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Posted by cmorhoun on February 3, 2009, at 11:45:07
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 2, 2009, at 21:15:15
Neurontin - remember that it can take some time to adjust to meds. I understand how hard this is when one is severely sensitive and also in extreme mental pain.
Lexapro - keep in mind that stress/depression can be just as detrimental to your health, if not more so, than anything an SSRI or other can do to you. It sounds like you may have at least been feeling better when on an AD versus the meds you take now. The drinking and smoking is an easy fix...don't do it. There are plenty of other types of ADs to try other than SSRIs. The TCAs are generally great for sleep. Remeron is famous for sleepy, Strattera, even Wellbutrin, can make people tired (both did for me), Lithium, etc. There are many many options to try.
Stimulants - I know the concept of taking a stimulant seems wrong when sleep or anxiety is an issue but I think you would be pleasantly surprised. Ive always been a terrible sleeper and I sleep better when taking a stimulant than when taking any other type of med. Again, I am also ridiculously sensetive to meds and I've handled stimulants very well by just taking small doses. Don't be afraid to at least try them.
I would again, encourage you to find a good amino acid supplement right away. From there, research some alternate meds to try.
I think you and I are very similar in ways. I too went through the stress of being afraid of meds because of health issues. Your afraid of meds, your sensitive to meds, they don't seem to help and even if they did, they may do long term damage....I know that self serving prophecy type hell. I finally accepted that nothing compares to the damage that depression does to ones physical and mental mind (and body). The body has an amazing capacity to heal itself over time. Effects from drugs can be healed but not when one is constantly depressed. Try to stop compounding your stress and aggravation by worrying about long term effects of drugs right now and focus on getting some relief.
Posted by G-man885858 on February 3, 2009, at 17:12:20
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by cmorhoun on February 3, 2009, at 11:45:07
I am not against meds. I do not have Drugophobia, I am just very careful and weary of them. Right now, I take Seroquel 300mg, Klonopin 1mg, ambien 10mg, and lopressor 10mg all at the same time before bed.
What specific type of amino acids do you take?
My doc gave me a "free form amino acid powder" to try, but when I tried it it was REALLY stimulating and that scared me out of trying it again. But I think I will try it again sometime soon, because the first time I tried it there were many other concurrent problems going on that may have aggravated the side effects.Sincerely,
G-man
Posted by garnet71 on February 3, 2009, at 21:38:36
In reply to Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on January 31, 2009, at 0:22:56
Hi Gman, just me again.
I read where you told us you had a wheat allergy (Celiac disease?). I wonder if the intestinal dysfunction that results from Celiac prevents your body from absorbing and processing essential nutrients when you are growing and your brain is developing?
I forgot to mention - when you are in despair - be on the lookout for angels. I don't mean angels in a religious sense. For that matter, I don't think one religion is any better than all the others...Angels are not special people; they are random people that you briefly connect with; just instruments temporarily used for a purpose to deliver a message to another.
When I have been at my all time low, random people on occasion - in a setting totally unrelated and out of character in comparison to something going on in my life - will bring up a subject that again, has nothing to do with the environment or situation at hand - and somehow say something to me that is as if they know exactly what is going on in my head! I have been in awe at what total strangers have said to me - as if they were talking directly to my soul without them even realizing it.
It is both a bizzare and amazing thing at the same time. It brings about undescribable peace at our worst times.
The problem is, if you don't look for them you will totally miss the opportunity. So next time you are feeling that low, think about what the clerk in the convenience store just said...the coworker you normally never talk to...the little 5 year old neighbor that blurts out something innocent.
This has helped me get through the most awful times. I hope you will be aware if this ever happens to you. Glad to see you are talkative and doing better.
Hugs,
Garnet
Posted by G-man885858 on February 3, 2009, at 22:33:55
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 3, 2009, at 21:38:36
God bless you Garnet, I think YOU are an angel!
You are because you take the time out of your busy schedule to talk to me and comfort me. That takes a lot of strength and effort!My parents have raised me in a harshly atheist household. They did it to take away all my hope and belief that life can be a lot better than the misery that they gave me. They are manipulative, sadistic bullies. They were willing to stoop to ANY LOW to increase their suffocating grip on my life and happiness. They even look happy when I am at my lowest, most depressive points. They only had children because they needed scapegoats to blame for their own miserable, failed marriage.
Posted by G-man885858 on February 4, 2009, at 20:41:57
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 3, 2009, at 21:38:36
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!! YOU ARE ALL AMAZING PEOPLE, I AM SO THANKFUL TO ALL OF YOU!
Posted by Garnet71 on February 4, 2009, at 21:31:28
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 4, 2009, at 20:41:57
(((GMan)) - you are amazing too, and we are lucky to have you here. Keeep checking in!!!
Posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 1:11:21
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 4, 2009, at 20:41:57
Hi GMan,
I just wanted to dedicate this song to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZbiZxA9b5k
Maybe it will brighten your day?
Posted by G-man885858 on February 5, 2009, at 2:03:35
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 1:11:21
Thank you Garnet, I love Eddie Vedder! Really great song!
Posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 22:37:46
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 1:11:21
Hi GMan,
This one should reallytouch your heart..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9NkGdZ-N2E
I was really happy to find a bunch of talented college kids turned my favorite Lifehouse song into such a powerful play. It grows on you. If you dont' like it at first, watch it a few times in a row - and I guarantee it will touch your heart like it touched mine.
:)
Posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 23:13:20
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » garnet71, posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 22:37:46
This is the original version I was looking for:
http://www.ksbj.org/eblogs/afternoonShow/?p=86
The graphics are still fuzzy, but this is the one. Disregard the other link.
Posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 0:31:04
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by garnet71 on February 5, 2009, at 23:13:20
I once asked my father: would anyone care if I committed suicide? He said: Nobody would shed a single TEAR!
Posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 0:33:31
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 0:31:04
Was it arrogant of me to expect people to cry if I passed away?
Posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 0:47:25
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 0:31:04
Gman,
First-you are not a *product* of your parents
Second-What do YOU want out of life?
We are ALL unique, special creations; we all contribute to the universal mind. Yes, everyone from the bank teller, to the garbage man, to the CEO - all contribute to the aggregate humanity
Posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 20:06:43
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 0:47:25
I just want to live with some dignity..
Posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:11:55
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 6, 2009, at 20:06:43
> I just want to live with some dignity..
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Gman,
Do you think your parents robbed you of your dignity? If so, you can get it back.
Posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:26:52
In reply to Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on January 31, 2009, at 0:22:56
Hi GMan,
If you liked Eddie Veder, you might like this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YoUuwDZuW0&feature=related
Sometimes we dwell on living in our own prisons rather than trying to escape.
Posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:29:51
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:26:52
If we dwell in our own prisons, we miss the opportunities to escape....
Posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 14:19:05
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » garnet71, posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:29:51
Creed Rules!
Posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 14:46:47
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » garnet71, posted by garnet71 on February 6, 2009, at 22:29:51
By the way, I got my test results yesterday from my Adrenal Stress INdex. Here it is:
Cortisol = Low
DHEA = high
Testosterone = Low
Dihydrotestosterone = HighMy doctor wanted to give me licorice to treat the condition, but I've taken Licorice before and its awful - it feels like I drank 20 red bulls- heart palpitations, nervousness, etc.
What do yous think?
Posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 18:00:09
In reply to My test results, posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 14:46:47
> By the way, I got my test results yesterday from my Adrenal Stress INdex. Here it is:
>
> Cortisol = Low
> DHEA = high
> Testosterone = Low
> Dihydrotestosterone = High
>
> My doctor wanted to give me licorice to treat the condition, but I've taken Licorice before and its awful - it feels like I drank 20 red bulls- heart palpitations, nervousness, etc.
>
> What do yous think?
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Hey GMan,I don't have the answers to your questions, but I just wanted to suggest creating a seperate post for advice. Hopefully Bleauberry and some of the others familar with this topic will respond.
If I was in your shoes - I would not take the licorice, but instead, take the test results to an endochronologist for a second opinion.
Maybe the licorice would be helpful in small doses taken on a regular or short-term basis, and I am very confident about herbal or alternative treatments, but with your reaction - I don't see why you should take it.
Hopefully someone will come along with better knowledge, but until then, take good care of yourself!!
Posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 20:19:23
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 14:19:05
> Creed Rules!
-G-man
If you love Creed, then here's another one atcha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7WktLgz1lc&feature=related
Sorry a little Air Force bias there..lol. But my God, this man's voice gives me goosebumps throughout my entire body!
Can't think of a better way to decompress right now.
Posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 20:24:16
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 14:19:05
Okay, one more, can't resist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_iZ3NfwSU
Higher = above all the superficial bs
Posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 22:47:33
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!! » G-man885858, posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 20:24:16
I think this is their best song:
Posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 23:10:49
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by G-man885858 on February 7, 2009, at 22:47:33
> I think this is their best song:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEijnCAg2-8------------
I almost agree except I haven't taken the mental energy to figure out what that song signifies...all I know it's along the lines of one of those songs that makes me want to drive over 100 mph then abruptly stop to pull over to have sex on the side of the road..lol..don't know if I want to know the meaning...some things are better left unsaid...sorry, couldn't help but stating my mind at the moment..decompressing here.
Posted by G-man885858 on February 10, 2009, at 1:44:51
In reply to Re: Suicidal, please help!!, posted by garnet71 on February 7, 2009, at 23:10:49
Do u agree:
The only way a boy can ever become a man is to be beaten up by a gang of older bullies - the idea being that eventually the boy's tolerance gives in and he is FORCED to overcome his weakness and fight back.
Does that sound right to yous?
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