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Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:09
In reply to To Chemist and Larry, posted by AuntieMel on August 30, 2004, at 11:10:55
let's not inflame the issue here...i think chemist, verne, and flm all had some role in offending...although i'm not implicating blame on any of them in this post..:)
Posted by Verne on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:09
In reply to still, i remain confused... » flmm, posted by chemist on August 30, 2004, at 11:57:34
I thought Dr. Bob said sarcasm was out too.
Posted by chemist on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:10
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie, posted by alesta on August 30, 2004, at 12:03:06
> let's not inflame the issue here...i think chemist, verne, and flm all had some role in offending...although i'm not implicating blame on any of them in this post..:)
hi amy....dr. bob has requested i be civil and only cites a paragraph in which i only reiterate what the poster flmm stated about her/his own knowledge about the subject. further, i complimented flmm in what i opined to be ``self-realization.'' you are in agreement with dr. bob that i should ``be civil'' when echoing a poster's very own words while simultaneously offering words of encouragement to said poster? how do you justify this, especially in light of the comments directed at me (and, to a lesser degree, larry)? should one refrain from, say, cutting and pasting part of a post when replying and, additionally, refrain from offering words of encouragement to others? please do clarify.....all the best, chemist
Posted by chemist on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:10
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused... » chemist, posted by Verne on August 30, 2004, at 12:11:33
> I thought Dr. Bob said sarcasm was out too.
hello there, chemist here...i am not being sarcastic. dr. bob has deemed my response to flmmm sarcastic, and dr. bob is incorrect. i am quite interested in hearing from flmm in re: self-esteem boosting dietary products. i am very, very serious and very, very far from being sarcastic. all the best, chemist
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:11
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie » alesta, posted by chemist on August 30, 2004, at 12:15:41
chemist :),
i'm not blaming anybody here. i just don't want to see any outside parties adding fuel to the fire by taking sides. or this is potentially going to turn into world war 3!:) i think there's enough conflict brewing right now. the last thing i want to do is step into this thing. i think you all should just drop it. you guys are past any point of reconciliation/agreement, and i'm sorry it's gotten to this point. please let it go, y'all...for me? (i know it's easy for me to say, as i'm not involved..)amy
Posted by chemist on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:11
In reply to Re: please be civil » chemist » verne » flmm, posted by Dr. Bob on August 29, 2004, at 23:40:47
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:12
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused... » Verne, posted by chemist on August 30, 2004, at 12:17:43
Chemist, please, you drip of sarcasm! You are far to anylitcal for your own good! It is difficult to function in the world for you I understand. I have NO evidence to back up my advice for you to help you with your self-esteem. I am merely grasping at straws, trying to find any solution to help you with your insecurities, and self-confidence issues. We have all read your resume by now good buddy, and I think all on the board agree you are "Chemist the Great", so be happy and confident in that. It is no longer needed to keep jumping up and down on the board, proclaiming your unchallenged greatness. Peace good buddy
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:12
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 12:47:49
flmmm, i think that's really enough. if you want to continue to "work this out" with chemist, can you guys exchange emails or something? this thread may have been exciting to read at first but to us sensitive souls is becoming quite disturbing...
amy :)
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:13
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by alesta on August 30, 2004, at 12:52:34
You can read other threads if you like. I am merely having a civil discussion with the great Genius chemist, who all should bow down to.
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:13
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused... alesta, posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 12:55:14
yes, i can read other threads, but i will still be aware of the conflict in this one, as will everyone else. i really hope chemist can take the high road and not respond to you...
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:14
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused... alesta, posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 12:55:14
> You can read other threads if you like. I am merely having a civil discussion with the great Genius chemist, who all should bow down to.
I hope you reconsider the contents of your last two posts. You've already been warned to be civil, and a timely apology might preclude your being blocked.
It's awfully hard to bring up the subject of qualifications, without sounding arrogant. However, the qualifications themselves do confer substantial specialized training and interpretative abilities. His is an educated opinion, rather than a layman's one.
Lar
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:15
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused... » flmm, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 13:39:07
Again, more inside sarcasm from Mr. Hoover. I do not need to respond as to my qualifications Mr. Hoover as I am secure in myself. I do know this however, you and chemist are not the only people who have the ability to read and interpret information, just because you have a degree or it is your "proffession". Also, how all of this reacts in the brain is largely unknown which is of no debate. 100 years from now what you know now will be of no value to that generation because of new information about the brain! Your degree means nothing to me, niether does your proffession! You may know chemicals, people is your and chemist problem!
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:15
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 14:08:43
Ps if I get blocked I will survive, I have a life outside of here!
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:16
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 14:14:14
auntiemel, sorry. you are entitled to say what you wanted to say (of course). i had no right to tell you not to post that. uh...i think i'm getting a headache...
amyp.s. i'm going to leave the attempt at peacekeeping to someone else next time...i need to brush up on my skills...
Posted by AuntieMel on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:16
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie, posted by alesta on August 30, 2004, at 12:39:23
I am not trying to inflame anything. I didn't even comment on the topic at hand. As someone that would like to consider Chemist and Lar as friends I was merely complimenting them on staying calm.
It wasn't all that long ago that I couldn't have made that statememt;)
Again. Good job, guys!
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:16
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 14:08:43
> Again, more inside sarcasm from Mr. Hoover.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I am perplexed, but I will say no more.
Lar
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:17
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie » alesta, posted by AuntieMel on August 30, 2004, at 14:42:44
i know that....that's why i'm apologizing! is it that time of the month everybody?
amy
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:17
In reply to auntiemel, i apologize, posted by alesta on August 30, 2004, at 14:36:34
I am done posting on this issuue, so the contoversy will end! My only point is that Mr. Hoover and chemist are not the only people with the ability to use their brains, regardless of their training and proffession. There are many highly trained, highly skilled people in any proffession who are largely, incompetent. I am not implying that chemist and, or Mr. Hoover are incompetent, only providing the possibiliy based on evedince on past posts. Sorry if I offended, but other people have brains as well, some, even "laymen" brains, function quite well thank you.
out flm
Posted by AuntieMel on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:18
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie, posted by alesta on August 30, 2004, at 14:48:36
No sweat. It's just that in case any of it slipped by I wanted to make double sure you didn't think I had any bad motives.
Aren't we in a full moon?
Posted by KaraS on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:18
In reply to Re: still, i remain confused..., posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 14:08:43
> Again, more inside sarcasm from Mr. Hoover. I do not need to respond as to my qualifications Mr. Hoover as I am secure in myself. I do know this however, you and chemist are not the only people who have the ability to read and interpret information, just because you have a degree or it is your "proffession". Also, how all of this reacts in the brain is largely unknown which is of no debate. 100 years from now what you know now will be of no value to that generation because of new information about the brain! Your degree means nothing to me, niether does your proffession! You may know chemicals, people is your and chemist problem!
Qualifications aside, Larry Hoover and Chemist are well-liked and well-respected by many, many people on this board including myself. "People" is definitely NOT a problem I would attribute to either one of them!
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:18
In reply to Re: To Chemist and Larry--auntie » alesta, posted by AuntieMel on August 30, 2004, at 15:25:59
> No sweat. It's just that in case any of it slipped by I wanted to make double sure you didn't think I had any bad motives.
oh, no, auntie...i never thought that.:) and i totally understand your wanting to clear that up. i should never have made that post. sorry to jump on you!...:)
> Aren't we in a full moon?
very interesting question! i, too, have heard that it affects people's moods...something about the gravitational pull? i'm not sure...it is that "time of the month" for me personally, so that plus a full moon would be a most lethal combo. thanks for understanding....
take care :),
amy :)
Posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:19
In reply to Re: auntiemel, i apologize, posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 14:49:19
> I am done posting on this issuue, so the contoversy will end! My only point is that Mr. Hoover and chemist are not the only people with the ability to use their brains, regardless of their training and proffession. There are many highly trained, highly skilled people in any proffession who are largely, incompetent. I am not implying that chemist and, or Mr. Hoover are incompetent, only providing the possibiliy based on evedince on past posts. Sorry if I offended, but other people have brains as well, some, even "laymen" brains, function quite well thank you.
It's kind of too bad that I didn't jump in faster (other than my very short post earlier) if you are indeed ceasing to reply to this thread. I'm very curious as to why someone else's posts appear to me to be so upsetting to you. Sure there are other people capable of providing the kind of information that Lar and chemist do. There are others here on Babble who do this already. I don't understand your upset. I felt a flavor of something personally upsetting in your posts. Can you talk about what's going on with you?
Warmly,
gg
Posted by flmm on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:19
In reply to I'm curious » flmm, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 20:20:26
My basic problem is the pompous nature of chemist posts. I have read many and he routinely talks down to people, as if he is the only human capable of processing knowledge. On many posts he "slips' in drips of sarcasm and pretends to act as if he did not. He knows this! Anyways, his advice about drugs may be valid from a chemical standpoint, but clearly he lacks knowledge about the brain and people in general. That is what shrinks are for and that is why him charading as one is dangerous! His advice is of little value to me and I do not understand his godlike treatment on the board. But knock yourself out, I will stick to "True" proffessionals!
Posted by alesta on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:20
In reply to Re: to all... » Larry Hoover, posted by chemist on August 29, 2004, at 21:20:00
ok, i have to say something here..and if people hate me for it so be it...i can see why flmmm feels as he does. he is not the sole bad guy here. yes, he got a little emotional early on in his thread, but he didn't put anyone down. then chemist said:
> and given that other contributions to this thread have been ill- or non-informed, and hence i suspect that further investigation will not be persued with vigor > >
this comment was completely unnecessary. anyone who does not think that is insulting needs to get their head examined. if someone said that to you, wouldn't you be pissed? chemist and larry had already responded to what flmm had said. and that was fine. there was no need for this insulting "dig" on chemists's part. it was pretty subtle, so no one seemed to truly catch it and understand that this was a *put-down*. subtle put-downs are very powerful. it was offensive and unnecessarily insulting. there is where flmm became very angry, as no one seemed to notice or care...i am not saying flmm wasn't out of line after this, as he definitrly was, but i am tired of seeing all the blame rest completely on his shoulders. there were two players in this...i know we all like chemist, but he is not perfect, either....
amy
Posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2004, at 7:34:20
In reply to Re: I'm curious, posted by flmm on August 30, 2004, at 20:51:19
That's fair as your own opinion. But I don't understand the repeated posts about it. Why not use your beliefs to judge the merits of all posters for yourself? Why the need to post repeatedly on this? Can you talk about how this is helping you?
gg
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