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Posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 13:22:43
Please post your responses to Deplin, my new hope for TRD.
Posted by Zyprexa on October 27, 2007, at 17:22:41
In reply to Who is doing well on Deplin?, posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 13:22:43
I took it for a month, and didn't notice a thing.
Posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 17:44:42
In reply to Re: Who is doing well on Deplin?, posted by Zyprexa on October 27, 2007, at 17:22:41
> I took it for a month, and didn't notice a thing.
Sorry. Damn, that's NOT what i wanted to hear!
Posted by Phillipa on October 27, 2007, at 20:02:17
In reply to Re: Who is doing well on Deplin?, posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 17:44:42
King seems a person with a lot of knowledge who used to post here is having great success with it and a friend of his too. Phillipa
Posted by Ron Hill on October 27, 2007, at 23:29:26
In reply to Who is doing well on Deplin?, posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 13:22:43
I've been taking Deplin (L-methylfolate) for the past six days and, so far I am enjoying a remarkable benefit in the tx of my bipolar depressive phase. It has completely eliminated my depression.
I am currently taking 15 mg/day of Deplin.
Will it last? Time will tell. But in the meantime, I'm enjoying life without depression.
http://www.deplin.com/
Click through all the links.-- Ron
Bipolar II with ultra rapid cycling (15 day cycle), and mild Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD)
600 mg/day Trileptal
200 mg/day Lamictal
875 mg/day Keppra
90 mg/day Nardil
15 mg/day Deplin
Posted by King of Nothing on October 28, 2007, at 9:32:04
In reply to Re: Who is doing well on Deplin? » King of Nothing, posted by Ron Hill on October 27, 2007, at 23:29:26
Great for you Ron!! I hope to join you soon.
Posted by stargazer2 on October 28, 2007, at 21:05:15
In reply to Who is doing well on Deplin?, posted by King of Nothing on October 27, 2007, at 13:22:43
Can you buy methylfolate still on-line. I have seen other methylfolate pills but they have other things in them, like B-12 and B-6. Also the dose of Methylfolate is not 7.5 mg, but 800 mcg.
Would this work as well as Deplin? How many pills would you have to take to equal the dose of Deplin? Would taking a product with B-12 and B-6 do any harm or could it be helpful?
I'll ask my doc for a script of Deplin if I can't find it on line but I wanted to get it without a prescription if possible. I spend too much on co-pays as it is and since it is a vitamin, my insurance may not even cover it yet. That's probably what will happen anyway...
Stargazer
Posted by Phillipa on October 28, 2007, at 22:26:05
In reply to Where can you buy L-methylfolate?, posted by stargazer2 on October 28, 2007, at 21:05:15
No it's a prescription even Dr. Bob redirected the thread back to meds from alternative. Evidently it works well with nardil . Phillipa
Posted by stargazer2 on October 28, 2007, at 23:20:12
In reply to Re: Where can you buy L-methylfolate? » stargazer2, posted by Phillipa on October 28, 2007, at 22:26:05
Deplin is the prescription but there is still (?) a limited supply of L-methylfolate available without a prescription. I wanted to try that first before getting a prescription from my pdoc. I'm sure my insurance will not cover it, it's too new.
Stargazer
Posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 10:39:57
In reply to Re: Where can you buy L-methylfolate?, posted by stargazer2 on October 28, 2007, at 23:20:12
> Deplin is the prescription but there is still (?) a limited supply of L-methylfolate available without a prescription. I wanted to try that first before getting a prescription from my pdoc. I'm sure my insurance will not cover it, it's too new.
>
> StargazerI just read that ONE Deplin is bioequivalent to taking SEVENTY-FIVE 800 mcg. folic acid pills!
Posted by stargazer2 on October 29, 2007, at 13:44:56
In reply to Re: Where can you buy L-methylfolate?, posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 10:39:57
Oh great and I hate to take pills. Someone else said they were taking 3.2 mg of L-methylfolate,I wonder how they get that amount if they are taking a pill that contains 800 mcg of Folate.
SG
Posted by Marty on October 29, 2007, at 13:58:03
In reply to Re: Where can you buy L-methylfolate?, posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 10:39:57
It's not because it doesn't work for some that it will not work for you buddy. Some people here are so resistant that they wouldn't feel better if they were to receive a 'Ron Jeremys Brain Transplantation' .. got my drift ? ;)What you're looking for probably work for LESS people than MORE. I'd say that if you have enough money to try it.. then do.
Don't be to Phillipian about it :D
If you try it, keep me posted plz.
I hope you'll feel better soon buddy.
Marty
Posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 15:04:17
In reply to Marty -) King of Nothing, posted by Marty on October 29, 2007, at 13:58:03
>
> It's not because it doesn't work for some that it will not work for you buddy. Some people here are so resistant that they wouldn't feel better if they were to receive a 'Ron Jeremys Brain Transplantation' .. got my drift ? ;)
>
> What you're looking for probably work for LESS people than MORE. I'd say that if you have enough money to try it.. then do.
>
> Don't be to Phillipian about it :D
>
> If you try it, keep me posted plz.
>
> I hope you'll feel better soon buddy.
> MartyMe too:) And be careful w/that Primose Oil...if your breasts enlarge and you start to get Bitchy stop immedietely! LOL
-King Long Dong
Posted by Marty on October 29, 2007, at 17:47:51
In reply to Re: Marty -) King of Nothing, posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 15:04:17
> Me too:) And be careful w/that Primose Oil...if your breasts enlarge and you start to get Bitchy stop immedietely! LOL
>
> -King Long Dong
LOL :P
Posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2007, at 19:50:30
In reply to Marty -) King of Nothing, posted by Marty on October 29, 2007, at 13:58:03
Marty that was funny. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2007, at 19:52:59
In reply to Re: Marty -) King of Nothing, posted by King of Nothing on October 29, 2007, at 15:04:17
Here we go again . Love Phillipa
Posted by KayeBaby on October 30, 2007, at 20:37:07
In reply to Re: Marty -) King of Nothing » King of Nothing, posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2007, at 19:52:59
l-methylfolate and Deplin are the same thing.
800mcg x 4= 3.2mg ??Is my math wrong? I suck at calculations.
Kaye
Posted by stargazer2 on October 31, 2007, at 8:35:19
In reply to Re: Marty -) King of Nothing, posted by KayeBaby on October 30, 2007, at 20:37:07
Kaye, you have to convert from microgram to milligrams first, so your calculation is not correct. I can't remember how to do this myself but someone here should be able to help.
SG
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 31, 2007, at 8:49:02
In reply to Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams), posted by stargazer2 on October 31, 2007, at 8:35:19
> Kaye, you have to convert from microgram to milligrams first, so your calculation is not correct. I can't remember how to do this myself but someone here should be able to help.
> SGmicro- prefix meaning one millionth, contracted to mc (or the Greek lower case mu)
mili- prefix meaning one thousandth, contracted to mmicro to mili: divide by 1000
mili to micro: multiply by 1000By the way, if anyone ever has a problem with unit conversions, the Google search window is also a unit conversion engine. Type in something like e.g. "3 miles in centimeters", and it will tell you how many there are. Natural language structure is fine.
Lar
Posted by stargazer2 on November 1, 2007, at 8:36:33
In reply to Re: Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams) » stargazer2, posted by Larry Hoover on October 31, 2007, at 8:49:02
Larry, so the question is how many 800 mcg pills equal 7.5 mg deplin..
If 7.5 mg = 7500 mcg, then you divide 7500 mcg by 800 mcg and get approx. 10.
Does anyone know if this is correct? I thought i read something like 70 pills of 800 mcg were necessary to equal 7.5 mg deplin.
I get 10. Can anyone verify this number?
SG
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 1, 2007, at 11:43:41
In reply to Re: Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams), posted by stargazer2 on November 1, 2007, at 8:36:33
> Larry, so the question is how many 800 mcg pills equal 7.5 mg deplin..
>
> If 7.5 mg = 7500 mcg, then you divide 7500 mcg by 800 mcg and get approx. 10.
>
> Does anyone know if this is correct? I thought i read something like 70 pills of 800 mcg were necessary to equal 7.5 mg deplin.
>
> I get 10. Can anyone verify this number?
>
> SGYou're doing that conversion properly, but I think the original comparison was of two different substances, also. Folate is not directly comparable to l-methylfolate, so that also enters into the comparison. By inference, folate supplementation gives approximately one seventh the yield of l-methylfolate? Thus, you would need (10 times) times (7 times) the amount of folate to yield the bioequivalent dose of 7.5 mg of preformed l-methylfolate.
Lar
Posted by Ron Hill on November 1, 2007, at 14:56:14
In reply to Re: Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams), posted by stargazer2 on November 1, 2007, at 8:36:33
i read something like 70 pills of 800 mcg were necessary to equal 7.5 mg deplin.
> I get 10. Can anyone verify this number?
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Star,See the bottom half of this web page:
http://www.deplin.com/DeplinFacts,VsFolicAcid-- Ron
Posted by KayeBaby on November 1, 2007, at 21:21:16
In reply to Re: Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams) » stargazer2, posted by Ron Hill on November 1, 2007, at 14:56:14
L-methylfolate (brand name Metafolin-what I am taking) is the same substance as Deplin. Folate is different-the less bioavailable form.
Kaye
Posted by stargazer2 on November 1, 2007, at 22:26:26
In reply to Re: Conversion of mcg(micrograms) to mg(milligrams), posted by KayeBaby on November 1, 2007, at 21:21:16
Kaye, I thought I read that metafolin was 800 mcg too, not the same as 7.5 mg of Deplin. How many pills of the Metafolin are you taking?
Stargazer
Posted by Phillipa on November 1, 2007, at 22:45:11
In reply to Metafolin dose different than Deplin/Kaye, posted by stargazer2 on November 1, 2007, at 22:26:26
This is getting confusing but the Deplin link says the facts. Haven't google the other but will. Phillipa
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