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Posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 18:41:15
In reply to Re: i was joking, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:38:34
Perhaps it is your tone that people misread? I am good for a joke, but not at mine or others' expense.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 18:43:50
In reply to Re: There is nothing I hate worse, posted by Dinah on October 15, 2004, at 18:39:59
I know, but I'm hurting and trying to fight back for once instead of others doing it for me. People are not playing Fair. I will not be beat up in this schoolyard.
Posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:44:16
In reply to Re: i was joking, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:38:34
i know it is not legal, i am not dumb. i have been made to feel dumb and i am sick of people making me feel like nothing. sorry i have only been here a couple months, seems like the newbies get picked on alot more then the veterns. i have had 3 panic attacks since all this started. i may do something, dr bob needs to understand that him nore his crew can get away with doing this to people. be careful what you write back. i can print anything. i noticed dinah was quick to apologize to torp when she really owed me one. no one bothered to see how my feelings were doing afterwards. weell, panick attacks and a doctors visit. yall dont realize how your comments effect some people. thanks a bunch.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 18:48:07
In reply to Re:all this drama has sunk me back into depression, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:44:16
I can direct you to a really nice website where you won't have to deal with this anymore. it is http://forums.psychcentral.com/. I don't go there anymore, so you don't have to worry about me.
Posted by Dinah on October 15, 2004, at 18:50:36
In reply to Re:all this drama has sunk me back into depression, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:44:16
I did my very best to say nothing hurtful to you, but if I missed the mark I apologize. I had no intent to hurt you.
Posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:52:45
In reply to Re:all this drama has sunk me back into depression » bride2be, posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 18:48:07
i dont need it thank you. i have a wonderful husband and family. this was a terrible exp. and if i can take legal action i just might. after all i guess sometimes shit hits the fan. and with me, it has. causing my health to go down hill is a big deal and my husband is a lawyer. i mentioned how many times i was hurt. any support from bob? nope. thats a great way to run a support system. maybe i should bill dr bob for my bill since i had a doc apt today. naaah, i dont want a thing from him. dr bob, you are an inconcederate asshole. wow, i feel so much better.
Posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:54:26
In reply to I have no trouble apologizing » bride2be, posted by Dinah on October 15, 2004, at 18:50:36
dinah, give me a break you were so quick to side with bob, it reminded me of a follower of a cult leader. too late for an apology. dont need it and dont want it. i was not wrong and i know in my heart.
Posted by Dinah on October 15, 2004, at 18:56:55
In reply to Re: I have no trouble apologizing, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:54:26
Posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:59:34
In reply to Re: I have no trouble apologizing, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:54:26
maybe this mary lady popped out after reading all this shit that went on with me. did yall ever think about that. she may be looking out for innocent people like me that gets really hurt on a website like this. i dont know that that is true, but if there is a complete stranger looking out for me, thats more then i can say for dr bob and a couple others. that is really sad. quit being so mean to her. she helps people out. you all are so quick to jump on people. do you guys kill for dr bob too? i am beginning to wonder.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 19:14:33
In reply to Re: think about it, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:59:34
I thought you made your last post a while ago... change your mind??
Posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 19:17:42
In reply to Re: think about it » bride2be, posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 19:14:33
do you feel good when someone tells you they are depressed and you make a comment that makes me cry. you are mean, what dont you understand. leave me alone. gosh, you are a bitch! dont acted shocked, when some disclosed health problems and you keep on, you are asking for it. you must not know anyone with depression and ANXIETY OR YOU WOULD NOT KEEP TRYING ME.
Posted by verne on October 15, 2004, at 19:21:17
In reply to Re:all this drama has sunk me back into depression, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:52:45
I'm sorry you got pounced on when all you did was ask for a way to contact Mary B. Or did I miss something?
I'm also sorry if you've had a rough time here. I'm not really a veteran although I've been here off and on since 2000. I know what you're talking about when one feels like an outsider, having gone through some serious maulings myself at another site until I became a mostly immune "senior member" (ugh). The incrowd-outsider tension may be a problem with any message board.
I think, though, that Dr. Bob runs one of the safest sites I've ever encountered. Veterans will get blocked as soon as newcomers for uncivility.
The key for me is not take things personally. I try not to rise to the bait. I guess I don't get too "invested" in online discussions or empower others that much. I never did find cyber-relationships that fulfilling anyway.
verne
Posted by Mary_Bowers on October 15, 2004, at 20:48:04
In reply to Re: think about it, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 18:59:34
> she may be looking out for innocent people like me that gets really hurt on a website like this. i dont know that that is true, but if there is a complete stranger looking out for me, thats more then i can say for dr bob and a couple others. that is really sad.
I wasn't looking out for you specifically in that instance, but categorically, yes, a complete stranger is looking out for you.
However, just because we are watching out for you doesn't mean we will be able to help. Often it does help just to begin defining the circumstances that can lead to injury.
Unfortunately, if an administrator decides it is okay to hurt a few for the benefit of others, denies that people are being hurt, or disparages those who attempt to explain how they were hurt, simply identifying the problem might not help. In such circumstances, it might be worthwhile to review other opportunities to find relief.
I'm not sure I can do much more than I've offered here, at least at this point in our research, but if you want to contact me, you may e-mail me at mary_bowers(at sign here)operamail.com. I'll try to reply, but i have a day job, and won't be able to individually reply to all messages if I turn out to be as popular an e-mail correspondent as I seem to be here on this page.
Posted by Toph on October 15, 2004, at 20:53:05
In reply to A civil venue for accusations, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 15, 2004, at 11:53:29
Mary, that thing you said about cyber addiction was true. I sat here on this seat so long I developed a decubitus sore. You've been so helpful today I was hoping you could do what my mommy did to my
booboos. ((
Posted by gardenergirl on October 15, 2004, at 21:25:40
In reply to Re: think about it---PC, posted by bride2be on October 15, 2004, at 19:17:42
Not your fault and certainly statements made recently are not what the rest of us, and I do feel comfortable speaking for the group, think!
Big huge hug for as long as you need.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on October 15, 2004, at 21:27:46
In reply to Re: A civil venue for accusations » Mary_Bowers, posted by Toph on October 15, 2004, at 20:53:05
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2004, at 4:25:33
In reply to Re: A civil venue for accusations » Mary_Bowers, posted by Toph on October 15, 2004, at 20:53:05
> PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION.
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> partlycloudy> BUGGER OFF
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> AuntieMel> You've been so helpful today I was hoping you could do what my mommy did to my booboos.
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> TophI'm sorry I haven't been around, but I'd like again to ask everyone to be civil, which includes not pressuring others. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Toph on October 16, 2004, at 7:21:12
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2004, at 4:25:33
I apologize for the scatological humor, whenever someone scratches my car I get this vengeful urge. I'll try to work on passively accepting this kind of vandalism from now on.
This group is an amorphous living thing composed of independent living cells. Their connecting bond may be tenuous but it is real, having at least something to do with a mutual desire to congregate with similar cells and, in part, because of a love-hate feeling for you, I suppose. When attacked, the group goes into the fight-flight mode like any living entity. When I told Mary to 'kiss my *ss' it was only because she scratched my damn car. If I deserve a time out maybe its for the best. I've been kind of hypo-manic lately and PB hasn't helped.
-Toph
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2004, at 16:07:03
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Toph on October 16, 2004, at 7:21:12
> I apologize for the scatological humor, whenever someone scratches my car I get this vengeful urge. I'll try to work on passively accepting this kind of vandalism from now on.
>
> When attacked, the group goes into the fight-flight mode like any living entity.Thanks. Urges like that are understandable, but two wrongs don't make a right. And there are other alternatives besides fight, flight, and passive acceptance. And living entities heal when scratched...
Bob
Posted by Toph on October 16, 2004, at 17:33:56
In reply to Re: scratches, posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2004, at 16:07:03
> Thanks. Urges like that are understandable, but two wrongs don't make a right. And there are other alternatives besides fight, flight, and passive acceptance... >
> BobOh, that's right, Bob. I completely forgot about weggies.
-Toph
Posted by saw on October 18, 2004, at 2:16:09
In reply to Re: think about it » bride2be, posted by partlycloudy on October 15, 2004, at 19:14:33
Partlycloudy, you have my full support and agreement on this subject.
I won't say anymore than that!
Sabrina
Posted by alesta on October 21, 2004, at 4:00:56
In reply to A civil venue for accusations, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 15, 2004, at 11:53:29
I am not quite sure what all this debating is about over here on admin, but I would like to speak out..as one of those individuals who unwittingly became nearly suicidal after one of my "productive discussions" with dr. bob, I am advocating a need for change in this forum. Just because you yourself have not been traumatized by the admin experience doesn't undermine those who have. I suffered greatly and needlessly. This is something I never expected to happen at a forum supporting mental health. I feel this combination of puritanical civility guidelines and an admin board to debate them is a recipe for disaster, and is not in the best interests of its members. I hope that my view here is not pounced upon and rejected, but this is a risk I'm taking. And until you have been in one of those notoriously frustrating, fruitless coversations with dr. bob under the guise that you're actually making progress, I suppose you will never understand why he evokes such strong emotions in some of us e.g. atticus, and other people I know who shall remain nameless. There are other communities without all this stressful debating and civility guidelines and they are calmer, more supportive environments to be in. Perhaps Dr. Bob could learn something from those sites.
I may not return here to admin in an effort to protect my mental health, as I know all too well how uncivil it can get here. But I just wanted to express my opinion. Thanks for listening.
amy :)
Posted by SLS on October 21, 2004, at 6:51:49
In reply to Re: A civil venue for accusations, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 15, 2004, at 12:19:51
> Do they claim to be interactive medical education sites administered by a physician?
What if this same site were administered by a plumber?
- Scott
Posted by SLS on October 21, 2004, at 7:10:00
In reply to Re: A civil venue for accusations, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 15, 2004, at 13:59:20
> If people would suffer from the site being shut down, that suggests a clinical relationship in which the site is operated to relieve suffering,
I think this statement might represent an important error in logic. I think there would be people who would suffer from the shut down of just about any kind of support forum, despite a lack of a clinical relationship with a moderator. I think there would even be people who would suffer from the shut down of CNN. Support and education can exist independent of medical clinical management. If you will notice, Dr. Hsiung NEVER submits posts offering medical clinical advise. He could just as well be a plumber in the way he functions here. Even plumbers have opinions as to what constitutes civil discourse. Does a plumber have the option of moderating his website in the way he pleases? I don't know.
- Scott
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 21, 2004, at 13:04:35
In reply to Re: A civil venue for accusations » Mary_Bowers, posted by SLS on October 21, 2004, at 7:10:00
Sorry, this only came to me last night.
Is this a Dr Bob thing, or are you doing the same for other Doctors who run peer support sites?? Are you also building a case against Dr Grohol for example?
Thankyou,
Nikki
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