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Posted by Tabi T. Ha :-) on July 31, 2002, at 13:01:05
In reply to ...it's all that sticky juice from fruit orgy (nm) » Dinah, posted by Ctrlaltndel:) on July 31, 2002, at 10:40:17
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 13:04:09
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week. LostBoyinNC1 » Phil, posted by kiddo on July 31, 2002, at 12:43:56
I took the initiative because nobody knew where Dr. Bob was. Dr. Bob's erased everything I posted and will probably erase the one week block on LostBoy. I was trying to help. I haven't received a thank you or a screw you. Does that answer your question? You won't have to worry about it again, I can promise you.
Posted by kiddo on July 31, 2002, at 13:06:35
In reply to Kiddo, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 13:04:09
I wasn't worried about it. I was asking a simple question.
Sheesh...
Posted by beardedlady on July 31, 2002, at 13:40:40
In reply to um, didn't you mean 'elusive'? (nm) » beardedlady, posted by Tabi T. Ha on July 31, 2002, at 12:53:18
Posted by shar on July 31, 2002, at 14:38:48
In reply to Uh-oh. » LostBoyinNC1, posted by beardedlady on July 31, 2002, at 5:36:19
When I think of the movements led in anger, the result seems to be war rather than change. Yes, war certainly does change things! But, I think the point at issue is positive change coming from anger.
An angry crowd taking an 'us vs. them' perspective is too volatile, imo, to lead to anything positive...at least until well after the riots have ended.
An angry crowd that quiets down to listen to Gandhi talk about a day of prayer, or passive resistance, has a much better chance of leading to positive change, imo. Gandhi, MLK...they stood against wrongdoing, and did what was right. And, imo, worked miracles. They did not come off as heart-attack bound enraged men, and I feel sure our world would be very different if they had.
Shar
P.S. I have counted 7 things in this post that would get me in trouble with my English teacher. I await my corrections. "Thank you, Mistress, may I have another?"
> Lostboy:
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> I agree with many points in your last post. (Okay, most of the them.) Had you said all this without name calling or accusations, you'd have won kudos and back pats (at least from a few of us).
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> A little anger is a good thing, and it is a catalyst for change. But Martin Luther King didn't bully people. (He didn't guilt them, either.)
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> Your post was well-written and articulate, emotionally charged and pretty right on target. The only thing missing was a little bit of compassion and the ability to turn accusation into something more innocuous. Oh--and the ever-illusive apostrophe. Add those things, and you'll be a force to be reckoned with.
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> beardy
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> > Oftentimes in society, the greatest social changes occur when people get angry and decide to do something about it. They go into politics, they write a book to voice their experiences and opinions on whats wrong with the system. They form political lobbying groups to foster changes they believe needs to occur. Anger can be a catalyst for change and its not always a bad thing, unlike how many mental health specialists would have you believe.
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> > Without anger, there would have been no civil rights movement in the sixties. There would have been no psychiatry reform movement in the sixties and seventies. Many social changes have occurred because a small group of people could see things fundamentally wrong with certain aspects of the system and became angry about it and wanted to change it.
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> > People who dont get angry are sheep. They are the passive codependents Ive complained about that habitate this board. Many successful people have anger problems and many times its the anger that motivates them to get things done (attorneys, politicians, corporate CEOs, etc). Many of them die young from cardiovascular disease as well. While it might not be pretty or fun for the people around an angry person, anger gets things done.
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> > If you want change, you must get angry. At least a little bit.
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> > LostBoyinNC
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Posted by beardedlady on July 31, 2002, at 14:50:46
In reply to I wonder 'bout anger n ware it gits usns, posted by shar on July 31, 2002, at 14:38:48
> P.S. I have counted 7 things in this post that would get me in trouble with my English teacher.
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 15:25:13
In reply to Re: Kiddo » Phil, posted by kiddo on July 31, 2002, at 13:06:35
Been a terrible day. Everything is going wrong. Work, personal no life, etc.
I apologize.
I think I'll get my .38 and go to the range and see if I can get my friend Roger to run back and forth at about 50 meters. Just kiddoing.
Posted by mair on July 31, 2002, at 16:18:43
In reply to Re: Kiddo my apologies, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 15:25:13
Hey Phil
Sorry to hear that you're down. I'm sure there is an employer or two out there who would tell you that having a personal life is way overrated. (-:
No posts have disappeared on my screen yet. It would be a shame if Bob wiped out your post on the need to use posting restraint. It's certainly a worthy and timely concept.
Thanks
Mair
Posted by Dinah on July 31, 2002, at 16:35:08
In reply to Kiddo, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 13:04:09
> I took the initiative because nobody knew where Dr. Bob was. Dr. Bob's erased everything I posted and will probably erase the one week block on LostBoy. I was trying to help. I haven't received a thank you or a screw you. Does that answer your question? You won't have to worry about it again, I can promise you.
You might not get one from Dr. Bob, but you get one from me. I appreciated your calls for moderation. He deleted my post too. :( And I didn't think there was anything deletable in that one either. I tried my best to be inoffensive. Oh, well, at least it wasn't a PBC.
Posted by kiddo on July 31, 2002, at 17:30:48
In reply to Re: Kiddo my apologies, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 15:25:13
Tis ok-
mine hasn't been the best either. I had a root canal done yesterday (first time) and it took 7 shots for them to numb me up. Now the pain killers they gave me feels like baby aspirin.
Know how ya feel :-)
Hope it gets better
Kiddo
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 18:19:33
In reply to Re: Kiddo my apologies » Phil, posted by mair on July 31, 2002, at 16:18:43
The only good I did was get Dr. Bob back and yes, several of my posts are gone but they didn't represent his policy either.
Let's just say I won't try to help anymore. Should have stuck to his policies.
If, I had a similar board. Nevermind.
Posted by shar on July 31, 2002, at 18:30:04
In reply to Maybe you need a better English teacher. » shar, posted by beardedlady on July 31, 2002, at 14:50:46
Posted by mair on July 31, 2002, at 21:37:35
In reply to Re: Mair, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 18:19:33
Phil
I'm not sure I know what you're talkiing about since none of your admin posts (at least those that I know about) have disappeared. Some don't show up at the bottom of messages, but I see them on the Board list.
I don't think you should be discouraged. I thought your post about restraint was a wonderful demonstration of the need for us all to realize that what we post on this Board may lead to further needless disruption (as oppose to the needful perhaps). I really had the sense that you posted that for the good of the Board as a whole. I have no idea what Bob thought of it - if his reaction was negative, i hope he explains that to you - I think he owes you an explanation.
I appreciated the sentiment behind your post and i don't think you should fault yourself for taking a stab at getting that message out when you did.
Mair
PS: Maybe Bob just doesn't like the idea of citizen arrests.
Posted by Dinah on July 31, 2002, at 21:45:25
In reply to But Phil, posted by mair on July 31, 2002, at 21:37:35
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> PS: Maybe Bob just doesn't like the idea of citizen arrests.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 31, 2002, at 22:48:22
In reply to snob v. elitist » janejj, posted by beardedlady on July 30, 2002, at 15:25:18
> SNOB !!!!!!
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> janejj> Maybe elitist is a better word.
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> beardyPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, thanks.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 31, 2002, at 22:59:00
In reply to Kiddo, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 13:04:09
> I took the initiative because nobody knew where Dr. Bob was. Dr. Bob's erased everything I posted and will probably erase the one week block on LostBoy. I was trying to help. I haven't received a thank you or a screw you.
Thank you. :-)
When things get too out of hand and I feel I need to delete some posts, I usually also delete any follow-ups, even if they're perfectly fine, because the "train of thought" of the thread would no longer make sense. Sorry to those of you who put time and effort -- and restraint! -- into them.
Bob
Posted by Cam W. on August 1, 2002, at 23:42:52
In reply to Kiddo, posted by Phil on July 31, 2002, at 13:04:09
Hey Kiddo - I'll give you one of each:
THANK YOU! ..........(said with sincerity)
screw you.. ..........(muffled because my tongue was in my check)
- Cam
Posted by kiddo on August 1, 2002, at 23:54:05
In reply to Re: Kiddo, posted by Cam W. on August 1, 2002, at 23:42:52
Thank ya (with sincerity)
and no thank ya (because I'm choking on my coffee!)
Kiddo
PS-Can you check your PM's please?
Posted by gingersnapped on August 5, 2002, at 19:31:03
In reply to Re: I'll PBC myself thank you!! ;).... sorry! (nm), posted by kid_A on July 30, 2002, at 11:18:26
That is a very common error but as you seem quite proud of your knowledge of language, I thought you might like to know that the word to which you were referring actually is derived from the Latin word Fuccant.
Posted by kid_A on August 6, 2002, at 9:44:51
In reply to Re: English- for unlawful carnal knowledge » kid_A, posted by gingersnapped on August 5, 2002, at 19:31:03
> That is a very common error but as you seem quite proud of your knowledge of language, I thought you might like to know that the word to which you were referring actually is derived from the Latin word Fuccant.
I did some research on this and found that yes, the acronym idea is a misconception. However the usage of the word predates the RECORDED usage of fuccant by several hundred years or so...
"The best guess is that "fXXk" comes from the Middle English fXXken, to strike, move quickly, penetrate, from the German ficken, meaning approximately the same thing. A related word may be the Middle Dutch fokken, to strike, copulate with."
...Here's a blurb about your origin:
"The first recorded usage of the actual word is from just prior to 1500, in a poem written in a hybrid of Latin and English entitled "Flen, flyys, and freris," (in English, "fleas, flies, and friars.")
Non svnt in celi qvia
fvccant wiuys of heli."anyways...
Posted by IsoM on August 6, 2002, at 14:03:56
In reply to Re: English- for unlawful carnal lostboy, posted by kid_A on August 6, 2002, at 9:44:51
Aww, kid_A, I love you! Run away with me. I can be your broke sugar-mamma.
I've known about the idea of 'for unlawful carnal knowledge' bit a long time but hardly thought it worth writing something to correct another over. But your gracious, erudite reply was worthy of commenting on. Bravo!
Fuccant is pseudo-Latin, not true Latin, much like -
"Sic semper tyrannus."
Your dinosaur is ill.
and
"Bodicus mutilatimus, unemploymi ad infinitum."
Better take the nose ring out before the job interview.The debate over the origin of f-u-c-k still rages & probably will never be completely decided but most have agreed that its origin comes from the Middle Dutch word "to strike". Interesting that almost all references to copulation refer to it as an act of thrusting, stabbing, striking & such - which is why my preferred term is "making love".
Posted by kid_A on August 6, 2002, at 15:15:23
In reply to Re: English- for unlawful carnal lostboy » kid_A, posted by IsoM on August 6, 2002, at 14:03:56
> Interesting that almost all references to copulation refer to it as an act of thrusting, stabbing, striking & such - which is why my preferred term is "making love".I always prefer my sex with as little love as possible... Though I'm man enough to admit that given the right woman the post-coital cuddling can be sweet... I just think that sex should be as dirty as our puritanical society thinks it is...
but, ive said too much. :)
Posted by gingersnapped on August 6, 2002, at 15:20:23
In reply to Re: English- for unlawful carnal lostboy » kid_A, posted by IsoM on August 6, 2002, at 14:03:56
I'm glad you took that in the way I meant for it to come across. I'm brand new here and have since realized this is not a board for even mentioning trivia. I also looked again at my first letter I was so nervous it looked absolutely curt.
I'm fascinated by language and word origins, and I'd noticed your talent with words, assumed you would be interested in that 'trivia, and I ended up learning something. Thanks for that and for not taking umbrage at what looked like a petty little jab.Al.
Posted by Cam W. on August 7, 2002, at 1:31:40
In reply to Re: Kiddo » Cam W., posted by kiddo on August 1, 2002, at 23:54:05
Kiddo - Sorry, been a little preoccupied lately. I have just answered PM. I'm not being a snob, just a mush brain. My new hobby is integrating gravity and quantum mechanics ... the math is bizarre, but I have a theory .... just need to check some major points for flaws.
Did you know that bundling and strain on three-dimensionally connected elipses can sort of look like superstrings and may be the source of pre-energy? The elipses may relieve some the extra dimension postulated by superstring and m-brane theories.
Okay, that even sounds bizarre to me ... but it fits .... sorta. I need to talk to a quantum physicist because I am sure that I must be leaving out some fundamental process that'll tumble my theory like a house of cards in a vaccuum.
The short answer ... my new hobby and my job have been distracting me from the sites I use to regularily frequent.
Yes, I think I need some sleep. - Cam
Posted by kiddo on August 7, 2002, at 1:44:50
In reply to Re: Kiddo » kiddo, posted by Cam W. on August 7, 2002, at 1:31:40
> Kiddo - Sorry, been a little preoccupied lately. I have just answered PM. I'm not being a snob, just a mush brain. My new hobby is integrating gravity and quantum mechanics ... the math is bizarre, but I have a theory .... just need to check some major points for flaws.
>Cool-Just got it :-) Will respond soon, k?
> Did you know that bundling and strain on three-dimensionally connected elipses can sort of look like superstrings and may be the source of pre-energy? The elipses may relieve some the extra dimension postulated by superstring and m-brane theories.
>Oh absolutely!!! You mean you didn't know that?? ;-) I haven't a clue what you said, but I know it's right because you just wouldn't post anything wrong!
> Okay, that even sounds bizarre to me ... but it fits .... sorta. I need to talk to a quantum physicist because I am sure that I must be leaving out some fundamental process that'll tumble my theory like a house of cards in a vaccuum.
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> The short answer ... my new hobby and my job have been distracting me from the sites I use to regularily frequent.
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> Yes, I think I need some sleep. - CamI hope things work out soon so we may be graced with your presence more often...take care,
Kiddo
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