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Posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 17:04:53
In reply to Lou's response to Dr. Bob's post-VC-3 » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 14:24:53
> I always take account of people's feelings,
Lou, did you take people's feelings into account when you used these insulting distortions of people's names to illustrate your point?
ObstreporousTex:
Weirdedbeardo:
Drippy2:
boozman:
Posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 17:09:29
In reply to Lou's response to Dr. Bob's post-VC-3 » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 14:24:53
> I always take account of people's feelings, if they are ligitamate and reasoanable.
How exactly does one determine what feelings are "legitimate and reasonable"?
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 20:08:52
In reply to Re: Lou's respomses, posted by Dr. Bob on April 9, 2003, at 1:02:03
Dr. Bob,
You wrote,[...no apparent reason...].
Let us look at this example:
Drippy2: Does anybody here know of a good OTC medicine for sinus trouble?
Weirdedbeardo: I had seeenus trouble once.
Drippy2: What do you mean seenus trouble? I have sinus trouble.
Lou: Well, Drippy2, could you explain the diiference between sinus trouble and seenus trouble?
Drippy2: I'm declaring that you are to not post to me. I am a recently new poster here and I have never communicated with you, but I am exercising my right here to declare that you not post to me anyway.
Wierdedbeardo: I was out with this girl and my girlfriend seenus, and boy did I have trouble.
Dr. Bob, would Drippy be allowed to invoke the declaration that I was not to respond to him/her under the fact that there was [...no apparent reason...]?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 20:31:01
In reply to Re: Lou's respomses, posted by Dr. Bob on April 9, 2003, at 1:02:03
Dr. Bob,
You wrote,[...unfortunately,people who are asked not to post could end up stigmatized...].
Let us look at this example:
ObstreporousTex: I have been reading this board and I'm not taking any advise from any of you. The only question that I really wanted answered here was whether I should take mojo at the same time that I am using parfanute. I read all of your replys to me and I'm just not going to listen to you because not one of you had taken mojo with parfanute yourselves and were only citing opinions of others, and us Texans want it from the horse's mouth.
Lou: I took mojo with parfanute, ObstreporousRex, would you like to here what I know personally about it?
ObstreporousTex:I have been reading that others here are telling you that you are not to post to them, so there must be something wrong with you and so I do not want to hear from you either.
Dr. Bob, would OT be allowed to invoke the [...not post to me...] policy under in this example?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 20:53:45
In reply to Re: Distorting people's names, posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 17:04:53
noa,
You wrote,[...distortions of people's names...].
The names in the examples are fictitious names in a hypothetical example to ask the moderator of this baord to clarify a proposed policy that I consider to be an unsound mental-health practice , if the polcy is implemented without input from the posters here. Ther is a civil discussion ongoing about whether this policy should exists in one form or another , or not at all. It is important that the discussion be focused on the policy that we are talking about, and I am giving my input , and others are also. Are you saying that my intentions are to insult someone? If so,and my intentions are not to innsult anyone, could you tell me what it is that makes you rush to that conclusion?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 21:17:18
In reply to Re: feelings, posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 17:09:29
noa,
You wrote,[...how do you determine what feelings are reasonable and ligitamate...]?
Well, if their feelings are internally generated, then I do not feel that I am responsible for anyone else's reaction that they may have for their reaction could be irrational in respect to the subject at hand. This was discussed here previously when a poster objected to me writing about God because the poster's parents were religious and somehow the religion in the family harmed the poster and my post supposedly could trigger bad memories of the posters parents in relation to religion. I feel that no one has to muzzle themselves to accomodate the unknown triggers to anothers past problems in their lives, for I feel that would be an unreasonable expectation to impose on any one.
Lou
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 8:08:49
In reply to Lou's respomse to noa's post-DPTM » noa, posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 20:53:45
"The names in the examples are fictitious names in a hypothetical example ..."
You are joking right Lou... The names you used, are NOT fictitious as you rightly know. YOu have taken posters names here and distorted them.
It is offensive, nasty, and your denial of it simply... well, I don't have the word for it.
Are you trying to tell me that names such as OsteperousRex and WierdedBeardo, Boozeman and Drippy2, were just complete figments of your imagination, and any similiarity to posters here, is a strange coincidence?
Please refrain from using names you have twisted from real posters.
Nikki
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:20:48
In reply to Re: Lou's respomse to noa's post-DPTM » Lou Pilder, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 8:08:49
NikkiT2,
You wrote,[...you have taken poster's names here and distorted them...].
Could you match up the names in my hypothetical situation that you think corrospond to posters here? If you could, then I could respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by OddipusRex on April 14, 2003, at 9:30:36
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM » NikkiT2, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:20:48
Here I was thinking I'd been an inspiration :) I wouldn't have taken any offense if I had been.
> NikkiT2,
> You wrote,[...you have taken poster's names here and distorted them...].
> Could you match up the names in my hypothetical situation that you think corrospond to posters here? If you could, then I could respond accordingly.
> Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:40:59
In reply to Perhaps I flattered myself re ObstreperousTex » Lou Pilder, posted by OddipusRex on April 14, 2003, at 9:30:36
OddipusRex,
You wrote,[...I'd been an inspiration...].
Thank you for pointing out that there could be [other] reasons why a name is used in a hypothetical example. You see, in the hypothetical example, another poster could have been {inspiered} by you and since he was from Texas, and cantankerous, he made up the name, ObstreperousTex because he admired you.
Lou
Posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:42:48
In reply to Lou's respomse to noa's post-DPTM » noa, posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2003, at 20:53:45
I haven't concluded anything. But I am saying that I perceive that the "fictitious" names you've chosen are not hypothetical enough. To me, they seem too closely related to real names on this board, with minor distortions of a negative nature. This is my perception. I am saying that when I read them I see them as potentially insulting and in contradiction to your stated intentions of considering other people's feelings. That is all.
Posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:49:25
In reply to Re: Perhaps I flattered myself re ObstreperousTex » OddipusRex, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:40:59
Lou, give me a break.
Any second-grader would be able to match them up. And if you claim that it is coincidence, I would not be able to believe you.
And if you claim that there is no way the names could be perceived as insulting, I would disagree. Rex might be flattered but I think that is unusual. To be flattered would require seeing it as sarcasm in good faith, and sarcasm is at the very least very risky in this form of communication.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:50:15
In reply to Re: Lou's respomse to noa's post-DPTM, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:42:48
noa,
You wrote,[...I havn't concluded anything...potentually insulting...].
Could you match up the posters names with the hypothetical ones? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond to your perception that the names are insulting.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 10:02:21
In reply to Re: Perhaps I flattered myself re ObstreperousTex, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:49:25
noa,
You wrote,[...to be flattered would {requier}...].
I do not believe there are any set requierments for one to be flattered. In the hypothetical, more than one perception could be made. ObstreporousTex could have {liked} the name of OddipusRex for many different reasons, not just the reason that you percieve.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 10:09:46
In reply to Re: Perhaps I flattered myself re ObstreperousTex, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:49:25
noa,
You wrote,[...names changed...insulting...].
Could you clarify what names are changed and how the change resulte in {insulting}? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 10:37:12
In reply to Re: Perhaps I flattered myself re ObstreperousTex, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 9:49:25
noa,
You wrote,[...any 2end grader would be able to match them up...].
Well, I do not know who you are matching up who with who. Are you saying that a 2end grader could do the matching and that I can't? If so, could you clarify the charactoristics of a 2end grader that I am lacking? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 10:48:31
In reply to Re: Lou's respomse to noa's post-DPTM » Lou Pilder, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 8:08:49
NikkiT2,
You wrote, "The names you used are Not fictitious as you rightly know."
Could you clarify what you used to make that conclusion? The names are fictitious,for the example is hypothetical and the names are of unreal people. Are you saying that you have some type of special power to look into my mind and tell what I {know}?
Lou
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM » NikkiT2, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 9:20:48
Lou.
I can't believe that you are denying this.. you have been so openly offensive, that every one here (and yes, I have recieved personal messages to this effect) can see what you did.
*bangs head against brick wall*
My 4 year old nephew would be able to work out exactly who you were reffering to with your pseudonyms, so please, don't act so innocent.
Lou, you are a nasty piece of work. You deliberately, and yes, I mean deliberately, wind people up, again and again and again. People ask you not to ask for clarification, and you say they are rude and uncivil, but you think you can get away with calling me Drippy??? Or Beardedlady Wierd???
You can never simply reply with one post, but, take this thread as an example, you go over and over the same things time and time again. People are just pushed to the edge of distraction by you.You upset people, and people let you know that they do, yet you continue to bang away at them.
Your grammer is appalling. Your use of ]'s and the like make your posts virtually impossible to read and understand, and your spelling is terrible - and yes, you've posted asking for clarififcation on a post of mine due to a simple typo that any normal person would have seen straight away as a typo. But no, you have to harrass me and make me feel so angry that you couldn't just let one simply typo go.
As for you communication expert. Has he ever looked at any posts of yours?? Some how I doubt it, as your communication is terrible, and no one ever really knows what you're actually trying to say.
You play the hard done by, victimised person every time anyone stands up for themselves against you.
You are part of a community here Lou, yet you are not willing to try and fit in with it. Many, MANY of us have made suggestions as to how you could communicate with us better, but you believe your way is the perfect way and are un-willing to change, for the better in my opinion.
I have tried to be civil with you Lou.. I have tried incredibly hard. But yesterday you decided to no longer be civil about me, and about friends I have here.
Nikki
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:04:43
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote,"Lou, you are a nasty piece of work."
Are you saying that:
A. I am a piece of God's work that is nasty?
B. I am a piece of what is worked out of the body?
c. something other than A or B which is______
D. none of the above.
E. Both of the above.
If you could clarify this, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:23:03
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote,"You deliberatly, and yes, I mean deliberatly, wind people up, again and again and again."
Could you clarify if you have some type of power to decern what is in my heart to accuse me of {deliberatly}[winding people up]and what "winding people up" means ? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly, for I am not deliberatly winding people up, if I understand what that expression has been used to mean in the past. It is my intention to respond to the invitation here to discuss administrative issues and the one in discussion now is important to me, for I feel that if the [...don't post to me...] policy is allowed here, that that policy could open the doors to discrimination, ostracisim, stigmatization and , perhaps, other things that I consider to be an unsound mental-health practice. The examples that I have given are designed to clarify the permeters of the proposed policy and they are hypothetical and the people in them are not real people.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:35:18
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote, "People ask you not to ask for clarification, and you say that they are rude and uncivil, but you think that you can get away with calling me Drippy??? or Beardedlady Wierd???"
Are you saying that I called you Drippy? I never called you anything, so could you clarify what you mean? And I never called beardedlady wierd, so are you accusing me of such?If so,could you clarify why you wrote that? If you could, then I could have the opoortunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:45:14
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote that I could not see a typo of yours that any {normal} person would have seen.
Are you saying that:
A. Lou is abnormal?
B. Lou is not normal?
C. normal people are defined by seeing if they can spot a typo?
D. Only people that can spot a typo can post here?
E. Some other thing which is________
F. none of the above
G. a combination of the above which is_____
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:56:47
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote, "My 4 year old nephew would be able to work out exactly who you were reffering to with your pseudonyms, so please, don't act so innocent."
Are you saying that:
A.your 4 year old nephew is smarter than me?
B.you are accusing me of {acting}innocent?
C.you are accusing me of using pseudonymes?
D.your 4 year old nephew can read?
E.none of the above
F.something different from the above which is____
G. a combination of the above which is____
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 12:09:32
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
NikkiT2,
You wrote, "I can't believe that you are denying this...you have been so openly offensive, that evryone here(and yes, I have recieved personal mressages to this effect) can see what you did."
Are you accusiing me of being openly offensive? If so, could you clarify what this open offense is? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Are you saying that {everyone} has written messages to you about me, or just a few, or some other amount of people? If you could clarify this, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Are you saying that I did something that others consider offensive? If so, what are these{others} saying that I did that was offensive? If you could identify and clarify such, then I could have the opportunuty to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by ayuda on April 14, 2003, at 12:41:43
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
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