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Posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:30:47
In reply to Re: blocked for 3 weeks » zazenducke, posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2007, at 2:49:15
I was raised in a culture where that was quite acceptable. Please consider adding this prohibition to the faqs.
Did you feel put down? If so I am sincerely sorry. That was certainly not my intention.
Your friend
zazenducke
> > Bob do you have any hobbies besides Babble?
>
> Please don't post anything that could lead others (including me) to feel put down.
>
> But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
>
> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
>
> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> PS: According to the new formula:
>
> duration of previous block: 1 week
> period of time since previous block: 1 week
> severity: 2 (default) + 1 (uncivil toward particular individual or group) = 3
> block length = 2.93 rounded = 3 weeks
Posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 14:21:33
In reply to Why is asking about hobbies uncivil? » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:30:47
Yeah I kinda thought it was at least debatable to take that way also, since no one has ever said that Bob spends *too* much or clearly all of his time at Babble!! ;-)
> I was raised in a culture where that was quite acceptable. Please consider adding this prohibition to the faqs.
>
> Did you feel put down? If so I am sincerely sorry. That was certainly not my intention.
>
> Your friend
>
> zazenducke
>
>
> > > Bob do you have any hobbies besides Babble?
> >
> > Please don't post anything that could lead others (including me) to feel put down.
> >
> > But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
> >
> > If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
> >
> > Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > PS: According to the new formula:
> >
> > duration of previous block: 1 week
> > period of time since previous block: 1 week
> > severity: 2 (default) + 1 (uncivil toward particular individual or group) = 3
> > block length = 2.93 rounded = 3 weeks
>
>
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 14:29:26
In reply to Why is asking about hobbies uncivil? » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:30:47
What sort of therapy would help to understand Babble rules. Or would therapy help me realize I am not wanted here?
Seriously did any of you feel supported that Bob blocked me for 3 weeks for this-asking if he had any hobbies besides Babble? At the same time an ad hominem attack on another poster is merely PBCed. I know some of you say you feel "safe" because of Bob's rules. I feel creeped out myself.** Zaz, I'm sorry, I dunno whats going on. You seem to be getting caught in the fence...
Babble 'etiquette' is VERY confusing...:-(
And NO I do not understand why stuff goes the way it goes.
And I would say e-mail Bob, but from what I have heard from others, his replies can be less than satisfactory..:-(
I guess it just comes down to humanity, and huamn failings, and maybe thats where Bob got caughtup in formulas and trying to be overly rigid and and blocking too much...
I am not so much creeped out as saddened and confused.Is it more psychologically healthy just to ignore his behaviour towards me and others? I find it hard to do that. I know many of you are psychologically sophisticated and I would like to know how you deal with this sort of thing rather than rehash the inequities IF ANY (babble disclaimer) which has been done for years on admin.
**I have felt unjustly blocked (eg for bypassing asterisk and writing f*rt?!?. But, now I seem to have this golden cloud of protection around me, for what reason I do not know???? Or mebbe I have just finally figgered out the rules? I don't know.
So I agree, there ARE inequities in MY HO. But that is my personal feeling. Others may not feel the same.
But I also feel that admin here is trying to do the best they can...Would you keep taking part in something which you believe is not fair to some participants? I do but I wonder if it is healthy or ethical to do that?
**Sigh....I been down this road a time or two...and I have tried PC, but I like it here better. NOT necc cuz of admin, but the style of posting, and the people here are wonderful. So I come back.
If I keeped getting bashed, I guess I would sadly walk away :-( I would hate to see you walk away :-( But I understand if you do.
I wish I could change things, but change is hard here.
I hope your doing OK.
I hope you come back.
I'm sorry.
MuffledI would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 14:35:35
In reply to Why is asking about hobbies uncivil? » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:30:47
Doesn't Zaz get a please rephrase first? before another block?
I wonder how we can help Zaz better understand whats happening so she don't have to be afraid and confused and hurt?
Could it be her 'style' of writing thats causing probs?
I dunno.
Could we unblock Zaz and a least let her try at a rephrase? What she chooses to do w/it is her choice...
I know you guys are doing your best.
I'm not dissing you.
Just trying to find some middle ground or something?
Trying to understand.
Trying to communicate and help make this place as good as it can be.
Trying to make it less scarey.
Dunno dunno dunno.
Muffled
Posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 14:50:02
In reply to Re: Why is asking about hobbies uncivil?, posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 14:29:26
> What sort of therapy would help to understand Babble rules. Or would therapy help me realize I am not wanted here?
> Seriously did any of you feel supported that Bob blocked me for 3 weeks for this-asking if he had any hobbies besides Babble? At the same time an ad hominem attack on another poster is merely PBCed. I know some of you say you feel "safe" because of Bob's rules. I feel creeped out myself.
>
> ** Zaz, I'm sorry, I dunno whats going on. You seem to be getting caught in the fence...I didn't see these words of Z's, maybe they are on the original thread. In my post above I only mentioned lightly that it might be a reach to interpret that anyone would think or imply Bob spends too much time here, but now would like to add that no, doubt anyone did feel more supported with this block in place, which is of course the whole point.
Wishing you resolution Z... I think it's clear to Bob and everyone that a lot of ppl really enjoy your unique contributions, and you lend an appreciated levity at times too. No one would want you to be one of those who just give up.
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 18:08:32
In reply to Re: Why is asking about hobbies uncivil?, posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 14:29:26
sigh.
Complex and confusing, and my brain is in low gear.
Sadly, the hand that tries to tame, sometimes gets bit.
Oh well.
Maybe i won't get bit this time....
Anyhow, I think I quoted that which i shouldn't have. I was just automatically trying to reply to a post and thot nothing of it.
So I am sorry if I have caused any distress by doing so.
Babble is very confusing.
Or mebbe its just my mind.
Sometimes it works, sometimes I am in places where it don't work much at all.
Sometimes I live in the tortured Land of Emotion, an evil place of pain.
Sigh.
Sigh.
I wish I was perfect.
Happy.
Content.
Safe...
M
Posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 19:59:04
In reply to oops, sorry I appear to have done wrong..., posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 18:08:32
It must be somewhere else where I didn't see it, I assumed on the original psych thread but no matter. The only stuff we're not supposed to repost as far as I know is uncivil stuff or posts we're complaining about.
I had just wanted to say a little more myself after reading it, since in my first post here I was kinda flippant and winky and maybe it seemed like I wasn't taking it seriously that this situation may have really hurt Z.
So no you did nothing wrong. You're a good, compassionate egg, always. :-)
> sigh.
> Complex and confusing, and my brain is in low gear.
> Sadly, the hand that tries to tame, sometimes gets bit.
> Oh well.
> Maybe i won't get bit this time....
> Anyhow, I think I quoted that which i shouldn't have. I was just automatically trying to reply to a post and thot nothing of it.
> So I am sorry if I have caused any distress by doing so.
> Babble is very confusing.
> Or mebbe its just my mind.
> Sometimes it works, sometimes I am in places where it don't work much at all.
> Sometimes I live in the tortured Land of Emotion, an evil place of pain.
> Sigh.
> Sigh.
> I wish I was perfect.
> Happy.
> Content.
> Safe...
> M
Posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 20:04:52
In reply to Re: goodness gracious no! » muffled, posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 19:59:04
> It must be somewhere else where I didn't see it, I assumed on the original psych thread but no matter.
Note to self: this thread did not originate on psych!
Immaterial I reckon but couldn't help myself, had to clarify. :-D
Posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 20:20:24
In reply to Re: goodness gracious no! » confuzyq, posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 20:04:52
...drat, ok now I see what you meant Muffled. I hadn't known what happened on that thread today or read everything. When I saw your "oops I did wrong" post after my "I didn't see that part" post, I thought you thought I was complaining about you carrying it over or something.
Note to self: get off Admin! ;-)
Posted by 10derheart on August 20, 2007, at 20:37:07
In reply to oops, sorry I appear to have done wrong..., posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 18:08:32
...wrong is harsh. I don't think in those terms about things like forgetting/not knowing one part of a guideline on Babble. Not bad, not wrong, not messed up, not anything like that.
> Sadly, the hand that tries to tame, sometimes gets bit.
I'm sorry if I contributed to you feeling bitten :-( Actually, I was going for more of a calm, *general* (it's not just you, and NOT just on this board) comment. Little nudge that doesn't hurt at all?
>>I was just automatically trying to reply to a post and thot nothing of it.
I know, that's why I decided to post - the little box makes it soooo easy to do.
> So I am sorry if I have caused any distress by doing so.
Probably not, although of course I don't know for sure. I think it's in the FAQ more to cover cases of quoting, say - politicians, other public figures, books, song lyrics, websites - lists could go on forever - with uncivil content. Dr. Bob has decided that it's not automatically civil here to put something in a post just because it didn't come from your own brain?
And to be consistent, Dr. Bob extends it to repeating anything previously posted that was deemed uncivil. I think that it's really been most helpful when it covers some of the more.....hmmm...I can't think of a proper word ..well, I'll say posts with uncivil words that, in the past have been *extremely* upsetting to posters to view over and over again as people discuss them. So, it's a guideline to capture the most cases, from mild to severe?
> Babble is very confusing.Yes, sometimes it can be.
> Or mebbe its just my mind.
> Sometimes it works, sometimes I am in places where it don't work much at all.Me, too.
> Sometimes I live in the tortured Land of Emotion, an evil place of pain.
:-( yuk. I don't like thinking of you there.
> I wish I was perfect.
Are you kidding? Then how could the rest of us hang out with you?! no perfection - please!
> Happy.
> Content.
> Safe...Yes. Yes. Yes.
I just hope maybe eventually, more people can see some of the upside to following civility rules....their intent, as the deputies use them, anyway.
Because truly, we are so much about, "oops, there's a banana peel you've dropped over there, and I wanted to warn you about it, and ask you to please pick it up so others won't slip and fall (and maybe be scared and maybe get hurt.)" We are so *not* about, "Ah-ha! you messed up, you forgot the rules, you're wrong and bad and I'm in charge and here to tell you so (and maybe scare and maybe hurt you.)"
But with complex emotions, and the issues we are all dealing with here, it doesn't always work out that way, I know. But, we keep trying.
Muffled, you're doing great, IMHO. I missed you a lot when you were gone recently. I see your efforts toward peacefulness, understanding and caring toward the Babble community in your posts, believe me. Don't let admin stuff here make anything worse - you know this too, shall pass.
-- 10
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 20:52:29
In reply to maybe it's 'just' a word, but » muffled, posted by 10derheart on August 20, 2007, at 20:37:07
10der my sweet b*boo!!!
Your post was SO lovely.
You did not bite me at all. I thank you for your warning so I could say sorry, so *BOB* wouldn't bite me! LOL. From what I understand the deputies rarely bite!But Bob does sometimes, least he's bit me before...(sorry KK-fit of passion y'know...!)
No, I just got off on a tangent, its me , most definately not you at all. One of my bugaboos is all.
And I thank you for your compliments.
I AM doing better at recognizing when I am 'going off' as it were, and eventually reighning myself back in and/or going away a bit.>I just hope maybe eventually, more people can see some of the upside to following civility rules....their intent, as the deputies use them, anyway.
**well fwiw I DO see it....as the *deputies* use them...(sorry Bob, apparently my love for you has waned in your absence...)
>Because truly, we are so much about, "oops, there's a banana peel you've dropped over there, and I wanted to warn you about it, and ask you to please pick it up so others won't slip and fall (and maybe be scared and maybe get hurt.)" We are so *not* about, "Ah-ha! you messed up, you forgot the rules, you're wrong and bad and I'm in charge and here to tell you so (and maybe scare and maybe hurt you.)"
**I agree, you guys do a good (but hard) job.
I would almost attempt(LOL and proly fail, too rowdy!!!) at becomming a deputy cuz I DO care, but its too hard a job for me.>But with complex emotions, and the issues we are all dealing with here, it doesn't always work out that way, I know. But, we keep trying.
**And I thank yous for that.
Take good care,
muffled
Posted by 10derheart on August 20, 2007, at 21:00:14
In reply to Re: maybe it's 'just' a word, but » 10derheart, posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 20:52:29
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 21:55:59
In reply to Re: oops, she finally gets it..., posted by confuzyq on August 20, 2007, at 20:20:24
LOL! You remind me of me! ;-)
Thanks for caring :-)
M
Posted by confuzyq on August 21, 2007, at 6:06:28
In reply to Re: oops, she finally gets it... » confuzyq, posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 21:55:59
Posted by meeple on August 23, 2007, at 9:00:49
In reply to Therapy to understand Babble ? SIGH, posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 11:39:15
((((Zazenduckie)))) I don't think that therapy will help you understand Babble. I'm not sure what is required for one who gets blocked (such as yourself) to find peace here at Babble. I think part of it is about having this ability to let things kind of roll off your back (ie., the capacity to be more resilient and not let it get to you). I'm not sure how many people here have that, however, and for those who get blocked when they really are trying to be careful, I'm not sure that that is a feasible expectation.
So... How else to find peace? Dissociation is one option. I think that is how people who stay here manage to find peace. They protest briefly then need to get back to the regularly scheduled program and thus they repress the unfair verdicts and exhorbatent blockings in order for them to live with themselves and continue to participate here.
How else to find peace? Foster IRL relationships and activities. Basically... Move on. It is sad, yeah. But maybe... This is Bob's attempt to help combat internet addiction. Bob's attempt to ensure we don't become too attached to him. Perhaps...
Hang in there.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on August 23, 2007, at 9:04:28
In reply to Therapy to understand Babble?, posted by meeple on August 23, 2007, at 9:00:49
Please don't post when you're blocked.
I've blocked this screen name and asked Dr. Bob to set the length of any additional block.
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, posting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by karen_kay on August 23, 2007, at 12:53:36
In reply to Therapy to understand Babble?, posted by meeple on August 23, 2007, at 9:00:49
there's an error as to your original post.
so, i guess i can't welcome you :)
phoohey!
'no welcome for you!'
so sorry meeple. maybe this isn't your first post? maybe i've taken too many klonopin (i am acting particularly nice to certain posters, you know! and i'm not having self induced heart attacks whenever cars drive by, so i think the meds ahve seomthign to do with it...)
what was i saying again?
hopefully, when you are unblocked, you'll come back, change your name, and i'll welcome you?
take care and i appreciate your contributions to b-land. you are heard and understood. we're not kicking you from our 'hood!
and if you have any extra meds, coudl you throw a few my way/ i'll stand outside with my arms outstreched, waiting......
kk
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2007, at 19:15:24
In reply to Bob, deputies?, posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 14:35:35
> I wonder how we can help Zaz better understand whats happening so she don't have to be afraid and confused and hurt?
It would be great to help posters better understand what's happening to them (and keep it from happening to them again). One way to do that might be to offer to be their "civility buddy" and preview their posts before they submit them?
Bob
Posted by sam123 on August 23, 2007, at 22:23:19
In reply to Why is asking about hobbies uncivil? » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:30:47
In some contexts asking if someone has any hobbies
can be a veiled put down. Asking someone who really has nothing going on in their life would only draw attention to the obvious and no one likes to be reminded they are a loser. "Don't you have any hobbies ?" can be a veiled way of saying "don't you have anything better to do ?"I have not read the post that caused this PBC.
I would say if you honestly want to know about someones hobbies asking that would be civil.
It is possible to use any phrase in ways that have different meanings. Most of this is done by tone of voice, facial expression, or other non-verbal
communication. All of which is lost in a medium such as an internet board or an e-mail.
Posted by muffled on August 23, 2007, at 23:38:24
In reply to Re: helping posters better understand, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2007, at 19:15:24
> > I wonder how we can help Zaz better understand whats happening so she don't have to be afraid and confused and hurt?
>
> It would be great to help posters better understand what's happening to them (and keep it from happening to them again). One way to do that might be to offer to be their "civility buddy" and preview their posts before they submit them?
>
> Bob**Well at the risk of being repititious...I feel nervous personally about the prospect of being responsible for anothers posts. What if they got blocked???????????
Or a PBC and then they get mad at me?
If possible, I would like if YOU could explain, when asked, for a greater explanation. Mebbe you could keep track of each time you do that and have a link to those...
I know you are busy, but you are the ultimate authority here, and you have done so occasionally in the past.
Just sometimes I don't understand....
And if its hurtful and frightening to me, then its proly to others...
Just wish babble could be more predictable, understandable.
And the old long blocks?
What of them?
Are you going to reconsider?
Cuz I think they just hurt is all, I don't think there's much eaducation going on after awhile.
Just hurt.
Babbles not supposed to be bout hurt is it?
I really wish you would give me a complete answer to my questions, and I'll try to shut up and accept what you say.
Muffled
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 25, 2007, at 14:39:25
In reply to Re: helping posters better understand » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on August 23, 2007, at 23:38:24
> > > I wonder how we can help Zaz better understand whats happening so she don't have to be afraid and confused and hurt?
> >
> > It would be great to help posters better understand what's happening to them (and keep it from happening to them again). One way to do that might be to offer to be their "civility buddy" and preview their posts before they submit them?
> >
> > Bob
>
> **Well at the risk of being repititious...I feel nervous personally about the prospect of being responsible for anothers posts. What if they got blocked???????????
> Or a PBC and then they get mad at me?
> If possible, I would like if YOU could explain, when asked, for a greater explanation. Mebbe you could keep track of each time you do that and have a link to those...
> I know you are busy, but you are the ultimate authority here, and you have done so occasionally in the past.
> Just sometimes I don't understand....
> And if its hurtful and frightening to me, then its proly to others...
> Just wish babble could be more predictable, understandable.
> And the old long blocks?
> What of them?
> Are you going to reconsider?
> Cuz I think they just hurt is all, I don't think there's much eaducation going on after awhile.
> Just hurt.
> Babbles not supposed to be bout hurt is it?
> I really wish you would give me a complete answer to my questions, and I'll try to shut up and accept what you say.
> MuffledFriends,
It is written here,[...I feel nervous..of being responsible..what if...?...I would like if YOU could explain, when asked,..authority here...hurtful..to others...wish..could..don't think there's much...just..not supposed to be..?...I really wish you...and I'll try...what you say...].
The response above was to a statement by Dr. Hsiung,[...offer to their "civility buddy"..before they submit...].
I am unsure as to the new rules that were made here when I rejoined the forum as to if I could post particular links and such. If you would like to email me concerning the poster's concern here, which IMO could involve the meaning of {support} and {education},I could offer you a historical analysis to the concern and Dr. Hsiung's statement as to what historically it could mean so that you could have what may be unbeknownst to you available in order for you to make your own determination as to what the aspects of this topic could involve and how it could or could not effect your mental health.
I am asking that you include a statement that you are at least the age of 21 if you are going to email me concerning this topic.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Posted by muffled on August 25, 2007, at 23:09:10
In reply to Lou's response to mufflled's post-inftdsts, posted by Lou Pilder on August 25, 2007, at 14:39:25
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 6, 2007, at 2:03:31
In reply to Re: helping posters better understand » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on August 23, 2007, at 23:38:24
> > It would be great to help posters better understand what's happening to them (and keep it from happening to them again). One way to do that might be to offer to be their "civility buddy" and preview their posts before they submit them?
>
> I feel nervous personally about the prospect of being responsible for anothers posts. What if they got blocked???????????
> Or a PBC and then they get mad at me?That's a good question. What I meant above was offering feedback that they would be free to accept or not. If they did end up getting a PBC, or being blocked, I'd hope they'd remember that you tried to help and did your best.
(That's different than having a "mandatory" civility buddy, which has been discussed before:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20051205/msgs/597469.html
which really would be taking responsibility for another poster's posts.)
> If possible, I would like if YOU could explain, when asked, for a greater explanation.
I thought Sam explained this one well...
> And the old long blocks?
> What of them?
> Are you going to reconsider?
> Cuz I think they just hurt is all, I don't think there's much eaducation going on after awhile.
> Just hurt.
> Babbles not supposed to be bout hurt is it?I'm open to considering alternatives to long blocks. The goal of Babble isn't hurt, but unfortunately some hurt I think is inevitable. But let's try to minimize it as much as possible.
Bob
Posted by zenhussy on September 6, 2007, at 4:05:06
In reply to Re: helping posters better understand, posted by Dr. Bob on September 6, 2007, at 2:03:31
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2007, at 10:27:44
In reply to Re: helping posters better understand, posted by Dr. Bob on September 6, 2007, at 2:03:31
> > > It would be great to help posters better understand what's happening to them (and keep it from happening to them again). One way to do that might be to offer to be their "civility buddy" and preview their posts before they submit them?
> >
> > I feel nervous personally about the prospect of being responsible for anothers posts. What if they got blocked???????????
> > Or a PBC and then they get mad at me?
>
> That's a good question. What I meant above was offering feedback that they would be free to accept or not. If they did end up getting a PBC, or being blocked, I'd hope they'd remember that you tried to help and did your best.
>
> (That's different than having a "mandatory" civility buddy, which has been discussed before:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20051205/msgs/597469.html
>
> which really would be taking responsibility for another poster's posts.)
>
> > If possible, I would like if YOU could explain, when asked, for a greater explanation.
>
> I thought Sam explained this one well...
>
> > And the old long blocks?
> > What of them?
> > Are you going to reconsider?
> > Cuz I think they just hurt is all, I don't think there's much eaducation going on after awhile.
> > Just hurt.
> > Babbles not supposed to be bout hurt is it?
>
> I'm open to considering alternatives to long blocks. The goal of Babble isn't hurt, but unfortunately some hurt I think is inevitable. But let's try to minimize it as much as possible.
>
> BobDr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...hurt I think is inevitable.... let's try to minimize {it},(hurt), as much as possible...].
The post that you replied to writes in part,[...I would like if YOU could explain, when asked, for greater explanation...] (the (YOU) in caps was as written by the member).
You cited a statement by a member,(Sam), as explaining that (well). Sam wrote,
[...are you going to reconsider...]and,
[...they ..hurt us all...]and,
[...I don't think there is much education...]and,
[...just hurt...]and,
[...babble about {hurt}?...]
I am unsure as to what the the grammatical structure could mean of your reply to the statement that the member had to you,[...I would like if (YOU) could explain, when asked,for greater explanation...]. My next post will go into the details and questions that could arrise from your reply here to the member.
If anyone is considering posting a response in this thread, I would like for you to email me if you like to see the historical parallels that could be involved in this discussion and perhaps by knowing what I could email to you that other psychiatrists/psychologists write that may be unbeknownst to you, that could help you IMO to make your own determination as to some aspects of this discussion that could or could could not be relevant to mental health concepts.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
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