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Posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2005, at 9:23:48
In reply to Re: Here is the post where, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 8:54:22
> WOW! i never saw that post but what was wrong w/ how she responded to Lou? I've read over it sev. times and i just can't figure out what was said that was against the rules? thanx-carolina
<shrugs> To me it sounded like she felt that Lou wouldn't want to be friends with her unless he held the same beliefs as she does?? Which is jumping to a conclusion about him? THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE OF THE BLOCK, but just my interpretation/best guess.
partlycloudy
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 9:29:38
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » Carolina, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2005, at 9:23:48
> > WOW! i never saw that post but what was wrong w/ how she responded to Lou? I've read over it sev. times and i just can't figure out what was said that was against the rules? thanx-carolina
>
I can understand the block more than I can understand the P.B.C.. I mean if you can't saying dragging someone behind a truck is wrong.. I can't even finish that
Posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2005, at 9:39:54
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » partlycloudy, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 9:29:38
Most of this stuff baffles me. I even read a book about civility hoping some ray of light would shine through my dim little head as to what's appropriate to say and what isn't.
I just try not to get upset about the rules anymore.
And I take a lot longer to compose responses to posts!!
partly
p.s. you have mail!
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 10:25:46
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » partlycloudy, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 9:29:38
ok,i just skimmed over the original post by crazy t that upset her so much....i wld issue a PBC only IF she didn't respond w/ that flood of emotions. i guess i will never understand- there has been a former poster that is blocked NOW but has posted HORRIBLE things and nothing was done until SEVERAL posts that def. go against policy offended A LOT of babblers. ok-crazy t got a PBC but that still doesn't explain the block in RE: to her reply to (Dr.Bob) in response to Lou.??
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 10:35:42
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » Carolina, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2005, at 9:23:48
hey partlycloudy-
i see where ur guess is coming from.???? i read things on other posts though that are "acceptable" and they go against specific rules listed at FAQ;
then crazy t posts something that myself(and others) do not see in any way going against policy and she gets a block....i'm gonna get off 4 now-i just felt that her block wasn't justified and felt i should speak up take :-D care-carolina
Posted by AuntieMel on July 28, 2005, at 10:39:50
In reply to Re: Here is the post where, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 10:35:42
Well, the post she was asked to rephrase seems against policy to me.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20050510/msgs/533058.html
Maybe the block was because she didn't rephrase? I don't know - only Dr. Bob knows for sure.
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 10:43:57
In reply to Re: Here is the post where, posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 10:35:42
This might help more.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/320097.html
Particularly the part about what to do when you receive a PBC. In this case it was a Please Rephrase, which is even trickier because it's sort of a conditional PBC.
It was a post where Dr. Bob has some discretion and it depends a lot on his interpretation of both the post and the circumstances. But it's not particularly surprising.
Posted by Carolina on July 28, 2005, at 11:08:16
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » Carolina, posted by AuntieMel on July 28, 2005, at 10:39:50
sorry, all the > and >> CONFUSES ME!!!! :-)....i was going on her resonse at the top that she would just no longer speak to Lou,etc...everyone is entitled to their own opinion-take care carolina
Posted by rayww on July 28, 2005, at 11:23:29
In reply to Re: WHAT EXACTLY DID CRAZY T DO DR. BOB???, posted by Sonya on July 28, 2005, at 9:16:47
> I'm also fairly new to this forum, and I've never before posted to this board because it's too volatile for me. But I'm making an exception here because I agree with Carolina. When I first read Crazy T's post, and the subsequent PBC and block, I was confused...it didn't seem warranted.
The questions asked by Lou have the potential to draw those answers which could get someone blocked.
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 11:29:11
In reply to Re: WHAT EXACTLY DID CRAZY T DO DR. BOB???, posted by rayww on July 28, 2005, at 11:23:29
Or they have the potential to draw answers that would bring God's love here to the earth.
:)
Posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 11:35:16
In reply to Big Shrug. » gabbii, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2005, at 9:39:54
> Most of this stuff baffles me. I even read a book about civility hoping some ray of light would shine through my dim little head as to what's appropriate to say and what isn't.
> I just try not to get upset about the rules anymore.Sorry, that wasn't really meant for you to ponder, I accidentally clicked that button..
which I almost always do.I have mail?
Cool! Thanks.
> And I take a lot longer to compose responses to posts!!
> partly
> p.s. you have mail!
Posted by rayww on July 28, 2005, at 13:31:00
In reply to Re: WHAT EXACTLY DID CRAZY T DO DR. BOB??? » rayww, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 11:29:11
As usual you are right, then perhaps there is a little more to being saved, than being saved.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 15:27:47
In reply to Re: Here is the post where » partlycloudy, posted by gabbii on July 28, 2005, at 9:29:38
i'm with you, gabbii. i haven't even looked at the post where she got blocked. i just kept reading over and over the one where she got pbc'd and scratching my head till it hurts.huh? dr. bob? it's uncivil to say it's wrong to kill people on this site? i'm floored. dinah, can you help me understand this?
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 15:56:12
In reply to geez » gabbii, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 15:27:47
I believe it was the form, not the content that was at issue.
I'm sure it's quite possible to say that you find killing wrong under site guidelines. :)
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:02:01
In reply to Re: geez » crushedout, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 15:56:12
phew, that's good to know. but still...are you referring to the cursing? i thought it was ok to curse as long as you used asterisks, and now that there's a filter, we're not even responsible for those? i don't get it.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:03:38
In reply to Re: geez » crushedout, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 15:56:12
> I'm sure it's quite possible to say that you find killing wrong under site guidelines. :)that would be taking objectivity and nonjudgmentalness to an extreme now, wouldn't it?
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:18:32
In reply to Re: geez » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:02:01
Not *just* the cursing.
Obviously I can't comment on a specific post, or Dr. Bob's thinking about it.
But pretend you were the recipient.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:22:18
In reply to Re: geez » crushedout, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:18:32
but it wasn't directed *at* anyone, was it? i thought she was starting a thread and just ranting about something that happened. frankly, i didn't quite follow what she was talking about but i think it's because i was reading so quickly. (i'm an incorrigible skimmer these days. reading too much, i guess.)
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:26:25
In reply to Re: geez » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:22:18
I didn't look at the quotation in context.
In context, clearly the person she was talking about wasn't a fellow babbler...
She didn't override the curse filter...
Perhaps Dr. Bob thought a particular religion could feel put down? Although I thought the overall message was just the opposite.
OK, you got me. You'll have to ask Dr. Bob.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:32:22
In reply to Well, now you caught me., posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:26:25
You don't know how happy this makes me, Dinah. If *you* don't get it, then I can't possibly feel bad about not getting it. (Idealize Dinah much? So sue me.)Happy dance.
But I'm mad about the injustice of the PBC and sad that crazy t got blocked.
And I'd still really like Dr. Bob to explain himself, although I don't hold out hopes of him actually clarifying anything. In the past when I've had such hopes, I've been sorely disappointed. Wanna give me a pleasant surprise Mr. Dr. Bob sir?
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:34:55
In reply to Well, now you caught me., posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:26:25
I'm assuming Dr. Bob doesn't want us to make beheaders and murderers and people like that feel unwelcome here.i'm not smiling. i have a quizzical look on my face and a question mark lighted up over my head.
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:40:01
In reply to Re: Well, now you caught me. » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:32:22
Well, to be fair. The PBC and the block are not necessarily related. A block can also be given after a Please Rephrase that is not rephrased to civility guideline standards. A Please Rephrase is nothing but a conditional Please Be Civil. If you don't take the chance to fix it, it's the same as a PBC.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:45:09
In reply to Re: Well, now you caught me. » crushedout, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:40:01
yeah i know that. that's why i said i was mad about the injustice of the pbc and sad that she got blocked. i see them as separate. i still don't even know why she was blocked. but just getting a pbc when you don't deserve one stinks. so that makes me mad.
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:48:07
In reply to Re: Well, now you caught me. » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:45:09
Perhaps Dr. Bob could discuss the particulars of this PBC and/or block, and his thinking behind it.
Posted by crushedout on July 28, 2005, at 16:50:07
In reply to Re: Well, now you caught me. » crushedout, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2005, at 16:48:07
How about just the PBC, for starters. Dr. Bob?
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