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Posted by pseudoname on May 10, 2006, at 17:49:10
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on May 9, 2006, at 23:55:58
> stuff that's making me anxious about the trip
> (so much I've half-seriously thought of canceling)Nooo!! I sure hope you don't cancel, 10der. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone, and not too many people are going.
My own biggest fear about the trip is the Canadian customs officers.
Posted by 10derHeart on May 10, 2006, at 19:59:44
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » 10derHeart, posted by pseudoname on May 10, 2006, at 17:49:10
>>
> My own biggest fear about the trip is the Canadian customs officers.Do you want to say why? Now I'm wondering if I ought to worry.....?
Posted by pseudoname on May 11, 2006, at 6:46:57
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » pseudoname, posted by 10derHeart on May 10, 2006, at 19:59:44
> Now I'm wondering if I ought to worry.....?
LOL. Oh no!
I've probably been thru Canadian customs 15 times in my life. The only time I've had a problem was one fall, back when we were about 22, my cousin & I had some trouble (having to wait in the office, etc) but got through. We decided they thought we were sneaking in to go to college. So I'm really, what's the word? overgeneralizing. Since 9-11 I've been afraid that it'll be much worse, but people who've been through say not.
Plus my passport expired a long time ago, so I'll have to use my birth certificate, which has a technical problem... maybe they won't notice.
It's better if you're flying.
Please don't catch *my* neurotic anxiety. ;-D
Posted by Poet on May 11, 2006, at 9:29:29
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » pseudoname, posted by 10derHeart on May 10, 2006, at 19:59:44
I haven't been through Canadian customs since before 9/11, but I've been through the Bahamas and Mexico with no problems. One of the Mexico trips my passport expired the day I came back into the U.S. and still had no problem with U.S. customs.
So I'm not afraid to come into Toronto. I'm nervous about presenting, but will take anti anxiety meds, a fist full if need be. I'm worried about getting lost as I can't read maps and won't ask for directions (I know self defeating behavior ;-) I'm not so worried about meeting other posters, which is a good sign. I think...
Poet
Posted by Deneb on May 11, 2006, at 12:44:25
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » 10derHeart, posted by Poet on May 11, 2006, at 9:29:29
> So I'm not afraid to come into Toronto. I'm nervous about presenting, but will take anti anxiety meds, a fist full if need be.
I don't have any anti-anxiety meds, or sleep meds. Maybe by Monday I will be free from anxiety from the severe insomnia that I will experience. ;-)
>I'm worried about getting lost as I can't read maps and won't ask for directions (I know self defeating behavior ;-)
I'm writing down how to get to certain places ahead of time so I won't get lost. Maybe you could do the same.
Deneb*
Posted by pseudoname on May 11, 2006, at 12:51:46
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » 10derHeart, posted by Poet on May 11, 2006, at 9:29:29
Poet--
Did you see my map to Bob's head? (It's on the Yahoo group photos section.)
;-)
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 11, 2006, at 15:31:21
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » 10derHeart, posted by Poet on May 11, 2006, at 9:29:29
> I haven't been through Canadian customs since before 9/11, but I've been through the Bahamas and Mexico with no problems. One of the Mexico trips my passport expired the day I came back into the U.S. and still had no problem with U.S. customs.
I went through more stringent security at LAX (Los Angeles), routine pre-boarding stuff, than I did at Canada Customs in Toronto, on my arrival there. (Recent trip data.) If you have no problem with routine domestic security, I can't foresee you having a problem at Customs, here in Canada. The Customs officers were far more interested in whether I'd visited a farm (disease transmission risk), than anything else. I was through Customs so fast, I still had to wait 20 minutes for my bag to come down the carousel.
The neat thing about flying out of Toronto, on your return home, is that US Customs is pre-cleared at Toronto International Airport (YYZ). Your flight will be treated as a domestic flight, wherever it terminates in the US.
Lar
Posted by 10derHeart on May 11, 2006, at 21:52:56
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on May 11, 2006, at 15:31:21
Thanks, Lar. That's good stuff to know, especially the going home part being pre-cleared. How very global and chummy of them, eh? ;-)
Details, details, I like details :-)
Posted by 10derHeart on May 11, 2006, at 22:01:54
In reply to Canadian customs » 10derHeart, posted by pseudoname on May 11, 2006, at 6:46:57
I'm sure waiting in the office was a bit disconcerting, to say the least, imagining whatever the problem might be....
Better Canada than a bunch of other countries I can think of, though.
I think, having traveled/lived abroad (Germany and Korea) while in the military, I'm now (as a civilian) just worried about acting or looking dumb or unprepared. I'd say I have a fair amount of common sense, but in the service, you are protected somewhat, as your travel in conjunction with official duties is treated differently, so I probably don't know exactly how it *really* is....
Don't worry, I don't need to catch or borrow your anxieties - I can conjur up plenty of my own new ones *any* time I want...apparently...
Posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:53:38
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » Poet, posted by Deneb on May 11, 2006, at 12:44:25
Hi Deneb,
I'm definitely going to write down/print out directions to places I want to go.
I'm starting to have the what have I gotten myself into- it's only one week away- anxiety. I'm trying to tell myself, it's good anxiety, for what that's worth.
Poet
Posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:56:09
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » Poet, posted by pseudoname on May 11, 2006, at 12:51:46
Hi Pseudoname,
I just checked out your map. I like it, maybe we can have Bob's head on the walls? Just follow the Bob heads to the conference room.
Poet
Posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:57:30
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on May 11, 2006, at 15:31:21
Hi Larry,
I didn't know that cusoms was pre-cleared for the return trip. That'll make it much easier.
Thanks for the info. and see you, gulp, next week.
Poet
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 15:40:52
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » Larry Hoover, posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:57:30
> Hi Larry,
>
> I didn't know that cusoms was pre-cleared for the return trip. That'll make it much easier.It is highly efficient, getting it out of the way. There are so many US destinations reached directly from Toronto, it saves a lot of hassle. You check in, get your boarding pass, and go straight on to US customs. Then you get into the departure lounge. I presume there is some sort of legal agreement, that you enter the US while still in Canada, or something. The departure lounge is US soil under some treaty or other? <shrug>
> Thanks for the info. and see you, gulp, next week.
>
> PoetI look forward to it.
Lar
Posted by fallsfall on May 14, 2006, at 9:38:15
In reply to Re: Canada Customs ? Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 15:40:52
Alright, Here is a (probably stupid) question:
I need to bring my driver's license and birth certificate. That I can do.
But my birth certificate has my maiden name on it. Do I need to bring my marriage certificate too, so they can see that Falls Maiden really is the same person as Falls Fall?
Posted by 10derHeart on May 14, 2006, at 12:00:58
In reply to Re: Canada Customs, posted by fallsfall on May 14, 2006, at 9:38:15
I would. Not speaking from customs experience per se, just from general, personal life experience and as a paralegal of 17+ years - on both sides of the *counter* (so to speak). Whether showing a birth certificate or examining one as part of a process to positively ID myself or someone else, I've always had to have the marriage license, too - in order to connect the birth name to the current name as the same person.
Another extra step women (ones that have ever married/changed their names, anyway) have to deal with. <<resigned sigh>>
Better safe than sorry, right? (It's such a pain, though, isn't it?!!)
Posted by gardenergirl on May 14, 2006, at 17:00:20
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » fallsfall, posted by 10derHeart on May 14, 2006, at 12:00:58
I was asked for my marriage certificate when I left Japan after being there for a two-week vacation. It was so odd, because my passport and DL had the same name, my married name on them. I just looked at him blankly and said, "What are you going to do, not let me leave?" "Do you think he's smuggling me out?" "Do you have some strange laws about non-married men and women travelling together?"
Odd.
But this is good info, since I'll be crossing the US/Canadian border for at least a few hours in a couple of weeks.
gg
Posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
In reply to Re: thanks! and education..., posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2005, at 18:12:33
And that we'll have reports back of your experiences. Enjoy Queen Victoria's birthday and I hope you get to watch some fireworks! (Spectacular along Lakeshore.)
Posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2006, at 0:51:57
In reply to I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
Posted by Deneb on May 19, 2006, at 5:15:03
In reply to I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
Thanks ClearSkies! Thanks GG!
I'm going to take the bus in less than an hour! I'll write all about it. I might even take notes along the way. LOL
:-)
Deneb*
Posted by pseudoname on May 19, 2006, at 8:47:25
In reply to Me too. And safe travel! :) (nm), posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2006, at 0:51:57
Posted by B2chica on May 19, 2006, at 9:06:28
In reply to Re: I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by Deneb on May 19, 2006, at 5:15:03
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 19, 2006, at 11:25:33
In reply to have a Great time....let us know when you're back! (nm), posted by B2chica on May 19, 2006, at 9:06:28
I'll miss y'all while I'm gone, but it'll be a "wish you were here" missing thing.
Off to Babblefest, in Toronto......
Hugs to all.
Lar
Posted by 10derHeart on May 19, 2006, at 23:56:48
In reply to Re: have a Great time....let us know when you're back!, posted by Larry Hoover on May 19, 2006, at 11:25:33
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
In reply to posted workshop info, posted by pseudoname on May 9, 2006, at 16:59:16
> I'm hoping we civilians can go to some of the other presentations. There's a forum on the latest Harry Potter book with SIX psychiatrists on the panel!
Did anyone go to anything else? I want to thank everyone who contributed. You all were really articulate and did a great job of conveying your experiences. And that was a nice discussion between you and the psychiatrists, too. Good work!
Bob
Posted by fallsfall on May 23, 2006, at 7:09:43
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
I went to a talk about apologies. The main thing I picked up is that it is important to make sure that it is clear exactly what is being apologized for. "I'm sorry if I did something wrong" doesn't cut it. Apologizing for squirting whipped cream in someone's face doesn't help if they are crying because they hit their head.
I also went to a 3 hour talk on Borderline Personality Disorder. Very interesting. The big name was John Gunderson. He changed his talk at the last minute so his slides were out of order, but when he was answering questions he was really on top of everything.
Mary Zanarini (from McLean Hospital) was the chair and showed 10 year followup data on borderlines. 80% had remitted. Very impressive. She postulates that other studies don't show as much improvement because they don't follow the patients for long enough. With Borderlines, it seems that there are a set of initial symptoms (i.e. self injury) that are dealt with first. These symptoms DO respond to treatment, but not as quickly as the psychiatric world would like (hence the typical bad prognosis). But there are also a set of longer term symptoms (i.e. emptiness) that persist for a long time and ARE responsive to therapy, but certainly not in the short term. Her talk was very hopeful for BPD patients.
There was discussion of studies comparing DBT with other treatments. In general I think that people think that DBT is a good treatment, but that it may not be the only one. They also seem to be trying to determine which parts of DBT are effective.
This group (self-selected for interest in BPD) acknowleged that BPD patients can be challenging, but seemed interested in finding ways to help. It was a facinating symposium.
Thanks, Dr. Bob, for giving us this opportunity to speak and learn. This meant a lot to me.
Falls.
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