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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by willful on June 16, 2013, at 2:42:06
In reply to Lou's reply- » Willful, posted by Lou Pilder on June 15, 2013, at 19:48:16
well lou I gave you my @@@ interpretation @@@. of dr bob s point. sometimes you have to read " between the lines.' Have you heard this phrase?
Not everything can be seen on the ' surface'-- in fact most of understanding what people mean is not reading the surface, the visible-- it comes from understanding the context, it needs to be inferred.
perhaps you need to consider this in your attempt to understand Bob' point in the passage you keep quoting. Maybe if you understood what he really meant-- by looking at the context--- ie the discussion on the board at the time--you would realize that you are missing his point.
by the way. you seem also not to understand that according to several people's memory of the rules, all your posts have been dealt with--- and you don't have any outstanding requests at all. What about that ? isn't it possible that your opinion is incorrect? and that you should not expect any further action on past requests, notifications.
I would only say to you : please do not reiterate points that you have already made as they are not responses to this post. please respond to the points I have made
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 6:36:54
In reply to For Lou: forcing, lackeys, what is 'outstanding'?, posted by 10derheart on June 13, 2013, at 21:19:27
> >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
>
> >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
>
> Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> =======================================
>
> (Merriam-Webster)
> Definition of LACKEY
> 1a : footman 2, servant
> b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> 2: a servile follower : toady
>
> Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
>
> Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
>
> Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
>
> I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
>
> Take care, Lou.
>
> 10,
Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 11:08:19
In reply to Lou's reply-potential harm » 10derheart, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 6:36:54
> > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> >
> > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> >
> > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> > =======================================
> >
> > (Merriam-Webster)
> > Definition of LACKEY
> > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > 2: a servile follower : toady
> >
> > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> >
> > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> >
> > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> >
> > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> >
> > Take care, Lou.
> >
> > 10,
> Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
> The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
> If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
>
> 10,
Now let's use this background on your request for me to explain my statement that I can not force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to respond and that I will have to wait for one greater than me to force them to do so.
There is potential harm that could come to people that are targets of hate in posts here that the hate is allowed to stand. The flame that Mr Hsiung says he will not wait to quench with him acting to sanction posts of that nature, since he states that one match could cause a forest fire, and if not, the fire is still burning.
Let us look at this post. Here not only is Judaism insulted, but Islam as well and other faiths and other peoples.
To understand what is at issue here, there are two lists. The second list describes those faiths that are the worst. And looking at #5 in the second list, you can see what I am referring to.
To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of the page and type in,[faith,378930]
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 12:11:52
In reply to continued- Lou's reply-potential harm-, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 11:08:19
> > > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> > >
> > > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> > >
> > > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> > > =======================================
> > >
> > > (Merriam-Webster)
> > > Definition of LACKEY
> > > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > > 2: a servile follower : toady
> > >
> > > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> > >
> > > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> > >
> > > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> > >
> > > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> > >
> > > Take care, Lou.
> > >
> > > 10,
> > Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
> > The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
> > If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> > It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
> >
> > 10,
> Now let's use this background on your request for me to explain my statement that I can not force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to respond and that I will have to wait for one greater than me to force them to do so.
> There is potential harm that could come to people that are targets of hate in posts here that the hate is allowed to stand. The flame that Mr Hsiung says he will not wait to quench with him acting to sanction posts of that nature, since he states that one match could cause a forest fire, and if not, the fire is still burning.
> Let us look at this post. Here not only is Judaism insulted, but Islam as well and other faiths and other peoples.
> To understand what is at issue here, there are two lists. The second list describes those faiths that are the worst. And looking at #5 in the second list, you can see what I am referring to.
> To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of the page and type in,[faith,378930]
>
> 10,
Let us look now at two other posts and the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung contained therin
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1044738.html
> http//www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 16, 2013, at 15:02:34
In reply to Minions, posted by sleepygirl2 on June 14, 2013, at 20:12:28
> I've always wanted to be a "minion". It sounds so devious.
> :-)
> "Dr Bobs minions"
> Awesome
>
> I'm so not a minion. I'm very boring actually, in some respects. I feel like I work a lot. I wonder what minions get as an average annual salary.There's room for another deputy administrator. It's OK to be boring. It's a positive to be hardworking:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#required
The benefits are intangible.
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 15:22:14
In reply to continued- Lou's reply-potential harm-, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 12:11:52
> > > > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> > > >
> > > > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> > > >
> > > > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> > > > =======================================
> > > >
> > > > (Merriam-Webster)
> > > > Definition of LACKEY
> > > > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > > > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > > > 2: a servile follower : toady
> > > >
> > > > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> > > >
> > > > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> > > >
> > > > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> > > >
> > > > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> > > >
> > > > Take care, Lou.
> > > >
> > > > 10,
> > > Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
> > > The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
> > > If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> > > It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
> > >
> > > 10,
> > Now let's use this background on your request for me to explain my statement that I can not force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to respond and that I will have to wait for one greater than me to force them to do so.
> > There is potential harm that could come to people that are targets of hate in posts here that the hate is allowed to stand. The flame that Mr Hsiung says he will not wait to quench with him acting to sanction posts of that nature, since he states that one match could cause a forest fire, and if not, the fire is still burning.
> > Let us look at this post. Here not only is Judaism insulted, but Islam as well and other faiths and other peoples.
> > To understand what is at issue here, there are two lists. The second list describes those faiths that are the worst. And looking at #5 in the second list, you can see what I am referring to.
> > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of the page and type in,[faith,378930]
> >
> > 10,
> Let us look now at two other posts and the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung contained therin
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1044738.html
> > http//www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
>
> correction:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 15:59:07
In reply to correction: continued- Lou's reply-potential harm-, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 15:22:14
> > > > > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> > > > >
> > > > > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> > > > >
> > > > > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> > > > > =======================================
> > > > >
> > > > > (Merriam-Webster)
> > > > > Definition of LACKEY
> > > > > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > > > > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > > > > 2: a servile follower : toady
> > > > >
> > > > > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> > > > >
> > > > > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take care, Lou.
> > > > >
> > > > > 10,
> > > > Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
> > > > The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
> > > > If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> > > > It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
> > > >
> > > > 10,
> > > Now let's use this background on your request for me to explain my statement that I can not force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to respond and that I will have to wait for one greater than me to force them to do so.
> > > There is potential harm that could come to people that are targets of hate in posts here that the hate is allowed to stand. The flame that Mr Hsiung says he will not wait to quench with him acting to sanction posts of that nature, since he states that one match could cause a forest fire, and if not, the fire is still burning.
> > > Let us look at this post. Here not only is Judaism insulted, but Islam as well and other faiths and other peoples.
> > > To understand what is at issue here, there are two lists. The second list describes those faiths that are the worst. And looking at #5 in the second list, you can see what I am referring to.
> > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of the page and type in,[faith,378930]
> > >
> > > 10,
> > Let us look now at two other posts and the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung contained therin
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1044738.html
> > > http//www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
> >
> > correction:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
>
> 10,
Here is a post that I would like for you to take in consideration in our dialog here that I am leading up to explain the {...someone greater than me to force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to post responses to my outstanding requests/notifications...}.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/307041.html
Posted by sleepygirl2 on June 16, 2013, at 17:53:24
In reply to Re: Minions, posted by Dr. Bob on June 16, 2013, at 15:02:34
Oh, I just want to freelance or something. I can't commit to anything. It just sounds like a great job, "minion". ;-)
Posted by gardenergirl on June 16, 2013, at 23:50:34
In reply to Re: Minions, posted by Dr. Bob on June 16, 2013, at 15:02:34
> The benefits are intangible.
>
> BobThat's certainly one way to describe them. smh
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2013, at 10:08:59
In reply to correction: continued- Lou's reply-potential harm-, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2013, at 15:22:14
> > > > > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> > > > >
> > > > > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> > > > >
> > > > > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
> > > > > =======================================
> > > > >
> > > > > (Merriam-Webster)
> > > > > Definition of LACKEY
> > > > > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > > > > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > > > > 2: a servile follower : toady
> > > > >
> > > > > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> > > > >
> > > > > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take care, Lou.
> > > > >
> > > > > 10,
> > > > Now let us look at some of your other questions to me here. one being,[...is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding"?...].
> > > > The TOS here saye that either the statement in the notification will be addressed in the thread by Mr Hsiung or his deputies, OR there will be direct contact from the administration via email or such. If neither of those are done by the administration, the notification from me is outstanding.
> > > > If there was a post by the administration in the thread where the statement is notified about, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. I need that opportunity to head off potential harm that I think could come to, in particular but not limited to, the Jews if the statement in the notification could arouse anti-Semitic feelings and is left to stand. There are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> > > > It is accepted by Mr Hsiung that statements that are not supportive could have the potential to cause harm when read by readers. The harm could come after the post is left unsanctioned in the future, for readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil and supportive. And if harm could come to the Jews by the fact that anti-Semitic statements are left to stand, and my notifications/requests are outstanding, then I think that it is my duty to continue to attempt here to have those statements addressed as per Mr Hsiung's own terms of service.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017615.html
> > > >
> > > > 10,
> > > Now let's use this background on your request for me to explain my statement that I can not force Mr Hsiung and his deputies to respond and that I will have to wait for one greater than me to force them to do so.
> > > There is potential harm that could come to people that are targets of hate in posts here that the hate is allowed to stand. The flame that Mr Hsiung says he will not wait to quench with him acting to sanction posts of that nature, since he states that one match could cause a forest fire, and if not, the fire is still burning.
> > > Let us look at this post. Here not only is Judaism insulted, but Islam as well and other faiths and other peoples.
> > > To understand what is at issue here, there are two lists. The second list describes those faiths that are the worst. And looking at #5 in the second list, you can see what I am referring to.
> > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of the page and type in,[faith,378930]
> > >
> > > 10,
> > Let us look now at two other posts and the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung contained therin
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1044738.html
> > > http//www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
> >
> > correction:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1002372.html
>
> 10,
Your concern to me as to what I mean concerning that the former deputies and Mr Hsiung have left my requests/notifications outstanding and what I mean by that one greater than me would have to arrive to force you and the others that have left my requests/notification unresponded to oould be explained by me here with the understanding of some past posts from here that I think are relevant to the discussion here.
Here is one such.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1021012.html
Posted by 10derheart on June 17, 2013, at 13:18:42
In reply to Re: Minions » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on June 16, 2013, at 23:50:34
Posted by gardenergirl on June 17, 2013, at 19:32:31
In reply to I had the exact same thought :-) (nm) » gardenergirl, posted by 10derheart on June 17, 2013, at 13:18:42
Posted by Toph on June 18, 2013, at 9:11:01
In reply to Lou's reply to Toph--may benefit, posted by Lou Pilder on June 15, 2013, at 20:29:23
And what kind of sub set of people could think that it maybe good to see that Mr Hsiung does not have to respond to my requests/notifications? Are you in that sub set of people here?
> > Lou
> >
> > Toph,
> You wrote,[...you and (Mr Hsiung ) may benefit from unresponded notifications...].
> Oh yeah? What benefit is there for hate to be allowed to stand here? What benefit is there to MrHsiung? There is no benefit to me, my friend. Is there benefit to you? If so, what is it?
> LouI'm not sure what you want me to say Lou, but there is one thing I would add, if I ask anything of anyone here, be it you, another poster, Bob or the community at large, I understand that while replies are nice, no one has any obligation whatsoever to respond to me.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 18, 2013, at 17:04:54
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Toph--may benefit » Lou Pilder, posted by Toph on June 18, 2013, at 9:11:01
> And what kind of sub set of people could think that it maybe good to see that Mr Hsiung does not have to respond to my requests/notifications? Are you in that sub set of people here?
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > Toph,
> > You wrote,[...you and (Mr Hsiung ) may benefit from unresponded notifications...].
> > Oh yeah? What benefit is there for hate to be allowed to stand here? What benefit is there to MrHsiung? There is no benefit to me, my friend. Is there benefit to you? If so, what is it?
> > Lou
>
> I'm not sure what you want me to say Lou, but there is one thing I would add, if I ask anything of anyone here, be it you, another poster, Bob or the community at large, I understand that while replies are nice, no one has any obligation whatsoever to respond to me.Toph,
You wrote the above. And you say that you are not sure what I want you to say.
You do not have to answer my request to you. But this is much more than that, for the issue at hand is that there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputies of which some have resigned.
Now you say that no one has to reply to you. But they can if they want to. And if a response to my requests/notifications to Mr Hsiung could save lives, head off anti-Semitic hatred, then I do not see the "good" of that the requests are outstanding. I do not see the support, if the request is outstanding. What I do see, is that many posts that constitute anti-Semitism are allowed to stand and readers could think that hatred toward the Jews posted here is supportive because Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence and that he does not wait to act for one match could start a forest fire. An if any one here thinks that members will benefit from seeing my outstanding notifications/requests, then they have the opportunity to post who are the subset of people that they think would benefit. Those that do not want to do that can reject this opportunity now.
Lou
Posted by Toph on June 19, 2013, at 8:25:58
In reply to Lou's reply-huarethebenefidderz » Toph, posted by Lou Pilder on June 18, 2013, at 17:04:54
You are certainly entitled to belive that psychotopic medication is more harmful than beneficial and that there is anti-semitism behind posts on Babble, I only wish that you would at least consider why there is such a strong reaction to your methods here.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 19, 2013, at 15:38:36
In reply to Re: » Lou Pilder, posted by Toph on June 19, 2013, at 8:25:58
> You are certainly entitled to belive that psychotopic medication is more harmful than beneficial and that there is anti-semitism behind posts on Babble, I only wish that you would at least consider why there is such a strong reaction to your methods here.
Toph,
You wrote,[...there is anti-Semitism behind posts on babble...there is such a strong reaction to your methods here...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. What are my methods?
B. Could a strong reaction be good?
C. What do you think could happen if the requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy and his past deputies were responded to? In particular but not limited to the ones that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings or insult Judaism or accuse Jews or degrade or dehumanizes Jews?
Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 19, 2013, at 23:33:37
In reply to Re: Minions » Dr. Bob, posted by sleepygirl2 on June 16, 2013, at 17:53:24
> Oh, I just want to freelance or something. I can't commit to anything. It just sounds like a great job, "minion". ;-)
Maybe other roles could qualify as minions, too. Do you want to create your own job? I'd like to encourage initiative. :-)
Bob
Posted by sleepygirl2 on June 20, 2013, at 22:02:49
In reply to Re: Minions, posted by Dr. Bob on June 19, 2013, at 23:33:37
I'm not sure, dr bob, but thanks. :-)
I think it's the old guitarist by picasso up there.
I've always liked this painting:
http://www.encore-editions.com/henry-ossawa-tanner-the-banjo-lesson
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2013, at 1:25:29
In reply to Re: Minions » Dr. Bob, posted by sleepygirl2 on June 20, 2013, at 22:02:49
> I think it's the old guitarist by picasso up there.
>
> I've always liked this painting:
>
> http://www.encore-editions.com/henry-ossawa-tanner-the-banjo-lessonYou sure know your Picasso! What do you like about The Banjo Lesson?
Bob
Posted by sleepygirl2 on June 25, 2013, at 21:51:37
In reply to Re: Minions » sleepygirl2, posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2013, at 1:25:29
The relationship, I guess, passing something along, patience, love, experience, guidance, imitation.
And music- it's a lot to really learn an instrument. I kinda think it's a gift.
Something like that ;-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 27, 2013, at 0:21:01
In reply to Re: Minions » Dr. Bob, posted by sleepygirl2 on June 25, 2013, at 21:51:37
> The relationship, I guess, passing something along, patience, love, experience, guidance, imitation.
Reminds me of here, sometimes. :-)
Bob
Posted by zazenducke on July 6, 2013, at 18:59:03
In reply to Re: Minions » sleepygirl2, posted by 10derheart on June 14, 2013, at 22:17:21
Gerard Manley Hopkins (184489). Poems. 1918.
12. The Windhover
To Christ our Lord
I CAUGHT this morning mornings minion, king-
dom of daylights dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing, 5
As a skates heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
Stirred for a bird,the achieve of; the mastery of the thing!
Brute beauty and valour and act, oh, air, pride, plume, here
Buckle! AND the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion 10
Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my chevalier!
No wonder of it: shéer plód makes plough down sillion
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 7, 2013, at 9:56:12
In reply to Re: Minions » 10derheart, posted by zazenducke on July 6, 2013, at 18:59:03
> Gerard Manley Hopkins (184489). Poems. 1918.
>
> 12. The Windhover
>
> I CAUGHT this morning mornings minion, king-
> dom of daylights dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
> Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
> High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
> In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
> As a skates heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
> Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
> Stirred for a bird, the achieve of; the mastery of the thing!
>
> Brute beauty and valour and act, oh, air, pride, plume, here
> Buckle! AND the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion
> Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my chevalier!
>
> No wonder of it: shéer plód makes plough down sillion
> Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
> Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.Thanks, I love the image of a chevalier showing valour in the face of big winds.
Bob
Posted by zazenducke on July 7, 2013, at 11:31:47
In reply to Re: chevaliers, posted by Dr. Bob on July 7, 2013, at 9:56:12
It loses the meaning without the dedication :)
What an odd thing for you to do! And what an odd interpretation of who the chevalier is! But I am glad you're heart was stirred! It's one of my favorite poems. It makes the word minion seem a desirable thing. I think it comes from the French for darling.
Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2013, at 17:02:23
In reply to Re: Minions » 10derheart, posted by zazenducke on July 6, 2013, at 18:59:03
thanks, I guess, but I can't make anything out of it. Someone would have to translate the English into English ;-)
Although once an English major, I was always rotten with poetry of almost any kind.
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