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Posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:21:53
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by Hugh on December 15, 2015, at 9:32:48
> If the sleep terrors are caused by an adrenaline surge, then a beta blocker could help.
>
> The Atlantic published an article that describes how propranolol can be used to treat PTSD:
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/02/ending-the-nightmares-how-drug-treatment-could-finally-stop-ptsd/252079/
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> This story about using propranolol to treat PTSD was shown on 60 Minutes:
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> Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhK0EX4G018&feature=related
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> Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJ-NLSyS_w&NR=1The main reason why I was looking to differentiate between sleep terrors and PTSD is that prazosin can suppress nightmares in that disorder. I don't know if this is also true of prazosin in sleep terrors.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:56:33
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » Hugh, posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:21:53
> The main reason why I was looking to differentiate between sleep terrors and PTSD is that prazosin can suppress nightmares in that disorder. I don't know if this is also true of prazosin in sleep terrors.
What I wrote here is confusing.
prazosin = PTSD
propranalol = PTSD
propranalol = sleep terrorsPrazosin can often suppress nightmares in PTSD completely, as well as reduce daytime depression and anxiety. However, it does not erase or reduce the strenth of PTSD memories as the 60 Minutes video suggests occurs with propranolol. I hope propranolol also improves chronic daytime anxiety and depression in addition to acute episodes.
Very interesting.
- Scott
Posted by Escapee on December 15, 2015, at 19:56:44
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:56:33
Sorry if anyones already mentioned this, but sounds like Hypnogogic hallucinations/Hypnagogia, or thats the accepted theory anyway. Can be scarey. Feels like my brain wakens before my body. So creating the feeling of weight holding u down. Thus creating the feeling of someone/something in the room with u. Sometimes other hallucinations but Its usually just sensations (being held or pulled down). Somepeople get the opposit, like feeling weightless like flying. Or, i often have the sensation of striding huge distances but being unable to slow down. Theres a few i have to share.
Escapee
Posted by Escapee on December 15, 2015, at 20:13:10
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Escapee on December 15, 2015, at 19:56:44
Don't forget meds. Some meds are notorious for causing sleep disturbances. Trimipramine is one of the worst. Most SSRIs, but sertraline seems the worst. Agomelatine can be another culprit.
I've had hardly any such problems since adding quetiapine 250mg.
Of course the worst of the worst are sleep meds themselves! (or lack of)
Posted by Escapee on December 15, 2015, at 20:36:12
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:56:33
> > The main reason why I was looking to differentiate between sleep terrors and PTSD is that prazosin can suppress nightmares in that disorder. I don't know if this is also true of prazosin in sleep terrors.
>
> What I wrote here is confusing.
>
> prazosin = PTSD
>
> propranalol = PTSD
> propranalol = sleep terrors
>
> Prazosin can often suppress nightmares in PTSD completely, as well as reduce daytime depression and anxiety. However, it does not erase or reduce the strenth of PTSD memories as the 60 Minutes video suggests occurs with propranolol. I hope propranolol also improves chronic daytime anxiety and depression in addition to acute episodes.
>
> Very interesting.
>
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> - ScottInteresting indeed. I recently requested a beta blocker from my pdoc, purely to help lessen the 'visible symptoms' of my SA. Things like shaking, hyperventilation, fast heart beat, blushing & sweating, etc. I asked for propranolol. Instead he gave me pindolol, and added that it has a unique separate beneficial effect on anxiety
End of ramble...
Posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 21:53:05
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by Escapee on December 15, 2015, at 20:36:12
> Interesting indeed. I recently requested a beta blocker from my pdoc, purely to help lessen the 'visible symptoms' of my SA. Things like shaking, hyperventilation, fast heart beat, blushing & sweating, etc. I asked for propranolol. Instead he gave me pindolol, and added that it has a unique separate beneficial effect on anxiety
> End of ramble...Pindolol is a drug that has at least two pharmacological properties:
1. Norepinephrine beta receptor antagonist
2. Serotonin 1a receptor mixed agonist/antagonistPerhaps it is #2 that accounts for the effects your doctor describes.
- Scott
Posted by Escapee on December 16, 2015, at 15:57:00
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by SLS on December 15, 2015, at 10:56:33
> > The main reason why I was looking to differentiate between sleep terrors and PTSD is that prazosin can suppress nightmares in that disorder. I don't know if this is also true of prazosin in sleep terrors.
>
> What I wrote here is confusing.
>
> prazosin = PTSD
>
> propranalol = PTSD
> propranalol = sleep terrors
>
> Prazosin can often suppress nightmares in PTSD completely, as well as reduce daytime depression and anxiety. However, it does not erase or reduce the strenth of PTSD memories as the 60 Minutes video suggests occurs with propranolol. I hope propranolol also improves chronic daytime anxiety and depression in addition to acute episodes.
>
> Very interesting.
>
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> - ScottVery strange thing happening with pindolol. Especially in relation to the above. Were you saying the above meds can help PTSD?
Now I've only had a few doses.
I live with my father, who is a clinical hoarder! Cannot throw away thing if they remind him of the future. Things sit there and never get used. Dust on everything. Now, being the house I did most of my life (except school yrs). Now sinse starting pindolol I've starting gettin g dizzy spell especially If something reminds me of thing that happened there years ago.
Could this be PTSD working its way in? Sights and smells of the paqst are overpowering. Even a single thought of such things causes it. Seems extremely strong. Like the split second one of my thoughts will pop up. And the dizziness is extreme. More like vertigo. Its an instant reaction to a past event, but theres lots of triggers. Well, alot has happened in this house. many bad memories. All baggage Ive carried around seems to be coming back with a vengeance! Does any of that make sense?
Posted by Escapee on December 16, 2015, at 16:02:16
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by Escapee on December 16, 2015, at 15:57:00
> > > The main reason why I was looking to differentiate between sleep terrors and PTSD is that prazosin can suppress nightmares in that disorder. I don't know if this is also true of prazosin in sleep terrors.
> >
> > What I wrote here is confusing.
> >
> > prazosin = PTSD
> >
> > propranalol = PTSD
> > propranalol = sleep terrors
> >
> > Prazosin can often suppress nightmares in PTSD completely, as well as reduce daytime depression and anxiety. However, it does not erase or reduce the strenth of PTSD memories as the 60 Minutes video suggests occurs with propranolol. I hope propranolol also improves chronic daytime anxiety and depression in addition to acute episodes.
> >
> > Very interesting.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Very strange thing happening with pindolol. Especially in relation to the above. Were you saying the above meds can help PTSD?
> Now I've only had a few doses.
> I live with my father, who is a clinical hoarder! Cannot throw away thing if they remind him of the past. Things sit there and never get used. Dust on everything. Now, being the house I did most of my life (except school yrs). Now sinse starting pindolol I've starting gettin g dizzy spell especially If something reminds me of thing that happened there years ago.
> Could this be PTSD working its way in? Sights and smells of the paqst are overpowering. Even a single thought of such things causes it. Seems extremely strong. Like the split second one of my thoughts will pop up. And the dizziness is extreme. More like vertigo. Its an instant reaction to a past event, but theres lots of triggers. Well, alot has happened in this house. many bad memories. All baggage Ive carried around seems to be coming back with a vengeance! Does any of that make sense?
Posted by Escapee on December 16, 2015, at 16:27:04
In reply to Read this one the spelling is better, posted by Escapee on December 16, 2015, at 16:02:16
I have social anxiety disorder and i get the very same feeln when looking back at a recent embarrassing 'occurrence'. Spinning out. virtigo/emotional pain but which leaves within seconds.
Posted by mossybleu on January 8, 2016, at 22:40:25
In reply to Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by 4WD on May 17, 2005, at 22:21:29
Hello! I was just in tears reading your original post 4WD/Marsha. I have the SAME exact symptoms and I couldn't have explained it better. I am living a nightmare right now. I feel like I am in hell most of the day. The panic starts to lift some around 4 or 5. Sometimes I feel just fine in the evenings. But then I go to sleep and the nightmare starts all over the next day. I'm currently in a residential treatment facility and no one here (doctors) can figure out what is wrong with me. Does anyone have any leads or advice? I'm close to not being able to handle my symptoms anymore, but I don't want to go to the hospital. I may have to though. Please help if anyone has any clues. Thanks.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 9, 2016, at 9:14:01
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » 4WD, posted by mossybleu on January 8, 2016, at 22:40:25
> Hello! I was just in tears reading your original post 4WD/Marsha. I have the SAME exact symptoms and I couldn't have explained it better. I am living a nightmare right now. I feel like I am in hell most of the day. The panic starts to lift some around 4 or 5. Sometimes I feel just fine in the evenings. But then I go to sleep and the nightmare starts all over the next day. I'm currently in a residential treatment facility and no one here (doctors) can figure out what is wrong with me. Does anyone have any leads or advice? I'm close to not being able to handle my symptoms anymore, but I don't want to go to the hospital. I may have to though. Please help if anyone has any clues. Thanks.
m_b,
You wrote,[...living a nightmare...I am in hell...nightmares start all over...doctors can't figure out what is wrong with me...not being able to handle my symptoms...if anyone has any clues...].
It has been revealed to me that there are two realms that you could live in. One is the realm that you describe here, the realm of death. A living death. The question is how did you get there and can you be in another realm, as there is the realm of life.
Tragically, the chemicals that you have been given by a psychiatrist/doctor, alter the mind so that you could enter the realm of hell and be shackled there and the Gates of Hell could be locked behind you, enslaving you until you are killed by the drugs or get a life-ruining condition or addiction or be led to kill yourself and/or others along with you.
The drugs being promoted here as "medicines" kill thousands of people every month. The number of people alive and in the death state living in a hell outnumber those killed by the drugs as can be seen here of those that have not died yet from the drugs and tell of the state of being that they want to be delivered from. The prison that they are in has them chained to the psychiatrist/doctor that gives them the drugs that can keep them in the death realm until they die an early death as the chemicals in the drugs have constituents that are used in insecticides and chemicals used in the commission of mass-murder.
I am prohibited to post here by Mr. Hsiung the aspects historically of these chemicals that if you were to know what I am prohibited from posting by him, you could have a more-informed knowledge of these drugs and be better able to make more intelligent decisions concerning these drugs. You see, there is a Great Deception that Mr. Hsiung prohibits me to post about here about that IMHO could free you from the slavery of what you describe and be led into a new realm of life and peace and be delivered out of the darkness of the death realm.
This would come from a Jewish perspective that Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting here all the while him allowing the foundation of hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive where those posts are originally posted. His justification for doing such is that he has some type of vision that in the future his community will be good for the whole of it by him allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand unsanctioned so that readers could think that he is ratifying that hate. This is the same justification that Jew-haters have used for centuries to justify genocide. They say that their country will be good for the whole by committing mass-murder. It is the same justification for allowing slavery. Those justifying that slavery will be good for their country as a whole swayed people to swallow such hate on the basis that other's lives do not matter if they could have more profits from enslaving people. And do profits arise from addicting millions of people to mind-altering drugs that could lead to life-ruining conditions, addiction and death? What about those that have the death realm induced into them by the drugs so that they are shut out of life and joy and are shackled behind the Gates of Hell? Oh, the horrors of it all.
Lou
Posted by SLS on January 9, 2016, at 9:58:06
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » 4WD, posted by mossybleu on January 8, 2016, at 22:40:25
> Hello!
Hello!
I had asked a few questions earlier in the thread that might help others to advise you:
- Scott-----------------------------------------
Do you have a diagnosed mental illness of any sort? This would include depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, PTSD, etc.
Any physical medical conditions?
Current medications?
At what age did these terrors first appear?
At what time of night do you experience these terrors?
Do you wake up during the terror?
Do you have nightmare dreams that can be remembered?
Any history of childhood abuse or neglect?
Sorry for all of the questions.
Posted by Hugh on January 20, 2016, at 14:03:28
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » SLS, posted by Hugh on December 15, 2015, at 9:32:48
> If the sleep terrors are caused by an adrenaline surge, then a beta blocker could help.
>
> The Atlantic published an article that describes how propranolol can be used to treat PTSD:
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/02/ending-the-nightmares-how-drug-treatment-could-finally-stop-ptsd/252079/
>
> This story about using propranolol to treat PTSD was shown on 60 Minutes:
>
> Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhK0EX4G018&feature=related
>
> Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJ-NLSyS_w&NR=1Since submitting the above post, I've read that propranolol can disrupt sleep, so it's probably not a good idea to take it at bedtime. Atenolol would be a better beta blocker to take at bedtime. However, if sleep terrors are caused by PTSD, then taking propranolol on a temporary basis, in the manner described in the above links, could be quite helpful.
Posted by Hugh on February 14, 2016, at 20:50:15
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Hugh on January 20, 2016, at 14:03:28
The New York Times recently published an article about using the beta blocker propranolol to treat arachnophobia and PTSD. The article mentions that for PTSD, it appears that six sessions with propranolol while thinking or writing about a traumatic event appears to be the most effective way of using it. Here are some excerpts from the article:
Dr. Kindt assessed the subjects' anxiety when they were shown the spider the first time, then again three months later, and finally after a year. What she found was remarkable. Those who got the propranolol alone and those who got the placebo had no improvement in their anxiety. But the arachnophobes who were exposed to the spider and given the drug were able to touch the tarantula within days and, by three months, many felt comfortable holding the spider with their bare hands. Their fear did not return even at the end of one year.
How does this work? Well, propranolol blocks the effects of norepinephrine in the brain. This chemical, which is similar to adrenaline, enhances learning, so blocking it disrupts the way a memory is put back in storage after it is retrieved -- a process called reconsolidation.
These studies suggest that someday, a single dose of a drug, combined with exposure to your fear at the right moment, could free you of that fear forever. But there's a flip side to this story about how to undo emotional learning: how to strengthen it. We can do that with drugs as well, and may have been doing it for some time.
Anxiety enhances emotional memory. We all know that -- it's why you can easily forget where you put your wallet, but will never forget being attacked. This is the case because anxiety leads to the release of norepinephrine in the brain, which, again, strengthens emotional learning. It is also why we should think twice about casually prescribing stimulants like Ritalin and Adderall for young people who really dont need them. Stimulants also cause the release of norepinephrine and may enhance fear learning. So it is possible that taking stimulants could increase one's risk of developing PTSD when exposed to trauma.
Indeed, a study that will be published next month found that the escalating use of stimulants by the military in active duty soldiers, including those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, was strongly correlated with an increase in the rates of PTSD, even when controlling for other factors, like the rate of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. The study examined the use of prescription stimulants, like Ritalin and Adderall, and the rates of PTSD in nearly 26,000 military service members between 2001 and 2008, and found that the incidence of PTSD increased along with the prescriptions.
By blocking the effect of norepinephrine and disrupting memory reconsolidation, we could perhaps reverse this process. The clear implication of these studies is that emotional memory is not permanent after all.
Here is the complete article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/opinion/sunday/a-drug-to-cure-fear.html
Posted by Anna354 on February 22, 2016, at 21:17:06
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Hugh on February 14, 2016, at 20:50:15
I am also suffering from horrible morning terrors. Its like im still sleeping but im aware that something is horribly wrong and i want to start crying....but im still sleeping. .then i wake up and for a few minutes i dont know whats going on or why im so terrified. Its been happening since about June 2014. I have anxiety disorder depressed and have been on and off diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I take severed medications including clonazepam Wellbutrin seroquel and topomax. I previously took zyprexa but that was a change before this started happening and while it happened and i was switched to seroquel. The other 3 i have been on for more than 10 years. Whats changed is im Canadian and moved back here from the states just after this started happening. I also had Lyme disease for 6years. 3 drs and 2therapists cant tell me whats wrong. Im nearing the end of my rope with these terrors. I also take thyroid hormones. Im 44 and never had this happen before this except extreme seperation anxiety when i was a small child. It usually goes away within an hour of me waking up but its bothering me so much im afraid to sleep.
Posted by Anna354 on February 22, 2016, at 21:18:37
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Hugh on February 14, 2016, at 20:50:15
I am also suffering from horrible morning terrors. Its like im still sleeping but im aware that something is horribly wrong and i want to start crying....but im still sleeping. .then i wake up and for a few minutes i dont know whats going on or why im so terrified. Its been happening since about June 2014. I have anxiety disorder depressed and have been on and off diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I take severed medications including clonazepam Wellbutrin seroquel and topomax. I previously took zyprexa but that was a change before this started happening and while it happened and i was switched to seroquel. The other 3 i have been on for more than 10 years. Whats changed is im Canadian and moved back here from the states just after this started happening. I also had Lyme disease for 6years. 3 drs and 2therapists cant tell me whats wrong. Im nearing the end of my rope with these terrors. I also take thyroid hormones. Im 44 and never had this happen before this except extreme seperation anxiety when i was a small child. It usually goes away within an hour of me waking up but its bothering me so much im afraid to sleep.
Posted by Meltingpot on February 23, 2016, at 11:56:51
In reply to Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by 4WD on May 17, 2005, at 22:21:29
Hi,
I know you say you've tried APs but have you tried 10mg of Zyprexa when you are experiencing this terror. I had feelings of terror at work the other day, due to start up anxiety on Seroxat/Paxil, I took 10mg of Zyprexa, woke up feeling fine the next day and even better the day afterwards.
Denise
Posted by Anna354 on February 23, 2016, at 13:21:59
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Meltingpot on February 23, 2016, at 11:56:51
> Hi,
>
> I know you say you've tried APs but have you tried 10mg of Zyprexa when you are experiencing this terror. I had feelings of terror at work the other day, due to start up anxiety on Seroxat/Paxil, I took 10mg of Zyprexa, woke up feeling fine the next day and even better the day afterwards.
>
>
>
> DeniseHi yeah i had to stop taking zyprexa because it caused me such serious restless legs that i intermittently had to keep jumping up and pace. It drove me nuts i could hardly sleep and even tasks like driving were affected. I tied wearing a tens unit on my lower back to avert my mind ftom the rls feeling and i was overjoyed when my dr and i finally realized it was the cause.we thought i wss iron deficient. He has me on a large dose of seroquel at night that Knocks me out but also thedreams haven't changed from the zyprexa to the seroquel so i dont know what to think :(
Posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:43:44
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Meltingpot on February 23, 2016, at 11:56:51
> Hi,
>
> I know you say you've tried APs but have you tried 10mg of Zyprexa when you are experiencing this terror. I had feelings of terror at work the other day, due to start up anxiety on Seroxat/Paxil, I took 10mg of Zyprexa, woke up feeling fine the next day and even better the day afterwards.
>
>
Hi. The night terrors you talke about here is, i think, a different kind of 'terror' symptoms. Some have it just before waking whilst for some it happens when drifting off. But I don't mean to be-little your issues or symptoms in any way.
For me its almost always upon waking. There is a name for them- hypnogogic hallucinations.
I've had them on and off for years, but when it happens, no matter how much I try telling myself "it'll be over in a few seconds" and it really is a very short experience. Seconds. Yet its always been as bad as the last. And it often (not always) follows a bad dream, but not always.
What gets me most is its paralyzing effect. I try to move. Sometimes I can pull myself out of it. This often happens even when im feeling well.It can happen once in a blue moon or every day for weeks. Now i know there is no stopping it I've less fear of it happening because I've no choice. Still scary when it happens. Soon as I can move I sit upright strait away. Sometimes though, when its over its so tempting to go back to sleep. And if i do it often repeats. I gotta get up and stay up!Escapee
Posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:50:12
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » Meltingpot, posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:43:44
Perhapse im wrong. Thinking about it night terrors might be something else other than hypnogogic hallucinations. I have on occasion moved and even fought whilst asleep. Worst was when I gave my poor partner a black eye. Soon as I did it I awoke and knew exactly what id done. Very difficult to explane to people esp the victim!
Escapee
Posted by Anna354 on February 23, 2016, at 13:51:35
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » Meltingpot, posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:43:44
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know you say you've tried APs but have you tried 10mg of Zyprexa when you are experiencing this terror. I had feelings of terror at work the other day, due to start up anxiety on Seroxat/Paxil, I took 10mg of Zyprexa, woke up feeling fine the next day and even better the day afterwards.
> >
> >
> Hi. The night terrors you talke about here is, i think, a different kind of 'terror' symptoms. Some have it just before waking whilst for some it happens when drifting off. But I don't mean to be-little your issues or symptoms in any way.
> For me its almost always upon waking. There is a name for them- hypnogogic hallucinations.
> I've had them on and off for years, but when it happens, no matter how much I try telling myself "it'll be over in a few seconds" and it really is a very short experience. Seconds. Yet its always been as bad as the last. And it often (not always) follows a bad dream, but not always.
> What gets me most is its paralyzing effect. I try to move. Sometimes I can pull myself out of it. This often happens even when im feeling well.It can happen once in a blue moon or every day for weeks. Now i know there is no stopping it I've less fear of it happening because I've no choice. Still scary when it happens. Soon as I can move I sit upright strait away. Sometimes though, when its over its so tempting to go back to sleep. And if i do it often repeats. I gotta get up and stay up!
>
> Escapee
>
Hi
Yeah i had come across that hallucinations thing yesterday and wondered if that was what i was experiencing. I only get them in the morning and you're right they dont last long usually wheni get up its not longat all. Strangely i can wake in the middle of the night with no nightmare and go back to sleep just seems to be at my usual timeof getting up. I used to be able to be lazy and fall back asleep before theonset of these in 2014 but when i have them i have no choice but to get up. Is this a life phase or something? Anyone had it go away with no interference?
Posted by SLS on February 23, 2016, at 13:53:21
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this. » Meltingpot, posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:43:44
I wonder if prazosin would help. It definitely reduces markedly the intense nightmares associated with PTSD. Maybe you can look into it. The drug is an old antihypertensive that is inexpensive.
- Scott
Posted by Anna354 on February 23, 2016, at 13:54:48
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 13:50:12
Oh whoops! Yes i have been single since then too my ex had complained of me flailing and talking in my sleep now that i think about it
Posted by Anna354 on February 23, 2016, at 13:57:47
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by SLS on February 23, 2016, at 13:53:21
> I wonder if prazosin would help. It definitely reduces markedly the intense nightmares associated with PTSD. Maybe you can look into it. The drug is an old antihypertensive that is inexpensive.
>
>
> - ScottOh good idea I'll look into that one...I've definitely had a lot of traumatic incidents especially in the last 5years but never diagnosed with ptsd although i did consider that this could be stress related
Posted by Escapee on February 23, 2016, at 14:02:55
In reply to Re: Morning Terror. Please, please read this., posted by Anna354 on February 23, 2016, at 13:51:35
> Hi
> Yeah i had come across that hallucinations thing yesterday and wondered if that was what i was experiencing. I only get them in the morning and you're right they dont last long usually wheni get up its not longat all. Strangely i can wake in the middle of the night with no nightmare and go back to sleep just seems to be at my usual timeof getting up. I used to be able to be lazy and fall back asleep before theonset of these in 2014 but when i have them i have no choice but to get up. Is this a life phase or something? Anyone had it go away with no interference?
>
Perhaps when you wake in the night with no problems and go back to sleep, maybe its coz u've had your OWN optimal amount of sleep your own perfect amount of sleep. Just a thought but experiment maybe? Some people need very little sleep, yet they suffer when having a (supposedly) full recommended 8hrs. Many people live quite happily with 5hrs sleep. Just thinking out loud.
Escapee.
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