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Posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2009, at 21:39:22
In reply to Re: drama and suspected imposters » myco, posted by BayLeaf on April 13, 2009, at 21:03:13
There are certainly people I know who have received serious blocks for bugger all.
I contacted one person I hadn't known who had been blocked for a year for saying something about your former president.
He was not keen to talk. He just said that it had hurt a lot and he didn't feel like starting over with it all again.
Posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 21:39:44
In reply to Let's eat everyone » myco, posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2009, at 21:32:03
> "Oh my goodness" (let me finish the sentence) graceous me....i dear say ive lost me arm....tis in vernes mouth LOL
Posted by muffled on April 13, 2009, at 21:40:02
In reply to Re: drama and suspected imposters » Sigismund, posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 21:32:45
mellow out people of the world.
Its time for PF boys and girls, or whatever you are!
cuz WTF, ya never know if you alls gonna get eaten.
holy cow!
Peace to all, and to all a good night.
Damn, love Pink floyd man.
LOVE it.
Chillin man
just chillin.
hey
Posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 21:45:45
In reply to Re: Let's eat everyone, posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2009, at 21:35:37
Hes taken my arm Sigi.....everyone run, hes got the taste of blood in him now LOL
> Of course, it's evening in America, which might explain something.
Posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2009, at 21:45:59
In reply to Re: *Trigger* Jade's Final Post, posted by JadeKelly on April 13, 2009, at 21:38:33
>We need to {be treated with kind, kid gloves while we heal} Blocks and scoldings and harsh words do not facilitate this. We may be irritable as suffering people are. So what. Its expected. If anything maybe they should ask us if we'd like to chat. If I was a deputy thats what I would do. Hey Jade, having a bad day? Want to chat about it?
It has happened (to me), but I suspect it's not common.
I did appreciate it though.
Posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 21:48:45
In reply to Re: drama and suspected imposters » myco, posted by fayeroe on April 13, 2009, at 21:36:37
I agree totally with you, I misread the leaf...LOL sheesh now some of you people have me doin it lol time for me to step aside and let the people who are most hardcore into this take over.
I am outties. lol i am far to laidback for this kind of thing
have fun kids
m
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> Sometimes it helps to step back and try to look at what another poster might be experiencing.
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> I didn't see Bayleaf's post directed to you at all.
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> I thought she was merely making a statement about blocks being abusive. At least that is how I took it. If I am wrong, I'll stay out of it. :-)
Posted by muffled on April 13, 2009, at 21:56:34
In reply to Re: *Trigger* Jade's Final Post, posted by JadeKelly on April 13, 2009, at 21:38:33
Wow jade, no words, thats been rough and beyond.
I'm sorry.
Best to move on for sure.
Thanks for your kind words.
Best wishes to you.
I sure glad you got good family :-)
That makes me happy to think of.
I got good sibs too :-)
Take care,
Muffled
Posted by verne on April 13, 2009, at 22:38:58
In reply to Re: Let's eat everyone » Sigismund, posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 21:39:44
Myco,
Don't worry, I'm not into eating arms. Not really my taste. (I might eat a little lead once in awhile, the occasional 9millimeter clip, and stray bullets - but that's life in America - the land of the free-wheeling guns.) Sure I'm the living dead, a walking zombie, but that's beside the point.
I'm sorry you have so much hate for me and men in particular. Gender bias comes in many varities. Let's remember what happened to Matthew Shepard.
Verne
Posted by Deneb on April 13, 2009, at 22:41:09
In reply to Re: Imposter » Deneb, posted by muffled on April 13, 2009, at 13:41:06
Thanks Muffled! That made me feel better.
Yeah, you're right, Dr. Bob will be OK.
Take care of yourself Dr. Bob. ((((((((Dr. Bob)))))))
Posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 23:14:19
In reply to Re: Let's eat everyone » myco, posted by verne on April 13, 2009, at 22:38:58
again youve lost me. i dont hate you, i dont even know you. i dont HATE anyone...it takes energy to hate, you have to actually put forth effort to hate.
I dont have a problem with men lol yes i remember matthew shepard...me and him share more in common than what you realize.
so ease up on me...ok. i dont even know you how can you make such judgements lol
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> Don't worry, I'm not into eating arms. Not really my taste. (I might eat a little lead once in awhile, the occasional 9millimeter clip, and stray bullets - but that's life in America - the land of the free-wheeling guns.) Sure I'm the living dead, a walking zombie, but that's beside the point.
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> I'm sorry you have so much hate for me and men in particular. Gender bias comes in many varities. Let's remember what happened to Matthew Shepard.
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Posted by verne on April 13, 2009, at 23:41:25
In reply to Re: Let's eat everyone » verne, posted by myco on April 13, 2009, at 23:14:19
"lol yes i remember matthew shepard"
Wow, enough said - it's a "lol" thing?
Verne
Posted by myco on April 14, 2009, at 0:10:04
In reply to In memory of Matthew Shepard » myco, posted by verne on April 13, 2009, at 23:41:25
*ssh*l*! im gay. what the f*ck is your problem lol
> "lol yes i remember matthew shepard"
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> Wow, enough said - it's a "lol" thing?
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Posted by verne on April 14, 2009, at 0:19:10
In reply to Re: In memory of Matthew Shepard » verne, posted by myco on April 14, 2009, at 0:10:04
Why the hostility? And I still don't see how it's a "lol", or laughing, matter.
I've never given a rip about anyone's gender, species, sexual orientation, or even spieces.
lol,
verne
Posted by desolationrower on April 14, 2009, at 2:24:11
In reply to behind the times.?, posted by garnet71 on April 6, 2009, at 18:08:17
> Okay-one more thing Dr. Bob - if you believe in utilizing the internet to solve problems - you would know current societal trends that are escalating and increasingly eminant, brought upon by technological communications, and you could either harness the trends or fall behind:
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> Heirarchy of organizations:
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> - moving from top down to bottom up
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> Online collaboration - the future in problem solving:
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> - moving from CONsumers to PROsumers (that would be us members)
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> If you recognize that - i'd say you're pretty up on your research in using technology in the realm of problem solving/support groups. You don't want to be outdated, do you? If you don't recognize those changes that are being facilitated via communication technologies at this very moment, then I might just have to compare you with a recent Dean of a local university who I met not too long ago who did not even know what the term "social entrepreneurship" meant and had to be taught about it by some sophomore undegrad student (me). Nothing personal!
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> Hope that's a convincing argument Z:)
>in grade school i too read alvin toffler, on newt gingriches recommendation.
-d/r
Posted by Sigismund on April 14, 2009, at 3:02:39
In reply to Re: behind the times.?, posted by desolationrower on April 14, 2009, at 2:24:11
>i too read alvin toffler, on newt gingriches recommendation.
Geez, I'd heard of him, but now I certainly won't be reading.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 14, 2009, at 3:04:44
In reply to Re: *Trigger* Jade's Final Post, posted by JadeKelly on April 13, 2009, at 21:38:33
> Would someone block me forever, please.
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> VerneAre you sure you want to continue that?
I'm sorry if my comment hurt you. I was being goofy and didn't mean to be cruel. I still would appreciate an apology. Or, muffled mentioned a change in wording, would you be willing to rephrase your earlier post instead?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090302/msgs/889077.html
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> a lot of us are damaged, hurting, broken people when we get here. We feel extremely vulnerable and sensitive. We are looking for support, love and friendship, acceptance, at a time when we are at our worst. ... maybe they should ask us if we'd like to chat. If I was a deputy thats what I would do.
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> Before I was "enlightened" I sent mail to all three deputies in a misguided effort to be understood about why I was here.
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> Not one ever mentioned it to me privately or publicly. They don't talk to me. ... I don't know what I was looking for. Acceptance by the "family"?I'm sorry the role of the deputies wasn't more clear. Their main function in that role is to try to maintain an atmosphere of civility. Posters are the primary source of support and education. They're the "family" to look to for acceptance.
I'm also sorry I wasn't more responsive myself to your emails. My role is administrative, too. And I don't have as much time for it as I'd like.
> I enjoy most people very much, even with all the "stuff" that comes with them.
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> My irony is that after giving out my email, and having my Babblemail still open, I have made so many supportive new friends since this started. All people who just wanted to say I hear you. Maybe we can hear each other. People who, like me, don't feel safe sharing here. I will stay in touch with these caring people.
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> your alone and this is your lifeline. Your not yourself and become slightly addicted to being "connected".And you did find acceptance! Are you sure you don't want to stay in touch with them here?
> Sometimes, I too, am sensitive and say things I shouldn't to people that I care about. I am quick to react if I feel slighted. I am also quick to apoligize, and talk it over.
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> I told [the deputies] that while I may come off as sarcastic at times, its just pain, hurt, and misplaced anger. I said that I was sorry about that.
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> Thanks for the forum Dr.Bob. You at least owe me that. There will never be an apology unless it comes from you. I won't hold my breath.
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> ~JadeKellyI'm sorry I haven't been more supportive, loving, friendly, and accepting. Would you be willing to apologize to me, too? Or to rephrase your other post?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090302/msgs/888888.html
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OK, the ball's in their court. If anyone else wants to add another two cents, this might be a good time.
Bob
Posted by Deneb on April 14, 2009, at 8:38:32
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 14, 2009, at 3:04:44
OK, so far, I've just been mostly reading posts by skimming them, but I am curious now, what happened here?
What happened with JadeKelly and Verne? Can someone enlighten me?
I'd like to help out if I can.
Posted by muffled on April 14, 2009, at 9:47:22
In reply to Just curious, what happened here?, posted by Deneb on April 14, 2009, at 8:38:32
Near as I can figger Bob is going bonkers trying to get Verne and Jadekelly to apoplogize for some reason.
I think they felt they have?
And other than that, just noise I think.
'Cept Jade announced she's leaving,and why, so I don't s'pect Bob will be getting any more from her.
I think Bob is mebbe trying something new, but as usu hasn't told anyone...though its pretty obvo.
If it were me, I'd just frikken apoplogize to put Bob out of his obsessive misery, cuz who cares about whether you feel true about it really?
Apologize, do my piece for peace, whether I beleive in what I am saying or not.
Do no harm.
Mebbe do good, for the greater good?
My sib used to make me beg for stuff. I used to stubbornly refuse. Then I learned I could just put on a 'show', beg in the real world, but in my HEAD, I was NOT. Then LOL, I got what I wanted, with very little pain. I learned not to care. I learned that life is not fair. And just to roll with the punches, cuz punches allus come.
Fight important battles, but let the rest go.
That way I survive.
Right , wrong?
I don't care.
I just look for peace at the lowest cost. Apologizing seems a cheap deal. Words, who f'ing cares?
I don't give a rats *ss bout Bob, but I do care bout babblers and if my apologizing might cause Bob to do less blocking, then I would do it. For babblers. Not for me, not for Bob. LOL, but for 'The Herd'.
I dunno.
I not so smart.
You seem pretty strong Deneb. Thats good. You need to be to be here.
take care of yourself.
M
Posted by garnet71 on April 14, 2009, at 10:32:40
In reply to Re: *Trigger* Jade's Final Post, posted by JadeKelly on April 13, 2009, at 21:38:33
((((((Jade)))))))
That was a very heartfelt post-and you are very courageous for telling your story. I didn't know you have gone thru so much in such a short time, but I always knew you were a very strong person. I also think its great you have such a wonderful family (and don't take it for granted). I was also sorry to hear your pain from actions taken on this forum, and wish you the best of luck with your new websites.
- Garnet
Posted by garnet71 on April 14, 2009, at 10:43:17
In reply to Re: behind the times.?, posted by desolationrower on April 14, 2009, at 2:24:11
Hi d/r - and i see how YOUR Dr. Bob argument was sooo much more persuasive than mine. You know, there's been a lot out since toeffler--Wikinomics, for example. So, maybe YOU are behind the times too! Newt Gingrich? Why do people bring Newt Gingrich into unrelated topics? And not everyone meets Newt Ginrich in gradeshool. Hmm. Not only are you an antibrotelligentist, but now I see you are also a Newt-Gingrich-conversation-injector.
You just wait...I was at a specialty store the other day and saw they had UNCUT spaghetti - it was 2 1/2 FEET LONG!! I'd be more careful if I were you. ha.
Posted by Deneb on April 14, 2009, at 11:41:00
In reply to Shaming the Poster » JadeKelly, posted by verne on April 6, 2009, at 20:19:08
Hey Verne,
Sorry you feel that way about Dr. Bob. I think maybe you hurt Dr. Bob's feelings. I think Dr. Bob tries the best he can, he's not perfect. (Scary thought though LOL)
How would you feel if Dr. Bob wrote the same things about you?
I think it was very considerate of Dr. Bob to apologize.
I think it would be great if you could forgive Dr. Bob and try to rephrase your post to Dr. Bob.
Being blocked sucks. Are you sure you want to be blocked Verne? We like you here. :-)
It seems like Dr. Bob likes you here as well or else he wouldn't go to so much trouble to get us to help you not be blocked.
Posted by verne on April 14, 2009, at 12:43:44
In reply to Re: Shaming the Poster » verne, posted by Deneb on April 14, 2009, at 11:41:00
I don't remember posting last night. I hope I wasn't too mean. Two day bender's do that to me.
I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused. Any time I post on the administration board, I'm up to no good.
Please ignore my drunken posts. I'm usually trying to insert drama where there isn't any.
This is my last post until I've been sober a year. I recently had 6 months of sobriety (2 years is my modern record) Frankly, I'm too ashamed of myself to post anyway.
the worm
Posted by fayeroe on April 14, 2009, at 12:47:43
In reply to Shame and Self Loathing, posted by verne on April 14, 2009, at 12:43:44
> I don't remember posting last night. I hope I wasn't too mean. Two day bender's do that to me.
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Posted by Dr. Bob on April 14, 2009, at 15:14:29
In reply to Shame and Self Loathing, posted by verne on April 14, 2009, at 12:43:44
> I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused.
Thanks, I really do appreciate that.
Now that you mention it, I guess another possible reason for not apologizing (and getting blocked) could be self-loathing.
> This is my last post until I've been sober a year. I recently had 6 months of sobriety (2 years is my modern record) Frankly, I'm too ashamed of myself to post anyway.
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> the wormAbstain from drinking, not from posting! Maybe post about trying to stay sober? That would be getting back to the real goal of this community.
Worms don't admit their wrongs and made amends, thanks again,
Bob
Posted by Deneb on April 14, 2009, at 23:39:58
In reply to Shame and Self Loathing, posted by verne on April 14, 2009, at 12:43:44
Hey Verne,
Don't be so hard on yourself, I hope you're ok. Hugs if you want them.
You are awesome.
Deneb
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