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Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:57:34
In reply to Geez you make me laugh! (nm) » crushedout, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 16:56:34
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 17:02:49
In reply to :-) (nm) » gabbii, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:57:34
Those who enjoy dragging people behind trucks?
My head hurts
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:04:00
In reply to Please respect the feelings of others, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 17:02:49
it's inane, right? ((((crazy teresa))))
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:07:31
In reply to Re: Please respect the feelings of others » gabbii, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:04:00
I'm sure Dr. Bob has a reason, even if we wouldn't come to the same conclusion. It's probably best to hear it first?
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:10:58
In reply to Re: Please respect the feelings of others, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:07:31
But it just doesn't make any sense. And it's aggravating. (I'm misusing the word "aggravating" but I can't find a better one.)
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:11:17
In reply to Re: Please respect the feelings of others, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:07:31
It's not like there won't be plenty of time to berate him after we know his thinking.
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:13:03
In reply to Sorry, Dinah. I guess you're right., posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:10:58
I wasn't actually fussing.
I just like to see good indignation well used.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:14:24
In reply to I mean, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 17:11:17
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 17:53:51
In reply to :-) you made me chuckle lovingly. (nm) » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 17:14:24
ya me too..
Posted by sleepygirl on July 28, 2005, at 18:52:50
In reply to WHAT EXACTLY DID CRAZY T DO DR. BOB???, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 8:34:00
I concur
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 20:27:34
DOES ANY1 ELSE FEEL THAT THIS BLOCK WAS UNJUSTIFIED??
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 20:27:34
In reply to CRAZY T, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 8:36:37
Posted by sleepygirl on July 28, 2005, at 21:36:05
In reply to CRAZY T, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 8:36:37
yes
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 22:42:14
In reply to Re: :-) you made me chuckle lovingly., posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 17:53:51
although i'm not fully aware of EVERYTHING that went on, what i read B4 it disappeared????(why is that)-(or am i just a goof :-))?...is this----basically crazy t responded in a way towards another babbler that dr.bob found "uncivil" and she was asked 2 rephrase but didn't b/c, and i'm just assuming, that she held to her belief of the post.SKIP,HOP,BIGGG JUMP-then(and i'm not sure of the order) she saw an email a co-worker or friend? of her hubby's sent that (assuming again)showed an American soldier being drug behind a truck and as it cont. appeared to be a video of 1 of the US soldiers being beheaded??(not 100% sure)-that's when she got a PBC??????? I disagree w/ that but that's neither here nor there.she was VERY upset over what was sent and REGARDLESS of what origin,ethniticity,religion,etc....that this "human being" was, she needed to express the hurt and devastation this must have caused her(as it would most)and she wanted our support-that's why we're here right? OK-then it appears??? that when crazy t responded to dr.bob RE:another babbler,she stated that she would no longer associate herself w/ them...BLOCKED!???? i do not know how accurate i am on exactly what and especially the order of what happened. that is the basics. the only reason i realized crazy t was blocked was b/c i replied to her post of "what is ur worst fear" and i began 2 get worried about her b/c i had not seen her name and i always skim over her comments b/c she cracks me up even when i'm bummed. i only saw the *1* post between her and dr.bob and then the block and it upset me.i did not and still don't think it was justified. that's only my opinion and we are all entitled to that within limits. i didn't realize that this would cause such a hhmmmmm "discussion"?-but i sure hope that if i were to get blocked and it appeared wrong to ya'll that u would do the same. sorry this went on 4ever so i'll go now-take care Carolina
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2005, at 23:01:36
In reply to geez » gabbii, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 15:27:47
> > I am of the opinion that he may not want to be my friend.
>
> I AM SHOCKED AND DO NOT SEE WHAT SHE SAID THAT CONSTITUES A BLOCK????I was afraid that could lead him to feel accused of being unfriendly.
> i was going on her resonse at the top that she would just no longer speak to Lou,etc...everyone is entitled to their own opinion
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> CarolinaThe idea here is not to post opinions like that even if they're directed to someone else. Everyone's entitled to have their opinion, but not necessarily to post it. Freedom of speech is limited here.
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> > I don't give a rat's *ss what you're fighting for, what your political background is, who your god is, or what you've done. That's just f*cking WRONG.
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> it's uncivil to say it's wrong to kill people on this site? i'm floored.
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> crushedoutI was afraid that could lead others to feel what they were fighting for, what their political background was, who their god was, or what they'd done didn't matter.
Bob
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 23:19:04
In reply to Re: geez, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2005, at 23:01:36
> I was afraid that could lead others to feel what they were fighting for, what their political background was, who their god was, or what they'd done didn't matter.
>
> BobYou don't allow racist screen names here which does infer that there are limits to what can be considered acceptable behaviour.
Crazy T was saying that no matter what your cause that sort of violence is wrong.If I wrote:
It makes no difference what you are fighting for, torturing another human being is wrong, it's not acceptable, for any reason.
It's essentially what Crazy T was saying, would you really give me a P.B.C?
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 23:23:16
In reply to Re: geez, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2005, at 23:01:36
> > > I don't give a rat's *ss what you're fighting for, what your political background is, who your god is, or what you've done. That's just f*cking WRONG.
> >
> > it's uncivil to say it's wrong to kill people on this site? i'm floored.
> >
> > crushedout
>
> I was afraid that could lead others to feel what they were fighting for, what their political background was, who their god was, or what they'd done didn't matter.hmm, well that's not what that means. that clearly means that regardless of what your reasons are, she doesn't think you should drag or behead people. she was using strong language, but it seems warranted given the circumstances.
anyway, i'm sure i can't convince you that you're wrong so i don't know why i'm bothering.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 23:25:44
In reply to Dr. Bob? » Dr. Bob, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 23:19:04
> It makes no difference what you are fighting for, torturing another human being is wrong, it's not acceptable, for any reason.
>
> It's essentially what Crazy T was saying, would you really give me a P.B.C?of course he wouldn't.
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 23:45:03
In reply to Dr. Bob? » Dr. Bob, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 23:19:04
hey Dr. Bob-didn't expect to create an uproar but i still believe that the block on crazy t wasn't justified under FAQ and other rules...i agree w/ crushedout and gabbii. also, the way u take certain quotes out of posts can be extremely misleading. my comments were not expressed in my entire post the way they look if posted alone. i am a VERY supportive babbler towards every1 and i try 2 not be negative. i am a very outspoken person and still feel that you are in the wrong under your own rules 4 blocking crazy t. i hope u reread the entire post to see that she was expressing that she felt that violence and death towards another was wrong. i saw the implication of strong language w/*'S but i see that every day on posts. my main question that i am confused about is, why was crazy t blocked after responding to you personally that she would no longer associate herself w/ another babbler to keep from making statements that upset this fellow babbler??? and she didn't...i'm not trying to offend you in any way but i hope you think about this and hopefully change ur mind-(even the most brilliant people make errors) :-D...i do believe that this was one. i've spoken my mind on this, hopefully in an acceptable way and have stated my points RE: this so i'm done. PS- crazy t does a LOT of good for MANY babblers and she can be an excellent support system. just wanted u to know...thanx-carolina
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 23:51:13
In reply to Re: geez » Dr. Bob, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 23:23:16
this was a quote and c t was only asking 4 support after hearing this. she did not condone it, she was appalled by it. she only asked for support after seeing something as awful as a human life being taken regardless of what country these people were from. what if this had been discussed on "politics babble"? would that be acceptable? i'm new so i honestly don't know.
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 23:58:27
In reply to Re: geez/ crazy t » crushedout, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 23:51:13
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I think it was on Babble Politics actually.
I could be confused though. I don't read the faith board, and I did see her post before it was brought to my attention here.
Posted by JenStar on July 29, 2005, at 0:54:36
In reply to Reality Check!, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 16:51:15
hi gabbii,
I agree with you...it IS kind of like The Trial. (Or The Castle, in the distanced-from-reality kind of way.) Or like most of Kafka!Since Theresa's statement wasn't directed at any particular individual, but just a rant to the general public, I don't think it warranted a PBC. Even though it was strongly worded, I don't feel it's offensive to any religions or other groups.
Are we to assume that there might be a group out there that is very pro-arm-cutting-off-and-truck-dragging-and-beheading, and they might be offended to hear that their actions offend someone? To me, that is taking civility too far!
JenStar
Posted by Carolina on July 29, 2005, at 1:16:04
In reply to Re: geez/ crazy t » Carolina, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 23:58:27
hey gabbii-u know, thats a cool name...:-D (my real name is abbey and gabby was my nickname) anyway...i know that the very 1st post that prompted me to reply to administration was on the Faith babble. after bunches of confusion, i was directed to another forum by 1 of the above babblers i think. im just really sleepy w/ a lot on my mind so 4give me if i dont make much sense! i just look at it like this; we saw something we didn't all agree w/ and spoke up and that's all we can do.take care-carolina
Posted by Nikkit2 on July 29, 2005, at 3:20:49
In reply to Re: geez/ crazy t, posted by Carolina on July 29, 2005, at 1:16:04
That its fine to say that murder / torture etc is bad, but its not OK to call *anyone* by an abusive name.. how ever much you might think they are worth calling by that name
It can be very difficult to answer some of Lou Pilder's faith questions, as the answers are often going to be classed as uncivil - for example, if LP asked "Can only those that love Jesus be saved", and someone answered "yes", that would be against the civility rules, as its saying that someone who doesn't believe in Jesus will die come the apocolypse.. It *may* be a tenent of your faith, but its because not everyone here is of the same faith.
So, even though it seems incredibly unfair, and I can't explain within the civility guidelines why it is unfair to me, it is a rule here.
Nikki trying very hard to keep this within the guidelines!
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2005, at 4:25:27
In reply to Re: geez, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2005, at 23:01:36
I think you might have read that a bit quickly, Dr. Bob. Understandable, with all the posts you have to read.
I think she was saying just the opposite of putting any group of people down. She appeared talking about a particular behavior, not a belief system, and I see no where where she says any particular group was in favor of such a behavior. Well, other than people who use extreme violence. In fact, making the leap from people who use extreme violence to any one group (which is what it might be taken that your PBC did) is a bit offensive itself, you know. Not that I'm saying you did that. I'm guessing it was just the time pressures involved.
It has nothing to do with the block of course, but I think you ought to rescind the PBC.
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