly and try to let him know everything that you are feeling...I cant harm right now things seem a little strained anyway my friend so please be honest with him and see where it goes..You may deal with this at some level your whole life and will need someone to be in your corner...
Let me know how the rest of your day goes and keep in touch I will be checking in...Your are loved and you will be ok I promise we all will..Take care and try to just relax and not beat yourself up about all of this...You did make the right decision for yourself for today maybe not for always but for today you did..!!!>.your friend Mystic
Posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 13:26:58
In reply to RE::: Mag » mystic, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 10:47:11
Honey I am right there with you...I bailed on a picnic today because I was feeling anxious so I tried to make someething up about my stomach hurting, and then I finally said it was because I was having panic attacks..(mainly because Im hungover)BF says first you sick and now its panic attacks. Youre making it up. Youre making it up is the worst thing you could say or think. And I am getting married in two weeks. SOMEONE is going to have to learn that we are not making this up. Tell him about it, maybe he will understand better than mine...they just get mad becaus eit never happened to them. Hang in there. I am going to go be lazy and enjoy myself.
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 13:47:50
In reply to RE::: Mag, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 13:26:58
Anakin you bad...hangover...I hate that it definately makes the anxiety worse..does your boyfriend usually understand?...me off to the grocery store that should be fun...not...mystic
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 14:35:34
In reply to RE::: Mag, posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 13:01:24
Mag,
I feel so bad about your situation. I liked Mystic's message to you. If you try to explain this to your boyfriend and don't know how, I think I remember (not sure) that Paxil's makers put out a flier that included a section for the family/friends and it was good information to help them understand how depression/anxiety affects you. Maybe you can find it on line. I wish you the best, sweetie. It is bad enough that we have to face depression/anxiety. But then we have the way it affects everything in our lives too.
Keep us informed. I will be praying for you. God bless.
Posted by trucker on May 30, 2004, at 16:42:10
In reply to RE::: Mag, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 13:26:58
to all, if your boy friends don't understand the situation, maybe they should head donw the raod... it is a real condition we have ..nothing made up.. it is a chemical imbalance and trying to get the meds at a good balance for each of us is a rough thing to do.. if i were dating and or getting married and they didn't understand i'd be postponing the wedding or telling em to hit the road jack!!!!in the long run it will save you money and mentally!! a thought. i say things most wouldn't say for fear of hurting someones feelings... the truth, well it hurts sometimes, but is non the less true
trucker
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> Honey I am right there with you...I bailed on a picnic today because I was feeling anxious so I tried to make someething up about my stomach hurting, and then I finally said it was because I was having panic attacks..(mainly because Im hungover)BF says first you sick and now its panic attacks. Youre making it up. Youre making it up is the worst thing you could say or think. And I am getting married in two weeks. SOMEONE is going to have to learn that we are not making this up. Tell him about it, maybe he will understand better than mine...they just get mad becaus eit never happened to them. Hang in there. I am going to go be lazy and enjoy myself.
Posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 17:29:03
In reply to Redirected Lexaproers, posted by jlynne on March 13, 2004, at 1:31:16
:) thanks all you guys, you made me smile, it is hard explaining it to someone esp someone who you are afraid of losing but he needs to know this about me and i think it might be today that i tell him..or try to. thanks for the encouragement and trucker you are right, its so important for the bf;s to understand because they should be on your 'team' or so to speak, Mystic thats wonderful that you have such a careing husband, i feel a little better because my best friend took me out today to buy new sunglasses and go for a long country drive in this beautiful weather and listening to loud music. no wonder shes my best friend, we are great together.
anyway i am off to talk to the bf about this cause he is back from the track now...(:S)
love you all, :)
i'll check in later
ps i started my increase today..hopefully no side effects...too soon to tell.
Mag
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 18:23:02
In reply to increase, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 17:29:03
Hey Mag good for you for upping your dosage now dont worry because we are always here for you...I hope that it goes well with you bf and that he understands and can help you in your process... I'm also happy that you have a best friend that can pick you up and cheer you up..I have a lot of friends a lot but there are very few that can read my mind and know what I need at the time and help me get it..even if it is just to get my mind off things and stop me from beating myself up and that is what it sounds like that you have...I'm happy for you...could you just write a quick post to let us know how it all went tonight that would be greatly appreciated..take care my friend and take good care of yourself...Mystic
Posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 18:24:22
In reply to increase, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 17:29:03
I feel better too. BF called to make sure I was ok...I used to not understand until it happened to me. My mom is on like 5 xanax a day and when we were younger and she would get upset wed say just pop a xanax....like it would make it all better. It doesnt always, and I now understand so much more about my mom. She didnt want me to go on medI htink because of ho addicted she probably is now...I am thinking about going back on paxil. That seemed to "work" better for me, I just am going to have to figure out something not to gain so much weight...lex has been great for that, I havent gained any just a five pound fluctuation..but I dont feel like it made me as stable.
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 19:08:05
In reply to Re: increase, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 18:24:22
Hey I can understand that I think that my mother had problems also but she never handled them very well she just abused her children...When I had melissa I became aware and I made sure that she knew that this is a sickness and illness a biological thing and there is also some things from it that are behavioral..my mother never showed us unconditional love I remember being afraid my whole life always afraid of what was going to happen when I woke in the morning and not knowing there is no excuse for that none at all..So I know that there is some chemical and some behavoral and I broke the cycle with my daughter I taught her not to be scared I taught her that no matter who it is they can cause you pain and they can do things to you that are not acceptible no one ever told me that and my mother knew about my abuse but because it was a family member I guess it was ok...But no more my daughter does have some anxiety and she knows to call me and I can calm her down and I have made her less afraid of meds than I am because I was brainwashed to think that meds where bad..but she knows if she needs them she can take them...I thank god for that...And I also do not blame myself because I know that I was the best mother for her and I know that I did everything right this time I broke the cycle..but it is in our genes sometimes..I appoligize for going on and on but just wanted to get it out....
I guess in a round about way I'm trying to say Anakin if your mother gave you what you needed and the most important thing is love and she had the same problems we have but still gave you unconditional love then you have to have total respect for her because that is what I try to do every day with melissa I try to make sure that she knows that she is loved and that I have some issues that I cannot help or change sometimes...I'm not sure I'm even making sense at this point....but i'm glad that your boyfriend understands that is huge and I hope that he will continue to help you ...as i have said sometimes just being with my husband in a stressful situtation I know that I can leave and I never have to..You are in my prayers and hope to talk to you soon...Hope that I didnt go on and on too much...mystic
Posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 19:43:07
In reply to :(, posted by Magdalena on May 29, 2004, at 23:09:50
Oh honey I am so sorry that you are feeling so low. Please don't be too upset with yourself. You did what you felt was right for you and that is a good thing. I know that you are just trying to get yourself better. Hang in there and ease up on yourself. Love Ya! Mrs. C
Posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 19:46:54
In reply to RE::: Mag » mystic, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 10:47:11
I think the time has come to be honest with the bf. If he's the one, he will be there for you. He may not be able to understand but hopefully he will try to. Whatever happens, you're loved by all of us unconditionally!! Mrs. C
Posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 19:52:41
In reply to RE::: Mag, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 13:26:58
My husband has had to deal with my obsessions over illness for over 15 years now. He does not totally understand how much I worry but he does think that I am crazy (in a good way). He laughs alot at me. It has gotten to the point where I lock myself in the bathroom to read my medical books. This morning I probed my neck feeling my swollen gland and worrying that I had found another. I did this while locked in the bathroom pretending to shower. Not good! Noone really knows the depth of my troubles but you guys. This board is the only place I can be me without the fear of being laughed at. These are serious problems for all of us and the world is not equipped to understand what we go through. Thank God we have found eachother. I do every night. Love to you all, Mrs. C
Posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 20:00:13
In reply to Re: increase, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 18:24:22
Hey Anakin, I am thinking of talking to my doc about another med also. Lexapro has really helped my anxiety but the OCD is killing me. I'm not sure if you've read my posts about finding a swollen gland in my neck. Well I did. My OCD causes me to obsess over these kinds of things and check myself over and over and over... You get the picture. I also will read medical books and search the web over and over... Anyway I haven't really had anything come up since starting Lex to obsess over so when this happened it was a true test for Lex. Well, I have been probing the neck over and over and checking the web, talking to anyone I can for their opinions etc. I went to the doc and she said it was not anything to worry about but here I am still driving myself nuts!!! I think that there must be something out there that can release me from this illness. I hope so anyway. Any thoughts anyone? Mrs. C
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 21:41:28
In reply to Re: increase, posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 20:00:13
Mrs C....The only thing that I can say is that you have to make sure the it is the lex that is making you still feel the intense feeling of obcesion..because I know that the paxil made me get over the anxiety per se..but I had no feelings at all and I had absolutely no sex drive and I gained 45lbs on it so it is all the willingness to get rid of the feelings and all the other things that go with it...I feel that you need to go through the therapy and try to get through what the reason is that makes you obsess about these things before you think about changing your meds..you told me about a wonderful day yesterday and i would give anything for that to happen to me...so I know how hard it is but please just try to put it into prospective as to what is real and what our minds give us to deal...I love you so much and just want you to be good all the time and if that means changing to another med then so be it but please just be sure...That is all I have to say...You are in my prayers and you are an angel to me...a true bonefid angel..god bless you and talk to you soon...your friend always Mystic
Posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 21:59:11
In reply to re; Mrs C, posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 21:41:28
Smooch!!! Love you. I know that you are right. I did have a great day yesterday without worry. Today was so different! I felt like a different person today. It really stinks and thanks for understanding. I do need to talk to my therapist badly and I plan to next week!!
I have been waiting to here from Mag to see how her night went with the bf. I think I will have to wait until tomorrow though. Very sleepy. Mrs. C
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 22:46:03
In reply to increase, posted by Magdalena on May 30, 2004, at 17:29:03
> i feel a little better because my best friend took me out today to buy new sunglasses and go for a long country drive in this beautiful weather and listening to loud music. no wonder shes my best friend, we are great together.
Thank God for friends who just "know" exactly what you need. =)
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 22:49:38
In reply to Re: increase, posted by Anakin on May 30, 2004, at 18:24:22
So glad you are feeling better. =)
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 22:55:56
In reply to RE:: anakin, posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 19:08:05
Mystic,
You are so sweet to be such a help to everyone when you are struggling yourself.
I know you are a good mother and grandmother! You are also a very good friend.
(((hug)))
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 22:57:23
In reply to Re: increase » Anakin, posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 22:49:38
I'm sorry sent sandy a post tonight telling her how i felt but i just felt that us in the posts feel like we need help and guidance and we come here to get it but she is always asking for help but never takes it ..I;'m sorry i feel like i come here and i feel like my dr does that i'm not trying to help myself because i always wont take my xanax or my increase but i feel like i have no chioces i'm totally afraid of the increase and im not trying to dick anyone around i have true feeling to this..I will help every single person on this post to the depth of my being and i truely want everyone to be ok i love you alll but i dont love myself the same way...I'm going to sign off for now and hope that everyoneis doig goo i luvey you all and will talk to you tomorrow..mystic
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 22:59:51
In reply to RE::: Mag, posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 19:52:41
> Noone really knows the depth of my troubles but you guys. This board is the only place I can be me without the fear of being laughed at. These are serious problems for all of us and the world is not equipped to understand what we go through. Thank God we have found eachother. I do every night.
Ditto, Mrs. C
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 23:01:29
In reply to Redirected Lexaproers, posted by jlynne on March 13, 2004, at 1:31:16
PS ...I will not post and waste anyones time again until i feel better and have something to contribute to the group..I truely unconditionally love every single one of you more than you know...Bridetobe..Good luck with your wedding I wish you nothing absolutely nothing more than happiness for you big day ditto to you anankin..I'm sorry I'm such a failure but anakin i wish you the same and let me know how everything goes..I love you all and will get in touch when I am worth anything to you...love best wishes to you all...luvya mystic
Posted by sexylexy on May 30, 2004, at 23:08:00
In reply to RE::: sent sandy an post toinght, posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 22:57:23
Glam-ma Mystic,
Are you ok? Whats going on??? Talk to me.
Love you,
Lexy
Posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 23:09:21
In reply to re:: ps, posted by mystic on May 30, 2004, at 23:01:29
Simus...i cant tell you what a help you are to all of us..You have such inspiration and we need you so much you try to help every single one of us and you do by your ways and your words;.>I just truely believe that you were sent to us as an angel and that is what you are to us...I thank god every single day for you..and you should feel the same way about yourself..I luvya simus and stay with us..talk to ya soon your friend always mystic/./.
Posted by Simus on May 30, 2004, at 23:09:40
In reply to Re: increase, posted by Mrs. C on May 30, 2004, at 20:00:13
I have been battling more OCD lately too, and memory issues. I sure wish I had an answer.
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