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Posted by ed_uk2010 on October 22, 2010, at 14:17:11
In reply to Reduced rate of posting, posted by SLS on October 13, 2010, at 12:21:18
> Posting activity seems to be reduced here recently. Does anyone else feel this way? What might be some reasons why this is occurring?
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> - ScottThe spam-like posts of a small number of posters (who shall remain nameless). Such posts may be very off-putting and essentially hijack threads.
Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2010, at 19:26:13
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting, posted by ed_uk2010 on October 22, 2010, at 14:17:11
>What might be some reasons why this is occurring?
The reduced rate of posting is a reason for the reduced rate of posting.
Seriously.
Posted by Free on October 22, 2010, at 23:42:21
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2010, at 19:26:13
> >What might be some reasons why this is occurring?
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> The reduced rate of posting is a reason for the reduced rate of posting.
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> Seriously.This is true. It's a vicious circle. I guess it's analogous to "the less money you have the less money you make."
To recap, the reasons for reduced rate of posting are:
1) Bunch of people left
2) New people aren't coming by so much
3) There are more alternatives on the internet
4) Babble doesn't get as many hits on google as it used to
5) Site is old fashioned
6) Unresolved strains from Facebook/Twitter issues
7) Blocks
8) Inactive community (new posters need an active community to come to)
9) Too many redirects (which kill threads)
10) Unlike Facebook, can't control who you can accept as friends
11) Can't delete own posts
12) Cliques
13) Fighting
14) Babble atmosphere
15) Liked the ones who were kicked out and are not so keen on those who are left
16) Oversensitive, trigger-happy users of the "report" button
17) Demeaning PBCs
18) People are treated like children
19) Outlandish reasons for blocks
20) Generalizations are not civil-- if they're negative
21) Too scared to post thoughts because one would surely get blocked
22) Seemingly unyielding taciturnity in the development and implementation of policy
23) Censorship, threats, bans, etc
24) Suppression of people's thoughts
25) Bob almost never acknowledges anyone's suggestions
26) Situation here is enough of an anomaly to cause repeated stress and disappointment in those who have looked to Bob for leadership
27) Spam-like posts of a small number of posters may be very off-putting and essentially hijack threads
28) Reduced rate of posting is a reason for the reduced rate of posting
29)Posts turn up in google searches
30)Posts can be used for research
31)Inconsistent application of the rules
32)Discomfort in witnessing what feels like a public beating with PBCs and Blocks. (Actually, I think this has gotten way better. The mincing and parsing of words under the microscope and out of context used to be much worse imo.)
33)Don't like getting blamed for someone's block (because I didn't ask them to apologize and rephrase.)Well, a boatload of reasons for the post-rate shrinkage. But will anything be done of about it?
I hope so. Maybe someday it will be a vibrant place like it used to be.Please feel free to correct any mistakes I might have made in recapping.
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 12:45:00
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting, posted by Free on October 22, 2010, at 23:42:21
Free good job and for those questioning validity of redirecting a thread to another board see mine from meds to social on guilt. Died. This is just the most recent example I see. Off to work now yikkee ah oh!!!!!! Phillipa
Posted by 10derHeart on October 23, 2010, at 15:39:53
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Free, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 12:45:00
> for those questioning validity of redirecting a thread to another board see mine from meds to social on guilt. Died.
Well, like Mark Twain said, "The report of its [my] death was an exaggeration," I think that could be the case here, too. How long do we wait before we pronounce a thread *dead" at Babble? Only a day? Hmmm...
You started the thread about 24 hours ago which means many posters (in the U.S/Canada, etc.) could have been asleep at least 1/3 of the time since then. Dinah answered you just last night, so maybe that will spark more replies. That seems to happen - people start posting after the first person posts.
I think the Social board is active enough to not lose hope after only scarcely a day :-)
Maybe a little patience and faith?
I myself will try to respond if I can think of something helpful to say.
I'm not sure there is much use in trying to convince Dr. Bob to not separate medication issues from other topics. He has not been interesed in doing so for a lot of years, it seems. I myself wonder if he stopped redirections would the meds board become a jumbled mass of topics, confusing and hard to sort through? I, for one, scan it but would have been *more* likely to see your post on Social. I think there may be a number of posters who really appreciate the separation of posts into categories.
Of course, you and everyone are entitled to your views. Just things to think about...
Posted by twinleaf on October 23, 2010, at 16:14:10
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by 10derHeart on October 23, 2010, at 15:39:53
You are right about the thread which Phillipa brought up. But overall, she is right that redirection does kill threads. I think that a certain amount of redirection is really needed to maximize the usefulness of the boards. But there have been times when it appears excessive to many of us - for example, redirecting posts from Medication to Neurotransmitters. At the moment, the amount of redirection seems appropriate to me, although, several months ago it did appear excessive, and did appear to result in the sudden ending of a lot of threads.
I have noticed that a high level of stressful communication here on Administration seems to correlate with an increased volume of redirection on the other boards.
Posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 16:41:21
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » 10derHeart, posted by twinleaf on October 23, 2010, at 16:14:10
Dr. Bob hasn't been around lately, so he hasn't been redirecting much. I doubt it's a change in philosophy.
Likely when he's around more, Admin heats up, and he also redirects more.
I've hardly seen him around here since his trip to Africa. Wasn't that in September?
Posted by Solstice on October 23, 2010, at 17:11:58
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting, posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 16:41:21
Well... he's been around enough to change the picture a bunch :) Maybe he took 1000's of pics and has been busy organizing them or something..
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 20:26:20
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Dinah, posted by Solstice on October 23, 2010, at 17:11:58
Excellent observation I noticed this also. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 20:28:10
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by 10derHeart on October 23, 2010, at 15:39:53
Personally since guilt is a feeling I'd have redirected to psychology. Guilt to me isn't social. Phillipa
Posted by 10derHeart on October 23, 2010, at 20:48:11
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » 10derHeart, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 20:28:10
Sure, if you were in therapy, had been in therapy or planning to seek therapy about the feeling/problem.
Or even if you wanted to ask about how people's Ts might handle this sort of a family question.
But the top of the board says this is the purpose:
"It focuses on psychology and psychotherapy: different theoretical orientations and techniques, the therapy process, transference and counter-transference, how to find a therapist, etc. Discussion here is not itself psychotherapy."
I try to re-read that when I wonder if a post is best suited there or on Socail.
Only matters what Dr. Bob thinks, anyway, I suppose :-)
Posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 20:55:28
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » 10derHeart, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 20:28:10
I answered on Social because that was where I felt comfortable answering. The forum had already been questioned, and I figured Dr. Bob would redirect it were he here.
But in future, if you prefer, I'll simply not respond at all, then it won't be an issue.
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 20:57:38
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by 10derHeart on October 23, 2010, at 20:48:11
Which brings up a topic I think I once asked if the med board is for treatment resistant folks why doesn't it say so? As many posters say it is. Also updating of the meds listed serzone is only availble generically now. Lots of work to update things around here of course only in my opinion and it's how I feel Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 21:01:39
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 20:55:28
Dinah seriously it doesn't matter to me as someone stated earlier Bob isn't around and the issue will be resolved by then. Off to research for my ebay item now. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 21:11:24
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 21:01:39
I'm glad it didn't bother you. It sounded as if it had.
I have had some experience in my life with the situation you described, and I hoped you'd find what I had to say helpful.
I think it's easier to make posts relevant to the topic on the Psychology Board, since no matter what is bothering you, it's natural to discuss it in terms of therapy. Is it possible to do the same on the Medication Board? That's another alternative to posting on the board Dr. Bob thinks a post belongs on, in addition to linking to a post as I described previously.
Posted by gardenergirl on October 23, 2010, at 21:12:01
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Dinah, posted by Solstice on October 23, 2010, at 17:11:58
> Well... he's been around enough to change the picture a bunch :) Maybe he took 1000's of pics and has been busy organizing them or something..
The pictures changed so frequently, I wondered if maybe he didn't set up some kind of random widget or something to select pics from a group of them.
(shrugs) just a thought.
gg
Posted by Deneb on October 23, 2010, at 22:16:51
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on October 23, 2010, at 21:11:24
That's what I often do Dinah. LOL
I'll post about something that really doesn't belong on meds, but then I add a medication question to it and then it can stay on meds LOL. I hope Dr. Bob doesn't mind. rofl
I'm devious. LOL
Posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 22:51:28
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting, posted by Phillipa on October 14, 2010, at 0:01:47
> Well from some of the e-mails I get from old posters they have voiced a lot of dissention on here with good threads turning into somewhat battles, too many redirects is a definite as the posts die thereafter. Quite a few that left are now on facebook as they feel they can control who they accept as friends and you can delete your own post if you write some and then have posters regret. It's kind of happier too lots of joking and positives. No blocks either. Phillipa
You mean people are using Facebook to discuss their meds? That doesn't sound right .... are you sure?
Posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 22:57:57
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Free, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2010, at 12:45:00
> Free good job and for those questioning validity of redirecting a thread to another board see mine from meds to social on guilt. Died. This is just the most recent example I see. Off to work now yikkee ah oh!!!!!! Phillipa
But Phillipa, you have to agree that your thread had nothing to do with meds. It belonged on another board. Personally, I would have placed it on the psychology board.
Posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 23:00:24
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Dinah, posted by Deneb on October 23, 2010, at 22:16:51
> That's what I often do Dinah. LOL
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> I'll post about something that really doesn't belong on meds, but then I add a medication question to it and then it can stay on meds LOL. I hope Dr. Bob doesn't mind. rofl
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> I'm devious. LOLWell now that we know ... your posts will probably get redirected now.
Posted by Deneb on October 23, 2010, at 23:07:54
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Deneb, posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 23:00:24
Oh I don't mind getting re-directed. :)
Posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 23:39:14
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » maxime, posted by Deneb on October 23, 2010, at 23:07:54
> Oh I don't mind getting re-directed. :)
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>But you just wrote that you add a med question at the of your post to make it "med" related. Why would you bother doing that if you don't mind being re-directed. What is the point of that deception?
I'm so confused. I am going to bed.
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2010, at 0:08:08
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Phillipa, posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 22:51:28
Only per private message. Not threads they are fun threads or learning threads have a lot of professional musicians also, and neighbors, family, only those taking meds from babble either e-mail me directly or from facebook. Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on October 24, 2010, at 2:04:52
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » Deneb, posted by maxime on October 23, 2010, at 23:39:14
I just like having the most people read my post. After that I don't care what happens to my post. I just like the initial attention. :)
Posted by Maxime on October 28, 2010, at 20:29:48
In reply to Re: Reduced rate of posting » maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2010, at 0:08:08
> Only per private message. Not threads they are fun threads or learning threads have a lot of professional musicians also, and neighbors, family, only those taking meds from babble either e-mail me directly or from facebook. Phillipa
Well then that doesn't really replace PB does it? You are only posing questions to a few, rather than a large group here at PB. So I don't think people left PB to go to Facebook. They have entirely different functions.
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