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Posted by schleprock on September 3, 2012, at 16:12:08
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-xanaxsuicide, posted by confused-in-TN on September 3, 2012, at 15:59:55
Actually, I believe that Lou's posts present some compelling evidence regarding why some people ought to STAY on their meds.
Posted by confused-in-TN on September 3, 2012, at 16:19:33
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-xanaxsuicide » confused-in-TN, posted by schleprock on September 3, 2012, at 16:12:08
> Actually, I believe that Lou's posts present some compelling evidence regarding why some people ought to STAY on their meds.
>you made me laugh for the first time today! Thanks!
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 3, 2012, at 16:56:44
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-xanaxsuicide, posted by confused-in-TN on September 3, 2012, at 15:59:55
> Lou, I apprrecite your concern about medications, but you seem a little obsessed. If you don 't approve/believe in their use and or effectiveness that 's certainly your right. But why are you seemingly intent on trying to scare people out of trying something that could help? As someone posting on this thread said, you seem to think the brain is the only organ that can 't get sick. Don 't want to come across as judgemental, but if you are so Anti - medication, why do you post so much on the medication portion of this site? Best wishes to you, honestly.
confused in TN,
You wrote,[...trying to scare people out of trying something that could help...so Anti-medication...why do you post (here on the medication board)...?].
The forum is for support and education. Support is not the same as {reinforcement}. Education iMHO can bring a new life, free from addiction and depression. You see, I know what causes depression and how one can make depression flee from them. and I know that psychotropic drugs can cause depression (see link at bottom). Not only that, but the drugs can cause one to kill themselves and/or others and even cause one to commit mass-murder.
Now for people to try to come out of depression by taking a drug that can cause depression doesn't seem logical to me. And to tell someone that is suicidal to take a drug that can increase suicidal thinking is not logical to me.
I am not Anti-medication, I am anti-death. I want the children to live and parents can read here to make a more informed decision as to drug their son, their daughter, or not, by reading what I post as well as the posts here by those advocating mind-altering drugs to be used. So I am a children's advocate by attempting to educate the parents that read here concerning what these drugs can do to their child.
Then there is the aspect that posts here that can arouse antisemitic feelings could be seen by some as being supportive. This could IMHO be dangerous to Jews as they could become victims of antisemitic violence as people reading could think that Jews are inferior and be targeted for murder by one that is in a drug-induced murderous rampage. You see, I know how these drugs induce homocidal thinking and how when one is in a community that permits statements that could arouse antsemitic feelings as being supportive, and members take the drugs, then they could think that they are doing what could be good for the community by harming or even murdering a Jew. The harm could be psychological or emotional harm inflicted toward them by ridicule, defamation, taunting and mocking and other bullying tactics. If you view the admin board here, you could post there to continue a discussion in relation to that.
So by me offering educational material, of which a lot is prohibited to me to post here by Mr Hsiung, I could have a hand in attempting to stop those that accept those type of statements here as being supportive, for Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence here. Support for what? You can see an example of this by going to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in[admin, 428781] you will see Lou's request to Dr Hsiung in the first 6 or so posts that come up and the 428781 is in the colord strip
Lou
here is the link that shows that xanax can cause depression
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/depression
Posted by confused-in-TN on September 3, 2012, at 22:16:03
In reply to Lou's reply-partial » confused-in-TN, posted by Lou Pilder on September 3, 2012, at 16:56:44
> > Lou, I apprrecite your concern about medications, but you seem a little obsessed. If you don 't approve/believe in their use and or effectiveness that 's certainly your right. But why are you seemingly intent on trying to scare people out of trying something that could help? As someone posting on this thread said, you seem to think the brain is the only organ that can 't get sick. Don 't want to come across as judgemental, but if you are so Anti - medication, why do you post so much on the medication portion of this site? Best wishes to you, honestly.
>
> confused in TN,
> You wrote,[...trying to scare people out of trying something that could help...so Anti-medication...why do you post (here on the medication board)...?].
> The forum is for support and education. Support is not the same as {reinforcement}. Education iMHO can bring a new life, free from addiction and depression. You see, I know what causes depression and how one can make depression flee from them. and I know that psychotropic drugs can cause depression (see link at bottom). Not only that, but the drugs can cause one to kill themselves and/or others and even cause one to commit mass-murder.
> Now for people to try to come out of depression by taking a drug that can cause depression doesn't seem logical to me. And to tell someone that is suicidal to take a drug that can increase suicidal thinking is not logical to me.
> I am not Anti-medication, I am anti-death. I want the children to live and parents can read here to make a more informed decision as to drug their son, their daughter, or not, by reading what I post as well as the posts here by those advocating mind-altering drugs to be used. So I am a children's advocate by attempting to educate the parents that read here concerning what these drugs can do to their child.
> Then there is the aspect that posts here that can arouse antisemitic feelings could be seen by some as being supportive. This could IMHO be dangerous to Jews as they could become victims of antisemitic violence as people reading could think that Jews are inferior and be targeted for murder by one that is in a drug-induced murderous rampage. You see, I know how these drugs induce homocidal thinking and how when one is in a community that permits statements that could arouse antsemitic feelings as being supportive, and members take the drugs, then they could think that they are doing what could be good for the community by harming or even murdering a Jew. The harm could be psychological or emotional harm inflicted toward them by ridicule, defamation, taunting and mocking and other bullying tactics. If you view the admin board here, you could post there to continue a discussion in relation to that.
> So by me offering educational material, of which a lot is prohibited to me to post here by Mr Hsiung, I could have a hand in attempting to stop those that accept those type of statements here as being supportive, for Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence here. Support for what? You can see an example of this by going to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in[admin, 428781] you will see Lou's request to Dr Hsiung in the first 6 or so posts that come up and the 428781 is in the colord strip
> Lou
> here is the link that shows that xanax can cause depression
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/depression
> Lou, you lost me on this one. Psychotropic drugs are dangerous because people will become antisemites land go on murderous rampages!?. Surely you don 't really believe that. Please take this the right way when I say I think you need some help other than what you might be getting. I mean no disrespect.
Posted by Willful on September 4, 2012, at 0:32:32
In reply to Lou's reply-partial » confused-in-TN, posted by Lou Pilder on September 3, 2012, at 16:56:44
Lou, could you just move on.
Obviously your "help" is not helping here. You are just putting a burden onto someone who is already coping with the realization she's suffering from a permanent loss-- and that she's going to have to go forward alone.
Could you please have the decency to leave this thread with a little grace and kindness, rather than to continuing your barrage?
There are people here who may be able to offer some real support and response.
So kindly let that happen without interference.
Posted by confused-in-TN on September 4, 2012, at 4:43:31
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-partial, posted by Willful on September 4, 2012, at 0:32:32
> Lou, could you just move on.
>
> Obviously your "help" is not helping here. You are just putting a burden onto someone who is already coping with the realization she's suffering from a permanent loss-- and that she's going to have to go forward alone.
>
> Could you please have the decency to leave this thread with a little grace and kindness, rather than to continuing your barrage?
>
> There are people here who may be able to offer some real support and response.
>
> So kindly let that happen without interference.
>
> Thanks for stepping in. The verbal sparring was getting
tiring. My life is upsidedown and I could use helpful comments. This stuff (anxiety and depression) were hard to take with a partner....alone is really bad. Thanks again.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 5:49:29
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-partial, posted by confused-in-TN on September 3, 2012, at 22:16:03
> > > Lou, I apprrecite your concern about medications, but you seem a little obsessed. If you don 't approve/believe in their use and or effectiveness that 's certainly your right. But why are you seemingly intent on trying to scare people out of trying something that could help? As someone posting on this thread said, you seem to think the brain is the only organ that can 't get sick. Don 't want to come across as judgemental, but if you are so Anti - medication, why do you post so much on the medication portion of this site? Best wishes to you, honestly.
> >
> > confused in TN,
> > You wrote,[...trying to scare people out of trying something that could help...so Anti-medication...why do you post (here on the medication board)...?].
> > The forum is for support and education. Support is not the same as {reinforcement}. Education iMHO can bring a new life, free from addiction and depression. You see, I know what causes depression and how one can make depression flee from them. and I know that psychotropic drugs can cause depression (see link at bottom). Not only that, but the drugs can cause one to kill themselves and/or others and even cause one to commit mass-murder.
> > Now for people to try to come out of depression by taking a drug that can cause depression doesn't seem logical to me. And to tell someone that is suicidal to take a drug that can increase suicidal thinking is not logical to me.
> > I am not Anti-medication, I am anti-death. I want the children to live and parents can read here to make a more informed decision as to drug their son, their daughter, or not, by reading what I post as well as the posts here by those advocating mind-altering drugs to be used. So I am a children's advocate by attempting to educate the parents that read here concerning what these drugs can do to their child.
> > Then there is the aspect that posts here that can arouse antisemitic feelings could be seen by some as being supportive. This could IMHO be dangerous to Jews as they could become victims of antisemitic violence as people reading could think that Jews are inferior and be targeted for murder by one that is in a drug-induced murderous rampage. You see, I know how these drugs induce homocidal thinking and how when one is in a community that permits statements that could arouse antsemitic feelings as being supportive, and members take the drugs, then they could think that they are doing what could be good for the community by harming or even murdering a Jew. The harm could be psychological or emotional harm inflicted toward them by ridicule, defamation, taunting and mocking and other bullying tactics. If you view the admin board here, you could post there to continue a discussion in relation to that.
> > So by me offering educational material, of which a lot is prohibited to me to post here by Mr Hsiung, I could have a hand in attempting to stop those that accept those type of statements here as being supportive, for Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence here. Support for what? You can see an example of this by going to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in[admin, 428781] you will see Lou's request to Dr Hsiung in the first 6 or so posts that come up and the 428781 is in the colord strip
> > Lou
> > here is the link that shows that xanax can cause depression
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/depression
> > Lou, you lost me on this one. Psychotropic drugs are dangerous because people will become antisemites land go on murderous rampages!?. Surely you don 't really believe that. Please take this the right way when I say I think you need some help other than what you might be getting. I mean no disrespect.
>
> confused in TN,
You wrote,[...Psychotropic drugs are dangerous because people will become antisemities and go on murderous rampages?....].
What is that we have here is what it is. It is a {community} governed and enforced by a {community leader} and his deputies. When in a community, the community members can be controlled in their thinking by the administration of the community. The administartive leaders and deputies can controll the content by sanctioning or not what is promulgated and thearby foster a type of thinking that the administartion wants to preveail. This can be done by force, fear and intimidation, just to use one historical tactic type. There are other ways besides that to controll the thought of community members. One can read how slavery was established and how those opposed reacted. Segregation is another topic in the historical record used to control community members.
Now once the community members are controlled by the administration by whatever tactics used, then the community members could think that they will be doing good if they carry out the wishes of the community leaders. This happened way before 1933 and continues after 1945.
Now you may have a better understnding here of whats goin' on if you read the following.
Lou
Here the community leader and his deputies make what to me is a {pledge} to controll the content by having a policy. But what can happen when the community leaders do not live up to their word to follow their own policy? If you could spend some time looking at my outstanding requests on the admin board here, you could have further insight concerning this and if not you could post any requests for clarification there so that I could respond to you there.
Here is a link concerning my outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung and his stated policy.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/699224.html
if this is the incorrect link, try
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20061018/msgs/699224.html
But let us go onj. In order to undertsnad what some of my concerns are here you may need to do a search on what is known as {anti-Judaism}
But here is a link that explains how one aspect of anti-Judaism was acted out in 1492.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
and then,
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20060802/msgs/678024.html
Now this is just a small part of how communities can arouse antisemitic feelings. I am prohibited here by the nature of prohibitions posted to me by Mr Hsiung to show you the depth of this here and how IMHO Jews could be in danger of being victims of antisemitic violence, be it physical or psychologically or emotionally. You see, when the content is controlled here, and support is supposed to take precedence, then what is left as a fire to burn because statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings are allowed to stand, then at least IMHO the less-confident member could think that what is left unsanctioned is supportive and will be good for the community as a whole becuae Mr. Hsiung states that he does what in his thinking will be good for the community as a whole, and to try to trust him. Do you know who also said that?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/2012228/msgs/1020581.html
Posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 5:51:02
In reply to Lou's reply-partial » confused-in-TN, posted by Lou Pilder on September 3, 2012, at 16:56:44
Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 6:35:35
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-partial » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 5:51:02
> Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
>
> Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
>
>
> - ScottScott,
You wrote about the website, ehealthme.
Here is their home page that describes {about us}. The page lists those that endorse the site including the Mayo Clinic. The statement concerning their mission is there and how they do what they do.
Now I have a great knowlege of statistics. In fact, my knowlege here could be way beyond anyone elses' knowlege here concerning how statistics are used and collected. I have taken graduate statistics and have a great appreciation for what the site owners have done with their site.
You may have to answer to their lawyers for what you wrote here about them.
I am asking Mr. Hsiung, if he reads this, to delete your statements about the site, ehealthme. They can not know of what you wrote here about them and thearfore can not post a response to you, but someone may forward to them what you wrote about them.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus/#citation
Posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 7:09:31
In reply to Lou's reply-dhepham » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 6:35:35
> I am asking Mr. Hsiung, if he reads this, to delete your statements about the site, ehealthme.
Am I less priveleged to voice an opinion than are you?I have NEVER asked that any of your posts be deleted.
Please post for me a statistic published on ehealthme that represents a rate of occurrence of the effects they list. Don't you think that this should be within the capabilities of the statisticians on that website? As the most accomplished statistician on Psycho-Babble, I'm sure you can appreciate the desirability of such a statistic. I'm surprised you missed this oversight.
- Scott
Posted by zazenducke on September 4, 2012, at 7:17:49
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-dhepham » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 7:09:31
you seemed to have lost the plot
Posted by zazenducke on September 4, 2012, at 7:30:23
In reply to major depression and anxiety has taken hold hard, posted by confused-in-TN on August 31, 2012, at 10:22:21
I'm so sorry for your loss. That must have been traumatic. I know that antidepressants can convert a single episode of depression into chronic treatment resistant depression while untreated depression has a greater likelihood of resolving itself and not recurring. ( I realize that you are not taking ADs) But I wonder if being so medicated is actually preventing grief from resolving and just suppressing it and making it chronic. To address panic behavioraly you have to feel the panic and experience it subside rather than medicate it into submission. Maybe grief is the same.
Of course I would urge you not to take medical advice from anyone on the internet including me!
Posted by confused-in-TN on September 4, 2012, at 7:46:09
In reply to Re: major depression and anxiety has taken hold hard » confused-in-TN, posted by zazenducke on September 4, 2012, at 7:30:23
> I'm so sorry for your loss. That must have been traumatic. I know that antidepressants can convert a single episode of depression into chronic treatment resistant depression while untreated depression has a greater likelihood of resolving itself and not recurring. ( I realize that you are not taking ADs) But I wonder if being so medicated is actually preventing grief from resolving and just suppressing it and making it chronic. To address panic behavioraly you have to feel the panic and experience it subside rather than medicate it into submission. Maybe grief is the same.
>
> Of course I would urge you not to take medical advice from anyone on the internet including me!>I have wondered the same thing about meds suppressing grief or at least blunting feelings. Hard to say as I was on meds before all this happened. Never have been good at allowing myself to experience things (like panic, deprression or grief) and riding it out. Scares me to much...ironic in a way huh? Thanks for the "intervention " with Lou. He was wearing on me. And p.s. I don 't think you lost the plot. Have a good day.
Posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 10:25:29
In reply to Any support /education for confusedinTN scottie? » SLS, posted by zazenducke on September 4, 2012, at 7:17:49
Posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 10:57:26
In reply to Lou's reply-partial-ahnntighjudehyizm » confused-in-TN, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 5:49:29
> > > > Lou, I apprrecite your concern about medications, but you seem a little obsessed. If you don 't approve/believe in their use and or effectiveness that 's certainly your right. But why are you seemingly intent on trying to scare people out of trying something that could help? As someone posting on this thread said, you seem to think the brain is the only organ that can 't get sick. Don 't want to come across as judgemental, but if you are so Anti - medication, why do you post so much on the medication portion of this site? Best wishes to you, honestly.
> > >
> > > confused in TN,
> > > You wrote,[...trying to scare people out of trying something that could help...so Anti-medication...why do you post (here on the medication board)...?].
> > > The forum is for support and education. Support is not the same as {reinforcement}. Education iMHO can bring a new life, free from addiction and depression. You see, I know what causes depression and how one can make depression flee from them. and I know that psychotropic drugs can cause depression (see link at bottom). Not only that, but the drugs can cause one to kill themselves and/or others and even cause one to commit mass-murder.
> > > Now for people to try to come out of depression by taking a drug that can cause depression doesn't seem logical to me. And to tell someone that is suicidal to take a drug that can increase suicidal thinking is not logical to me.
> > > I am not Anti-medication, I am anti-death. I want the children to live and parents can read here to make a more informed decision as to drug their son, their daughter, or not, by reading what I post as well as the posts here by those advocating mind-altering drugs to be used. So I am a children's advocate by attempting to educate the parents that read here concerning what these drugs can do to their child.
> > > Then there is the aspect that posts here that can arouse antisemitic feelings could be seen by some as being supportive. This could IMHO be dangerous to Jews as they could become victims of antisemitic violence as people reading could think that Jews are inferior and be targeted for murder by one that is in a drug-induced murderous rampage. You see, I know how these drugs induce homocidal thinking and how when one is in a community that permits statements that could arouse antsemitic feelings as being supportive, and members take the drugs, then they could think that they are doing what could be good for the community by harming or even murdering a Jew. The harm could be psychological or emotional harm inflicted toward them by ridicule, defamation, taunting and mocking and other bullying tactics. If you view the admin board here, you could post there to continue a discussion in relation to that.
> > > So by me offering educational material, of which a lot is prohibited to me to post here by Mr Hsiung, I could have a hand in attempting to stop those that accept those type of statements here as being supportive, for Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence here. Support for what? You can see an example of this by going to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in[admin, 428781] you will see Lou's request to Dr Hsiung in the first 6 or so posts that come up and the 428781 is in the colord strip
> > > Lou
> > > here is the link that shows that xanax can cause depression
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/depression
> > > Lou, you lost me on this one. Psychotropic drugs are dangerous because people will become antisemites land go on murderous rampages!?. Surely you don 't really believe that. Please take this the right way when I say I think you need some help other than what you might be getting. I mean no disrespect.
> >
> > confused in TN,
> You wrote,[...Psychotropic drugs are dangerous because people will become antisemities and go on murderous rampages?....].
> What is that we have here is what it is. It is a {community} governed and enforced by a {community leader} and his deputies. When in a community, the community members can be controlled in their thinking by the administration of the community. The administartive leaders and deputies can controll the content by sanctioning or not what is promulgated and thearby foster a type of thinking that the administartion wants to preveail. This can be done by force, fear and intimidation, just to use one historical tactic type. There are other ways besides that to controll the thought of community members. One can read how slavery was established and how those opposed reacted. Segregation is another topic in the historical record used to control community members.
> Now once the community members are controlled by the administration by whatever tactics used, then the community members could think that they will be doing good if they carry out the wishes of the community leaders. This happened way before 1933 and continues after 1945.
> Now you may have a better understnding here of whats goin' on if you read the following.
> Lou
> Here the community leader and his deputies make what to me is a {pledge} to controll the content by having a policy. But what can happen when the community leaders do not live up to their word to follow their own policy? If you could spend some time looking at my outstanding requests on the admin board here, you could have further insight concerning this and if not you could post any requests for clarification there so that I could respond to you there.
> Here is a link concerning my outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung and his stated policy.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/699224.html
> if this is the incorrect link, try
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20061018/msgs/699224.html
> But let us go onj. In order to undertsnad what some of my concerns are here you may need to do a search on what is known as {anti-Judaism}
> But here is a link that explains how one aspect of anti-Judaism was acted out in 1492.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> and then,
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20060802/msgs/678024.html
> Now this is just a small part of how communities can arouse antisemitic feelings. I am prohibited here by the nature of prohibitions posted to me by Mr Hsiung to show you the depth of this here and how IMHO Jews could be in danger of being victims of antisemitic violence, be it physical or psychologically or emotionally. You see, when the content is controlled here, and support is supposed to take precedence, then what is left as a fire to burn because statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings are allowed to stand, then at least IMHO the less-confident member could think that what is left unsanctioned is supportive and will be good for the community as a whole becuae Mr. Hsiung states that he does what in his thinking will be good for the community as a whole, and to try to trust him. Do you know who also said that?
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/2012228/msgs/1020581.html
>
>
>
>Lou, do you actually keep track of every single post you've made? One of those links is to a post that is 10 years old, for christ's sake.
Posted by 10derheart on September 4, 2012, at 13:03:45
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-partial » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 5:51:02
Well and concisely said and I couldn't agree more.
Why am I not surprised you are the author of this post? ;-)
<sigh> I feel frustrated so I stay away.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:15:04
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-partial » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 5:51:02
This forum is falling apart thanks to Lou Pilder. Countless topics are bombarded my repetetive agenda driven posts which often resemble spam.
This is a medical forum and people are seeking medical help for serious mental conditions. People die every single day from such conditions and we have Lou Pilder causing tremendous harm with his exaggerations and playing loose with the facts.
His posts constantly consist of negative anti-medical nonsense and offer no viable alternative for those whom are clinically ill and in need of serious help.
Even I sometimes cannot stand to post on this forum because this individual is turning this place into such a mess.
Why is nothing ever done? Is Dr. Bob willing to do anything about it?
> Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
>
> Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:18:30
In reply to Lou's reply-dhepham » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 6:35:35
Lou Pilder your posts have reached a new low. Threatening SLS with lawyers?You encourage people to stop taking their medications despite the advice given to them by their doctors. What you do is more worthy of being looked into by any ''lawyers''.
You constantly spam this forum and cause nothing but vitrol.
> > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> >
> > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Scott,
> You wrote about the website, ehealthme.
> Here is their home page that describes {about us}. The page lists those that endorse the site including the Mayo Clinic. The statement concerning their mission is there and how they do what they do.
> Now I have a great knowlege of statistics. In fact, my knowlege here could be way beyond anyone elses' knowlege here concerning how statistics are used and collected. I have taken graduate statistics and have a great appreciation for what the site owners have done with their site.
> You may have to answer to their lawyers for what you wrote here about them.
> I am asking Mr. Hsiung, if he reads this, to delete your statements about the site, ehealthme. They can not know of what you wrote here about them and thearfore can not post a response to you, but someone may forward to them what you wrote about them.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus/#citation
Posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 20:26:13
In reply to Stop threatening forum members » Lou Pilder, posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:18:30
Alright, who wants to take a stab at this. Remember, be professional.
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 20:37:40
In reply to Re: Lou's diagnosis?, posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 20:26:13
He doesn't get it Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
In reply to I absolutely agree. Lou is causing harm » SLS, posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:15:04
> This forum is falling apart thanks to Lou Pilder. Countless topics are bombarded my repetetive agenda driven posts which often resemble spam.
>
> This is a medical forum and people are seeking medical help for serious mental conditions. People die every single day from such conditions and we have Lou Pilder causing tremendous harm with his exaggerations and playing loose with the facts.
>
> His posts constantly consist of negative anti-medical nonsense and offer no viable alternative for those whom are clinically ill and in need of serious help.
>
> Even I sometimes cannot stand to post on this forum because this individual is turning this place into such a mess.
>
> Why is nothing ever done? Is Dr. Bob willing to do anything about it?
>
>
> > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> >
> > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
>Friends,
It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside; It's not one that I can easily hide.
You see, many of you already know that I see two roads to go on when you are lost and troubled. There is the broad road of {human achievement} with so many ways to go. You could go on the high road, or the low road, or in the fast lane or slow lane. You could ride a bike, drive a motorcycle, leave on a jet plane, take the fast train. You could go on the subway, take a taxi anyway, but you do not need a helicopter to know which way the road goes. You could fall down a manhole and light yourself a candle, you could hitch a ride and then deceide anyway you want to go. There are so many ways on the road of human achievement.
But there is another road. It is a narrow path that I am talking about. And this path is so narrow that onjly one person can be on it. You have to go alone. And the path is so narrow that you have no choice as to where you are going, you can not get off, you can not change paths, you can not turn back. Sounds like a scary road, for there is darkness on that road and only a small lamp is at your feet. But that lamp has a light that could take you to Paradise. Not someware in outer space but within you. Today you could be in Paradise. You could be freed from the shakles of depression and addiction. You could be free from death. You could be free from worry and drad and dispair. You could mend a broken heart.
And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, I asked where this road is and who can go on it and He said to me, "The rightious cry out and the Lord hears. And dekivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such that have a contrite spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous.But the Lord delivers him out of them all. The Lord redeems the souls of His servants and none of those that trust in Him shall be condemned. Now go the way. Go to the narrow road for many will go to the broad road, but some will seek the narrow road and few there be that find it."
Lou
Posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 22:36:39
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
> > This forum is falling apart thanks to Lou Pilder. Countless topics are bombarded my repetetive agenda driven posts which often resemble spam.
> >
> > This is a medical forum and people are seeking medical help for serious mental conditions. People die every single day from such conditions and we have Lou Pilder causing tremendous harm with his exaggerations and playing loose with the facts.
> >
> > His posts constantly consist of negative anti-medical nonsense and offer no viable alternative for those whom are clinically ill and in need of serious help.
> >
> > Even I sometimes cannot stand to post on this forum because this individual is turning this place into such a mess.
> >
> > Why is nothing ever done? Is Dr. Bob willing to do anything about it?
> >
> >
> > > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> > >
> > > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> >
>
> Friends,
> It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside; It's not one that I can easily hide.
> You see, many of you already know that I see two roads to go on when you are lost and troubled. There is the broad road of {human achievement} with so many ways to go. You could go on the high road, or the low road, or in the fast lane or slow lane. You could ride a bike, drive a motorcycle, leave on a jet plane, take the fast train. You could go on the subway, take a taxi anyway, but you do not need a helicopter to know which way the road goes. You could fall down a manhole and light yourself a candle, you could hitch a ride and then deceide anyway you want to go. There are so many ways on the road of human achievement.
> But there is another road. It is a narrow path that I am talking about. And this path is so narrow that onjly one person can be on it. You have to go alone. And the path is so narrow that you have no choice as to where you are going, you can not get off, you can not change paths, you can not turn back. Sounds like a scary road, for there is darkness on that road and only a small lamp is at your feet. But that lamp has a light that could take you to Paradise. Not someware in outer space but within you. Today you could be in Paradise. You could be freed from the shakles of depression and addiction. You could be free from death. You could be free from worry and drad and dispair. You could mend a broken heart.
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, I asked where this road is and who can go on it and He said to me, "The rightious cry out and the Lord hears. And dekivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such that have a contrite spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous.But the Lord delivers him out of them all. The Lord redeems the souls of His servants and none of those that trust in Him shall be condemned. Now go the way. Go to the narrow road for many will go to the broad road, but some will seek the narrow road and few there be that find it."
> LouI think this is his first post where he didn't use the word "prohibitions"
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 23:28:19
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
Lou this reminds me of Scott Peck's "The Road Less Traveled" But there is a junction in the road and the Traveler has an option of which road he wishes to travel and he will chose a path maybe not the one you choose but he is the one to choose the traveler. Phillipa
Posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
...
There is a road, no simple highway,
Between the dawn and the dark of night,
And if you go no one may follow,
That path is for your steps alone.Ripple in still water,
When there is no pebble tossed,
Nor wind to blow.You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then whos to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home. ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY
Posted by zazenducke on September 5, 2012, at 7:05:17
In reply to Re: Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
Let it be known there is a fountain,
That was not made by the hands of men.
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